Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

caveat emptor · 10-03-2021 06:38PM

Vicxas wrote: »

Its inspirational to us all that he makes more than 10 times the average worker.

Yeah I'd imagine he's a role model for people as someone that they could aspire to emulate one day and earn that much. Never say never kinda thing. Reach for the stars. #zero-negativity

is_that_so · 10-03-2021 06:41PM

Arghus wrote: »

People were complaining about Varadker on here last year after he got over the initial few press conferences and then largely disappeared from view - aside from the odd interview or press appearance - and let NPHET become the face of the response to the response. The general opinion was that he was a clown that didn't know what he was doing - but it was one of those boards things that was partly about whoever happens to be in charge at any one moment is a clown and the alternative guy/gal is way better.

For the record, I truly don't like Varadker. I think he's cynical and self-serving and he has a lot of the media in Ireland in his back pocket. I wouldn't trust him as far I could throw him. I thought he was good enough at the very, very start of this - which was a surprise to me - but as time has gone, his antics leave a bad taste in my mouth.

I wouldn't rate MM a great deal either, but there's no doubt to me that it's tougher, in some ways, trying to marshal the government and the country through this period than it was during the first flush of this crisis.

Trying to manage how to re-open, managing the vaccine rollout, managing the expectations of people who are very, very tired and restless after a year of this - and dealing with coalition partners constantly trying to make themselves look good, often at your expense, in the media. You'd have to be a political genius to look well juggling all of that.

Last March/April was an extraordinary period and of course it wasn't easy to govern through that, but politically it was straightforward in a sense - people just wanted to be told what to do in the simplest possible terms, the opposition didn't exist, it didn't even enter into many people's heads that FG had basically been told by the electorate to leave office a few weeks previously. Simon Harris had the swiftest and most complete political rehabilitation of all time - literally just before that he'd been deliberately hidden away from view during the GE campaign, but he suddenly was a voice of authority with sky high approval figures. For a while, then people went back to calling him a fool again - until Donnelley took over and then Donnelley was the clown and people wondered whether Simon was going to come back.

There is also a big contrast in communications. Sure it was ad nauseum last year but it also came to us in ways that suited our circumstances. Since the new government that has turned into a shambles at times. One could point to the nature of coalition making it difficult but how that all occurs is driven from the top. Martin's approach grates a lot more. His forte is hand to hand combat in the Dail and debates. This comes across in his speeches as well as he is not a naturally good communicator. Unfortunately neither is the MoH. That compounds the problems they face yet they have not managed to address it.

FintanMcluskey · 10-03-2021 06:46PM

Boggerman12 wrote: »

#holdfirm and remember Paul Reid is on 420,000€ for this

In in this economic catastrophe with the rest of us.

Just like all those making the decisions that will directly effect the rest of our lives

igCorcaigh · 10-03-2021 06:46PM

#BREAKING

47 further deaths.

631 new confirmed cases.

@VirginMediaNews #Covid19Ireland

Gael23 · 10-03-2021 06:47PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

#BREAKING

47 further deaths.

631 new confirmed cases.

@VirginMediaNews #Covid19Ireland

No easing up with those numbers

harr · 10-03-2021 06:48PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

#BREAKING

47 further deaths.

631 new confirmed cases.

@VirginMediaNews #Covid19Ireland

Won’t be long till we are on par with U.K. with out death rate

igCorcaigh · 10-03-2021 06:49PM

harr wrote: »

Won’t be long till we are on par with U.K. with out death rate

Hardly?

cjyid · 10-03-2021 06:50PM

(14 of these deaths occurred in March, 18 occurred in February and 15 occurred in January.)

FlubberJones · 10-03-2021 06:54PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

#BREAKING

47 further deaths.

631 new confirmed cases.

@VirginMediaNews #Covid19Ireland

Well if these ****wits were able to get the vaccine out there would be a big difference... that is where the solutions is.
Not locking us down indefinitely...My hope is anyone with a brain tries to leave this rediculous country and head somewhere where a government aren't spineless whispering c*nts just damaging the people and the economy over and over

CIARAN_BOYLE · 10-03-2021 06:54PM

cjyid wrote: »

(14 of these deaths occurred in March, 18 occurred in February and 15 occurred in January.)

Its stupid how bad the reporting is for making decisions.

ShyMets · 10-03-2021 06:55PM

FlubberJones wrote: »

Well if these ****wits were able to get the vaccine out there would be a big difference... that is where the solutions is.
Not locking us down indefinitely...My hope is anyone with a brain tries to leave this rediculous country and head somewhere where a government aren't spineless whispering c*nts just damaging the people and the economy over and over

Another well thought out and reasoned post.

