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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #4472
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Stheno wrote: »
    Those are very vague, they are not quantified at all

    Yup

    Yet they will be used to not ease restrictions in any meaningful way

    Philip Nolan on Monday said 250 cases a day is moderate level of disease not low

    What low actually means who knows?

    We won't find out


  • #4473
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Eod100 wrote: »
    All of half a weeks supply so

    https://twitter.com/MichealMartinTD/status/1369591582375174144

    Martin not getting the positive response he thought he'd get on Twitter

    Any extra supply is welcome but it goes nowhere near making up for the shortfall in supplies


  • #4474
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    What happened to this massive ramp up in March we were meant to get?


  • #4475
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,464 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Hopefully we have vaccinated everyone before the autumn so. Would ideally be finished ahead of flu vaccination too.

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1369585106898350084

    Read it and it's very vague. The main question is over how long the vaccine offers protection. Its not something that can be answered either way as to if a booster is needed or not. It might not, its unknown at this stage.


  • #4476
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Tomás Ryan ISAG back on Claire Byrne radio, no questions on leaked emails on their questionable strategies and agenda driven approach?


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  • #4477
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,273 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Martin not getting the positive response he thought he'd get on Twitter

    Any extra supply is welcome but it goes nowhere near making up for the shortfall in supplies

    Yeah like, of course its better than nothing but drop in the ocean in the scheme of things. Guess he has to promote any efforts and success in getting extra doses.


  • #4478
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,464 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Of course and it is pro rate based on population tbf. Hopefully supply can significantly ramp up next quarter.

    Pfizer quite clearly proving they can deliver, bodes well for the 2 million expected from them in Q2. They appear very much on track


  • #4479
    Boggerman12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭Boggerman12


    Tomas neuroscience Ryan makes a reappearance on the Clare Byrne show.oh how we missed you not


  • #4480
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Eod100 wrote: »
    All of half a weeks supply so

    https://twitter.com/MichealMartinTD/status/1369591582375174144

    May as well not take them so


  • #4481
    washman3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    stefanovich wrote: »
    This is our money.

    He makes more than the Taoiseach and is doing an objectively bad job.

    He is HSE waste manifest. Why do they have so much power?


    But very important to remember that 'we are all in this together'.....:rolleyes::rolleyes:
    And to think that many,many people actually fall for this tripe.!!
    Even many educated people.:(


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  • #4482
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Martin not getting the positive response he thought he'd get on Twitter

    Any extra supply is welcome but it goes nowhere near making up for the shortfall in supplies
    If we had 500K a week coming in people would be complaining it wasn't being used fast enough. Let Twitter do what it will.


  • #4483
    Ferris_Bueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    Gael23 wrote: »
    So are you saying it stays at 5k?

    No I am guessing the 5k rule will be abolished on April 5th and we will be allowed to travel within our counties from then on.


  • #4484
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,389 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    It's all looking good for wet pubs open for August bank holiday weekend this summer.


  • #4485
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,464 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Martin not getting the positive response he thought he'd get on Twitter

    Any extra supply is welcome but it goes nowhere near making up for the shortfall in supplies

    It'll make up the Moderna gap though so chances are GPs won't see any reduction in supply after expecting 15% less. A big plus


  • #4486
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,273 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Read it and it's very vague. The main question is over how long the vaccine offers protection. Its not something that can be answered either way as to if a booster is needed or not. It might not, its unknown at this stage.

    That and new variants I guess.


  • #4487
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Vicxas wrote: »
    What happened to this massive ramp up in March we were meant to get?

    Astra Zenaca came and told us we were going to get half of our vaccines of the month on 31 March.

    I really doubt we will get 300k vacciens on 31 March.

    That said things have ramped up compared to February.


  • #4488
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,273 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Pfizer quite clearly proving they can deliver, bodes well for the 2 million expected from them in Q2. They appear very much on track

    Hopefully that materializes on time without issues.


  • #4489
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,743 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    stefanovich wrote: »
    This is our money.

    He makes more than the Taoiseach and is doing an objectively bad job.

    He is HSE waste manifest. Why do they have so much power?

    The HSE is loaded with RCC tripe, and FF is the RCC party. All of our society's problems trace to that criminal organization. Of course, Reid, whose sole qualification for the job was that he had a business 'background' of some sort, is incompetent. First rate people hire first-rate people. 2d rate organizations hire third rate people. Well, who hired Reid?

    He is not a medical professional. Not even one of the sea of 'medical' practitioners with their laughable certificates that infest our society. And, as you have observed, the HSE can't run a bath let alone a vaccine rollout. The UK ensured a vaccine center within 10 miles of anyone in the country, UK and Israel had their military run the rollouts and are doing worlds better than, I predict, Ireland will ever do.

    HSE has highest administrative load of any health service in Europe. Fire them all and no one would notice.


  • #4490
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,464 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Hopefully that materializes on time without issues.

    Pfizer have been the ones who've proven their ability to deliver


  • #4491
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,273 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Pfizer have been the ones who've proven their ability to deliver

    Yup and fingers cross it continues.


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  • #4492
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Igotadose wrote: »
    The HSE is loaded with RCC tripe, and FF is the RCC party. All of our society's problems trace to that criminal organization. Of course, Reid, whose sole qualification for the job was that he had a business 'background' of some sort, is incompetent. First rate people hire first-rate people. 2d rate organizations hire third rate people. Well, who hired Reid?

