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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #4442
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Dr. Em wrote: »
    You can find the weekly EU/EEA numbers here: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

    Ireland is currently 10 out of 30 for cases (good), and 22 out of 30 for deaths (bad).

    Portugal has lower case numbers than Ireland but is a good case for comparison since 1) there was a spike in cases there in early January, 2) case numbers are decreasing, and 3) the UK variant is also present. The restrictions seem very similar to Ireland.
    Greece and Romania are close in case numbers, but are on an upward trend.
    Norway is way lower than Ireland, but is also on an upward trend and Oslo is under broadly similar restrictions to Ireland's level 4. These restrictions are due to be applied to all of Norway if the case numbers don't go down.

    Where do you find out all this information on current restrictions in other countries? I would love to see some comparisons, if there was a site that compiled that kind of information. It would make me feel a bit better if we weren;t some of the only on the planet under such incredibly strict rules, it really is starting to feel like we are under lock and key with no way out for a long time, I know it's just anecdotes but of the people abroad I speak to in the US and Eastern Europe, it really feels like they have a lot more freedom and quality of life. My uncle in New York which is notorious for it's COVID limitations of citizen's lives but they can have some people to their home, can eat out at cafes now too, don't think they've limits on funerals or anything like. And I always see memes from people in New York talking about how hard life is over there during the pandemic..they have no idea how good it is compared to here how would they cope in Ireland ..it feels so hopeless


  • #4443
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,159 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Dr. Em wrote: »
    You can find the weekly EU/EEA numbers here: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

    That Data on us is from last Tuesday. 14-day case notification rate per 100 000 here is 161.3 now and we have a 7 day rate 70.1.

    Death rate would much lower also.


  • #4444
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,919 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    I'm not saying it's a good enough reason to keep it, I'm saying that's part of the reason why it's 5k, it's an arbitrary number to keep people local with the rent evictions ban built in as with 5km it's level 5, your in lockdown which means nobody getting evicted.

    An amendment in legislation can of course be made without Dail approval.

    Unfortunately the house we're renting is getting sold so our lease is up in June, also because of the 5 KM restriction we can't view other houses either until the restriction is lifted, so we're stuck each way.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #4445
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,700 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Unfortunately the house we're renting is getting sold so our lease is up in June, also because of the 5 KM restriction we can't view other houses either until the restriction is lifted, so we're stuck each way.

    Would moving not be considered essential business and therefore exempt from the 5km limit? If it isn't then that's ridiculous.


  • #4446
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,223 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    bodhrandude wrote:
    Unfortunately the house we're renting is getting sold so our lease is up in June, also because of the 5 KM restriction we can't view other houses either until the restriction is lifted, so we're stuck each way.

    Don't mind that, go looking, it's essential to you, try explain to the gardai if stopped, best of luck


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  • #4447
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭prunudo


    According to the news earlier, MM is surprised the archbishops have asked their parishioners to lobby their TD's to ease restrictions around mass going.
    Is he that shielded from the general public and reality of lockdowns that he doesn't understand people are missing the simple things in life. Something as small as going to mass or receiving communion means an awful lot to many people.
    While not doubting the tough decisions the government have to make, the fact that they are interacting with people every day, surely their judgments must be clouded on what it is like for people locked away with no social contact bar supermarket trips for months on end.


  • #4448
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Unfortunately the house we're renting is getting sold so our lease is up in June, also because of the 5 KM restriction we can't view other houses either until the restriction is lifted, so we're stuck each way.

    Moving house is considered essential.

    We moved in January, and went through checkpoints to view the house and when moving. They can't stop you from putting a roof over your head.


  • #4449
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Unfortunately the house we're renting is getting sold so our lease is up in June, also because of the 5 KM restriction we can't view other houses either until the restriction is lifted, so we're stuck each way.

    No issues viewing places. 5km limit is for exercise- you can go beyond for essential reasons. The rental market (in Dublin)!is quite strange at this time with city centre apartments dropping rents but rents increasing outside Dublin.


  • #4450
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    UK cost of contact tracing is £22bn, MPs understandably not happy about it.
    There is no evidence to show that the government’s £22bn test-and-trace programme to combat Covid-19 in England contributed to a reduction in coronavirus infection levels, parliament’s spending watchdog has concluded.


