Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

vectra wrote: »

As high as Max or Bottas I reckon. That is pending the car provides the performance.

The AM would need a fair step up in performance from last year to have as good a chance of a win as Bottas or Max. But If Perez could sneak a win last year (with a lot of luck in terms of Mercedes messing up tyres) then even at the same relative performance, Vettel could sneak a win too. Even Gasley snuck a win in the AT, so most cars could win under the right circumstances.

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

As far as I'm aware, Philip Morris owns, or used to, the space on the Ferrari's. So to sponsor and put your logo on it, you buy the space off Morris as opposed to Ferrari.
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong

They are still big sponsors for them.

I actually wrote my thesis in college on subliminal branding in F1. Ferrari adopted a different red that came from Marlboro. I believe 2007 though, at Monaco, Ferrari changed the red.



It is a bit more burgundy (like Mugello last year, and why there is a bit of it on the car this year).

Frank Bullitt wrote: »

They are still big sponsors for them.

I actually wrote my thesis in college on subliminal branding in F1. Ferrari adopted a different red that came from Marlboro. I believe 2007 though, at Monaco, Ferrari changed the red.



It is a bit more burgundy (like Mugello last year, and why there is a bit of it on the car this year).

They’ve changed their red more than once for Marlboro. I’ve a distinct memory of Murray Walker welcoming a change (back to red) during the Schumacher era. The car had gradually turned an almost shade of orange during the season. Looked better on tv said Walker. The change to redder came after complaints from the tifosi (according to Walker). My impression was that the orange was at the behest of PM.

What’s up with MW anyway. I know it’s PM, but is that the reason it’s not always there. I’d almost say the green is so awful and jarring to drive attention.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

The AM would need a fair step up in performance from last year to have as good a chance of a win as Bottas or Max. But If Perez could sneak a win last year (with a lot of luck in terms of Mercedes messing up tyres) then even at the same relative performance, Vettel could sneak a win too. Even Gasley snuck a win in the AT, so most cars could win under the right circumstances.

I would put Vettel on a higher level than both perez and stroll, so I would say he has the ability to more than "sneak" in a win or two. Again I will say pending the performance of the car.

vectra wrote: »

I would put Vettel on a higher level than both perez and stroll, so I would say he has the ability to more than "sneak" in a win or two. Again I will say pending the performance of the car.

On historic performance he’s surely ahead of those lads. On recent form there isn’t much in it one way or the other. Depends if he can get the old form back or not.

Im liking the Aston Martin car and everything about the team at the minute to be honest.
Its the team that was Jordan and have retained the doing great things with small money all along.
They now have a 4 time world champion driver, good funding, a mercedes technical partnership and Aston Martin branding - Its a pretty strong situation they have placed themselves in over a short period from where the last owner was bankrupt. It would appear Laurence Stroll is not a Billionaire for nothing. Buying into Aston, Bringing Aston branding to F1 straight into a strong team and just adding value all around. It all looks like a master stroke. Aston safety car too introduced.
Hope they can do well.

My season prediction thread will be locked tonight, so if you want to take part, get your predictions in now.

I see Dive to Survive Season 1 is on Sky Documanteries from Monday the 15th from 7:30pm. I have seen the first season but it was kinda rushed through as was watching it on the Sister and Brother In laws TV while minding there dogs. So ye looking forward to watching it propaply and hopefully Sky will show Season 2 and 3 as well.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah. And if he reverses the form of the last few years. If he doesn’t then I’d expect there to be little in it between himself and Stroll.

I can't see any reason why he won't do well in a car that went relatively well last season that has a much better rear end setup than the Ferraris had, ( not sure how their new setup will work just yet. Which suits his driving style.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Ok. If you’re putting the last two and a half seasons of form down to the Ferrari not suiting him, that’s a bit of a stretch.

Maybe, Maybe not. But as I said to you many weeks ago. None of us know anything for certain until the season progresses.

The Williams looks better irl in my opinion.

Cars running in circles, nothing to learn really.

Jordan 199 wrote: »

The Alfa is looking lovely a pity the wheels are not white that would really make it stand out. The teams should be allowed to colour there wheels too. The Aston with green wheels maybe, Ferrari with red wheels, Albine with blue wheels and so on.
Alpha Tauris are white are they?