    He is not a medical professional. Not even one of the sea of 'medical' practitioners with their laughable certificates that infest our society. And, as you have observed, the HSE can't run a bath let alone a vaccine rollout. The UK ensured a vaccine center within 10 miles of anyone in the country, UK and Israel had their military run the rollouts and are doing worlds better than, I predict, Ireland will ever do.

    HSE has highest administrative load of any health service in Europe. Fire them all and no one would notice.


    100% and they answer problem by appointing more advisors/relatives and setting up more task forces, who essentially cannot roll out a bath mat if it was two feet long..they are all of the same ilk you now find skulking in Davy's, sheepishly hiding and riding the public in plain sight...


  • #4493
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    If the vaccine suppliers were painters Pfizer is the one with the team who gives you a date, shows up as promised and does very clean work. Moderna is a one man band who does good work but can't say when he'll get there and AZ is run by a brickie who has a cousin and some mates who do the painting!


  • #4494
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,292 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Igotadose wrote: »
    The HSE is loaded with RCC tripe, and FF is the RCC party.

    Sorry but what is RCC?


  • #4495
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,389 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Part of our issue is we are rushing the vaccines out ASAP and to be fair the HSE is getting the vials out and jabs in arms.

    For countries relying only on the EU provided supply we have been ahead of the EU average since the very start

    We are basically promising to jab people before the stock has actually arrived, so you get cancelled appointments, deliveries etc. So if we stockpiled a little bit, i.e. a 7 day buffer there would be howls of protest but everyone gets 7 days notice of appointment and thats 100% assured.

    So its probably better the go with the current HSE scrappy startup model as it provides lowest latency. Once we hit the big supplies in April/May the tables with turn and the HSE will really have to get it game together to be able to keep up.


  • #4496
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,145 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    is_that_so wrote: »
    If the vaccine suppliers were painters Pfizer is the one with the team who gives you a date, shows up as promised and does very clean work. Moderna is a one man band who does good work but can't say when he'll get there and AZ is run by a brickie who has a cousin and some mates who do the painting!






    People do forget the az vaccine is 4 quid a dose vs 20 a dose from Pfizer


    If a painter charged 5 times the rate he would be out of business


  • #4497
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Where do you find out all this information on current restrictions in other countries? I would love to see some comparisons, if there was a site that compiled that kind of information. It would make me feel a bit better if we weren;t some of the only on the planet under such incredibly strict rules, it really is starting to feel like we are under lock and key with no way out for a long time, I know it's just anecdotes but of the people abroad I speak to in the US and Eastern Europe, it really feels like they have a lot more freedom and quality of life. My uncle in New York which is notorious for it's COVID limitations of citizen's lives but they can have some people to their home, can eat out at cafes now too, don't think they've limits on funerals or anything like. And I always see memes from people in New York talking about how hard life is over there during the pandemic..they have no idea how good it is compared to here how would they cope in Ireland ..it feels so hopeless


    There’s quite a few on here that live around the world or that have close family around the world, maybe start a new thread for people to post their experiences give you an idea.

    Luckily I don’t live in Ireland, but all my family do. They say they are getting it very tough....I’ll not use the words they used..but it’s very grim.

    I have had it very very easy over the last year, at worst the equivalent to Ireland L2/L3 for about 6 weeks April/May last year and varying from semi-normal to currently 95% normal since. I have had to ask my wife to be careful what she posts on social media as I think it’s unhelpful and insensitive, in saying that my mother says I’m extremely lucky to be living a normal life.

    Hopefully it will be resolved within the next 6 months but I still think there will become restrictions for some time. Just have to hang in there.


  • #4498
    OwenM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭OwenM


    stefanovich wrote: »
    This is our money.

    He makes more than the Taoiseach and is doing an objectively bad job.

    He is HSE waste manifest. Why do they have so much power?

    When you divest power you also divest responsibility, HSE are in charge so they get the blame, not the DOH or the minister. This is going on for decades all over government, quangos, NGO's etc. They are not all bad though - HIQA comes to mind.


  • #4499
    washman3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Igotadose wrote: »
    The HSE is loaded with RCC tripe, and FF is the RCC party. All of our society's problems trace to that criminal organization. Of course, Reid, whose sole qualification for the job was that he had a business 'background' of some sort, is incompetent. First rate people hire first-rate people. 2d rate organizations hire third rate people. Well, who hired Reid?

    He is not a medical professional. Not even one of the sea of 'medical' practitioners with their laughable certificates that infest our society. And, as you have observed, the HSE can't run a bath let alone a vaccine rollout. The UK ensured a vaccine center within 10 miles of anyone in the country, UK and Israel had their military run the rollouts and are doing worlds better than, I predict, Ireland will ever do.

    HSE has highest administrative load of any health service in Europe. Fire them all and no one would notice.


    But,but,but what about the Unions....;)
    We must try our best to satisfy 'the unions'....:mad:


  • #4500
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,768 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Tomás Ryan ISAG back on Claire Byrne radio, no questions on leaked emails on their questionable strategies and agenda driven approach?

    Jesus Claire Byrne loves that fella


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  • #4501
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,392 ✭✭✭brickster69


    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1369606968483123201

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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