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/no-evidence-22bn-test-and-trace-scheme-cut-covid-rates-in-england-say-mps


  • #4451
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,105 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Any easing in April is going to be next to nothing

    Maybe construction open

    Can't see non essential retail open or even services like hairdressers

    Government and NPHET were going to be cautious enough not to mind having the built in excuse of not having enough vulnerable people vaccinated

    Interesting one will be the 5km

    Will they change to countywide?

    I doubt it

    Going to be July at the earliest for intercounty the way this is going
    I’d say it will go county travel, last year it went from 2km to 10 then 20.


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  • #4452
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Any easing in April is going to be next to nothing

    Maybe construction open

    Can't see non essential retail open or even services like hairdressers

    Government and NPHET were going to be cautious enough not to mind having the built in excuse of not having enough vulnerable people vaccinated

    Interesting one will be the 5km

    Will they change to countywide?

    I doubt it

    Going to be July at the earliest for intercounty the way this is going
    Construction is at the top of the list and falling numbers suggest that will happen. Non-essential retail is another one but maybe later in the month. Outdoor activities too should get the green light.
    The 5K is such an easy one to do, it'll seem like we've been given freedom but it does depend on what NPHET conclude. It's safe to say that our government will not do anything that looks different to their advice. At the same time they have a populace who just want this to be over very soon and who will not hold the line much beyond Easter.


  • #4453
    Ferris_Bueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,684 ✭✭✭Ferris_Bueller


    The plan says at Level 4 it will be county wide travel but you cannot travel outside of your county until Level 2, which even if all went well that might not be until June or July. I don't think they will introduce a 10k or 20k rule, there would be no point and it would mean ditching the plan that they made as recently as three weeks ago.

    I know the difference between Level 4 and Level 5 is minor really, but if we went into Level 4 in April it would at least have the ball rolling and mean maybe Level 3 for May if things go well. If we stay in Level 5, or move to a made up 4.5 in April, then you are talking probably June until things like retail, hairdressers can open and July until you can leave your county.


  • #4454
    newuser99999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭newuser99999


    prunudo wrote: »
    According to the news earlier, MM is surprised the archbishops have asked their parishioners to lobby their TD's to ease restrictions around mass going.
    Is he that shielded from the general public and reality of lockdowns that he doesn't understand people are missing the simple things in life. Something as small as going to mass or receiving communion means an awful lot to many people.
    While not doubting the tough decisions the government have to make, the fact that they are interacting with people every day, surely their judgments must be clouded on what it is like for people locked away with no social contact bar supermarket trips for months on end.

    It’s fine for him still drawing a huge pay cheque still gets to go down to Cork at the weekends to see his family no problem.


  • #4455
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    newuser99999 wrote: »
    It’s fine for him still drawing a huge pay cheque still gets to go down to Cork at the weekends to see his family no problem.
    Running the country usually means you have to get to different parts of the country from time to time.


  • #4456
    newuser99999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭newuser99999


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Running the country usually means you have to get to different parts of the country from time to time.

    Plenty of people doing just as important jobs as he is haven’t seen their family since Christmas


  • #4457
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    newuser99999 wrote: »
    Plenty of people doing just as important jobs as he is haven’t seen their family since Christmas

    Like who?


  • #4458
    newuser99999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭newuser99999


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Like who?

    Know plenty of nurses who haven’t


  • #4459
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    newuser99999 wrote: »
    It’s fine for him still drawing a huge pay cheque still gets to go down to Cork at the weekends to see his family no problem.

    I would have his job for all the tea in China.


  • #4460
    Dr. Em
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭Dr. Em


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Where do you find out all this information on current restrictions in other countries? I would love to see some comparisons, if there was a site that compiled that kind of information. It would make me feel a bit better if we weren;t some of the only on the planet under such incredibly strict rules, it really is starting to feel like we are under lock and key with no way out for a long time, I know it's just anecdotes but of the people abroad I speak to in the US and Eastern Europe, it really feels like they have a lot more freedom and quality of life. My uncle in New York which is notorious for it's COVID limitations of citizen's lives but they can have some people to their home, can eat out at cafes now too, don't think they've limits on funerals or anything like. And I always see memes from people in New York talking about how hard life is over there during the pandemic..they have no idea how good it is compared to here how would they cope in Ireland ..it feels so hopeless

    Reopen EU is supposed to be one central site where you can find information on all the restrictions: https://reopen.europa.eu/en
    The design is a bit clunky and if you want more detailed information each country's own government website is the best source - if you can read the language, or if they provide an English page.