Well played Sir!

hynesie08 · 10-03-2021 06:56PM

FlubberJones wrote: »

Well if these ****wits were able to get the vaccine out there would be a big difference... that is where the solutions is.
Not locking us down indefinitely...My hope is anyone with a brain tries to leave this rediculous country and head somewhere where a government aren't spineless whispering c*nts just damaging the people and the economy over and over

They have been, 95% of vaccines are in arms within 7 days.

10-03-2021 06:56PM

Rest in Peace to the 47 who sadly passed away but you love to know how many of them actually died from Covid and not with Covid.They need to stop classing every death as covid related. Filling us with lies and people need to wake up to this

Cork2021 · 10-03-2021 06:56PM

Are they not announcing where these deaths are occurring?

Arghus · 10-03-2021 06:58PM

is_that_so wrote: »

There is also a big contrast in communications. Sure it was ad nauseum last year but it also came to us in ways that suited our circumstances. Since the new government that has turned into a shambles at times. One could point to the nature of coalition making it difficult but how that all occurs is driven from the top. Martin's approach grates a lot more. His forte is hand to hand combat in the Dail and debates. This comes across in his speeches as well as he is not a naturally good communicator. Unfortunately neither is the MoH. That compounds the problems they face yet they have not managed to address it.

I'd completely agree that LV is a better communicator than MM, but let's not forget that LV was pretty unpopular up until shít rapidly hit the fan last year.

I remember the first head to head debate between the two of them last year in the run up to the GE. Reading through the thread here at the time, boards' consensus opinion was that MM was the man and that LV was crap. So the recasting of LV as a communications guru is a fairly new phenomenon.

LV is politically in a pretty neat role. He can support the government when necessary or beneficial, drop hints that he disagrees when it looks good, claim credit when things right, escape the brunt of the flack when things go wrong.

Batattackrat · 10-03-2021 06:59PM

370 in hospital time to go to Level 3 at a minimum.

The media scare mongering has gone on two long.

We don't even know if these people were in for something else and caught it in hospital.

10-03-2021 06:59PM

Cork2021 wrote: »

Are they not announcing where these deaths are occurring?

Think they stopped that months ago.Could be wrong tho

blowitupref · 10-03-2021 07:01PM

7-day average in cases 490. Last Wednesday it was 623.

370 patients are hospitalised, 489 it was last Wednesday.

Storm 10 · 10-03-2021 07:01PM

Would the high numbers be a result of the recent protest in Dublin

suicide_circus · 10-03-2021 07:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Rest in Peace to the 47 who sadly passed away but you love to know how many of them actually died from Covid and not with Covid.They need to stop classing every death as covid related. Filling us with lies and people need to wake up to this

This will never be known

Tyrone212 · 10-03-2021 07:03PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Rest in Peace to the 47 who sadly passed away but you love to know how many of them actually died from Covid and not with Covid.They need to stop classing every death as covid related. Filling us with lies and people need to wake up to this

Perhaps the Doctors in the hospital could invite you in to determine who died of what and share your wealth of experience in the matter.

PowerToWait · 10-03-2021 07:04PM

Storm 10 wrote: »

Would the high numbers be a result of the recent protest in Dublin

Schools.

hynesie08 · 10-03-2021 07:05PM

Storm 10 wrote: »

Would the high numbers be a result of the recent protest in Dublin

What high numbers? They're down across the board compared to last Wednesday.

Storm 10 · 10-03-2021 07:05PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

Schools.

According to HSE today no outbreaks in schools

stephenjmcd · 10-03-2021 07:05PM

Gael23 wrote: »

No easing up with those numbers

No offence but its been explained numerous times regarding the weekly trends and how they progress. Lower earlier in the week, Wednesday gives a bump, holds steady usually Thursday Friday & repeat again the following week

SEPT 23 1989 · 10-03-2021 07:05PM

PowerToWait wrote: »

Schools.

I would say so unfortunately

BlondeBomb · 10-03-2021 07:05PM

Storm 10 wrote: »

Would the high numbers be a result of the recent protest in Dublin

What high numbers?

Monster249 · 10-03-2021 07:05PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Martin is a great debater. I don't think even his harshest critics would deny that. His general communication skills are poor, and his leadership skills don't look much better.

His leadership skills are akin to his chin, weak.

10-03-2021 07:06PM

Tyrone212 wrote: »

Perhaps the Doctors in the hospital could invite you in to determine who died of what and share your wealth of experience in the matter.

I know a woman in her 90s who passed away from natural causes last April but who's death was classed as covid on the death cert even tho she had a negative covid test 2 days before she passed away.Her family were not happy with this

Storm 10 · 10-03-2021 07:06PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

What high numbers? They're down across the board compared to last Wednesday.

I realise that but there almost double yesterday

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