  • #4461
    Dr. Em
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭Dr. Em


    blowitupref wrote: »
    That Data on us is from last Tuesday. 14-day case notification rate per 100 000 here is 161.3 now and we have a 7 day rate 70.1.

    Death rate would much lower also.

    The data for all the countries relates to Mon-Tues last week. It is a once-a-week snapshot. You can check back on Thursday for this week's updated numbers.


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  • #4462
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    newuser99999 wrote: »
    Know plenty of nurses who haven’t
    Nurses are allowed to travel between home and work regardless of the distance.


  • #4463
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    I’ve said all along the only approach the authorities here had to this was to lockdown, reopen briefly and then lock down again.
    We were told repeatedly we had to ‘hold firm’, ‘ we’re all in this together’ until the vaccine arrives. Yet here we are and our supplies are poor, UK and US are steaming ahead. Austria, Denmark and other European countries are thinking outside the box to try and get extra supplies. Ireland? Stay home, lockdown and keep the free money coming in.
    Except it isn’t free, it will all have to be paid back and the EU fund isn’t giving us any help either due to our GDP figures despite the GNP being badly affected.
    Anyone with a brain cell in government should be looking at ways to get the economy reopened this summer, vaccinate the vulnerable, and keep the rest ticking over until supply comes in. We were almost fully reopened last summer with no vaccines and all was fine for months. Travel corridors should be formed within EU and Uk to people with a vaccine or negative PCR to help our economy and tourist industry.
    For April, the 5k should be immediately scrapped and non essential retail reopened in some form. Enough hiding under the bed trying to ‘stay safe’. The amount of young, non covid related deaths I’ve heard of anecdotally in the last few weeks will be far more of a concern if it transpires into national figures.


  • #4464
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,273 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Hopefully we have vaccinated everyone before the autumn so. Would ideally be finished ahead of flu vaccination too.

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1369585106898350084


  • #4465
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,105 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Ferris_Bueller wrote: »
    The plan says at Level 4 it will be county wide travel but you cannot travel outside of your county until Level 2, which even if all went well that might not be until June or July. I don't think they will introduce a 10k or 20k rule, there would be no point and it would mean ditching the plan that they made as recently as three weeks ago.

    I know the difference between Level 4 and Level 5 is minor really, but if we went into Level 4 in April it would at least have the ball rolling and mean maybe Level 3 for May if things go well. If we stay in Level 5, or move to a made up 4.5 in April, then you are talking probably June until things like retail, hairdressers can open and July until you can leave your county.

    So are you saying it stays at 5k?


  • #4466
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Its going to be a VERY slow opening up,doubt we will even fully open up this summer

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1369589314309529604?s=19


  • #4467
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,273 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    All of half a weeks supply so

    https://twitter.com/MichealMartinTD/status/1369591582375174144


  • #4468
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Eod100 wrote: »
    All of half a weeks supply so

    https://twitter.com/MichealMartinTD/status/1369591582375174144

    Every little helps. 23,000 more people protected.


  • #4469
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    giveitholly wrote: »
    Its going to be a VERY slow opening up,doubt we will even fully open up this summer

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1369589314309529604?s=19

    Those are very vague, they are not quantified at all


  • #4470
    stefanovich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    normanoffside wrote: »
    I see Paul Reid earned €420k last year

    https://twitter.com/breakingnewsie/status/1369349652370268162

    This is our money.

    He makes more than the Taoiseach and is doing an objectively bad job.

    He is HSE waste manifest. Why do they have so much power?


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  • #4471
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,273 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Every little helps. 23,000 more people protected.

    Of course and it is pro rate based on population tbf. Hopefully supply can significantly ramp up next quarter.


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