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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #4412
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    The vaccination basket is really the only game in town to put your eggs into though. We have min 10% given at least a first dose already, and those people are the most at risk or the most exposed. While productions drops have been announced they are still miles up on what we had in jan so we should easily expect more than double that by the end of may. And thats a very very conservative number. With minimum 1 million at risk people vaccinated and if case numbers continue to drop as they are i cant see summer being anywhere near as bas as its been for the last 2 months.

    Hope you are right,but I reckon this government are bricking it about opening anything up after what happened after xmas


  • #4413
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,159 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Hospital operations update

    In hospital 371 (decrease of 21 from last night)
    In ICU 93 (decrease of 8 but sadly 4 deaths in the last 24 hours)


  • #4414
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    newuser99999 wrote: »
    The FDA don’t accept results from trials of other countries.

    Unless its in africa for drugs that the africans will never have access to which is in contravention of helsinki..gotta love the yanks..unless they are handing out the NDA they wont pass it.


  • #4415
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Any easing in April is going to be next to nothing

    Maybe construction open

    Can't see non essential retail open or even services like hairdressers

    Government and NPHET were going to be cautious enough not to mind having the built in excuse of not having enough vulnerable people vaccinated

    Interesting one will be the 5km

    Will they change to countywide?

    I doubt it

    Going to be July at the earliest for intercounty the way this is going


  • #4416
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,464 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Any easing in April is going to be next to nothing

    Maybe construction open

    Can't see non essential retail open or even services like hairdressers

    Government and NPHET were going to be cautious enough not to mind having the built in excuse of not having enough vulnerable people vaccinated

    Interesting one will be the 5km

    Will they change to countywide?

    I doubt it

    Going to be July at the earliest for intercounty the way this is going

    We've already been told over the last few weeks what's going to be looked at. Anything outside of it just isn't in scope until early May probably, 4 weeks from April's easing.

    As has been said a few times, 5km is linked to the legislation stopping evictions. Much like last year it'll probably go from 5km to county to country over time. I would expect to county in April.

    As for the vulnerable vacinations, they're pretty much where they were expected to be at this stage given the use of Pfizer who are extremely efficient with deliveries


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  • #4417
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    On the 18th of May last year we had 376(55 in icu) 43 days later we had on the 30th of June we had 19(13 in icu) it slows down now as that equates to a drop of 8 people per day in total and 1 per day in icu..
    the drops seem lager the last few days, so I’m hoping we’ll be looking at June 30th hospital figures come the 15th of April.
    At the moment we’re going discharges are at approx 22 per day roughly, I can’t see that pace of discharge going as it did slow once we hit a similar figure last year.


  • #4418
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    We've already been told what's going to be looked at. Anything outside of it just isn't in scope until early May probably, 4 weeks from April's easing.

    As has been said a few times, 5km is linked to the legislation stopping evictions. Much like last year it'll probably go from 5km to county to country over time.

    That is not a good reason to keep the 5km, due to incompetence. If they need to they can rewrite whatever poorly thought through law got them into this scenario. They've pushed through enough rushed laws in the last year to show us its possible.


  • #4419
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,464 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    AdamD wrote: »
    That is not a good reason to keep the 5km, due to incompetence. If they need to they can rewrite whatever poorly thought through law got them into this scenario. They've pushed through enough rushed laws in the last year to show us its possible.

    I'm not saying it's a good enough reason to keep it, I'm saying that's part of the reason why it's 5k, it's an arbitrary number to keep people local with the rent evictions ban built in as with 5km it's level 5, your in lockdown which means nobody getting evicted.

    An amendment in legislation can of course be made without Dail approval.


  • #4420
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    We've already been told over the last few weeks what's going to be looked at. Anything outside of it just isn't in scope until early May probably, 4 weeks from April's easing.

    As has been said a few times, 5km is linked to the legislation stopping evictions. Much like last year it'll probably go from 5km to county to country over time. I would expect to county in April.

    As for the vulnerable vacinations, they're pretty much where they were expected to be at this stage given the use of Pfizer who are extremely efficient with deliveries

    Yes we'll see

    I think NPHET won't want the extra movement associated with going to county in April

    I think that will be a measure for May but I'd like to be wrong


  • #4421
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Yes we'll see

    I think NPHET won't want the extra movement associated with going to county in April

    I think that will be a measure for May but I'd like to be wrong

    As an example Cork! Biggest county large city, some very large towns, second lowest incidence rate in the country and only 12 patients in our hospitals and decreasing slowly but surely.
    County wide travel is a must for a counties like Cork/Kerry etc with low incidence rates.
    I’m not a fan of the beach but fûck me I’d love some fresh sea air now!


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  • #4422
    Akabusi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    Really now is the time to open up construction and click and collect. Stick to the plans on the schools and see where we are at in Mid April.


  • #4423
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,273 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Yes we'll see

    I think NPHET won't want the extra movement associated with going to county in April

    I think that will be a measure for May but I'd like to be wrong

    Yeah think it will only go to 10 or 20 km but could be wrong. Within county would be great but not sure it will happen in one go unfortunately.


  • #4424
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    As an example Cork! Biggest county large city, some very large towns, second lowest incidence rate in the country and only 12 patients in our hospitals and decreasing slowly but surely.
    County wide travel is a must for a counties like Cork/Kerry etc with low incidence rates.
    I’m not a fan of the beach but fûck me I’d love some fresh sea air now!

    Yes it would be great

    Cork is doing very well at the moment

    However I can't see the government going for some counties having different restrictions to others

    All in this together and all that jazz


  • #4425
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,368 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    TimeToShine wrote: »
    It's mostly medical and pharmaceuticals devices rather than the medication itself.

    No, that's med tech. Long before med tech we had pharmaceutical manufacturing here. Here in Cork alone, off the top of my head, we have Pfizer, GSK, Hovione, J&J, Lilly, MSD and Novartis. I'm sure I will be told not all are manufacturing but most are. And that's just in Cork metro area.


  • #4426
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Yeah think it will only go to 10 or 20 km but could be wrong. Within county would be great but not sure it will happen in one go unfortunately.

    Yeah that could be interesting

    Don't think we ever made the 20km limit last year?

    Pushing it to 10km or 20km still won't make NPHET happy but might be something the government would push for seeing as the 5km rule is hated


  • #4427
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Yes it would be great

    Cork is doing very well at the moment

    However I can't see the government going for some counties having different restrictions to others

    All in this together and all that jazz

    Will be some jazz festival in Cork when things open up.


  • #4428
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,464 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Yeah think it will only go to 10 or 20 km but could be wrong. Within county would be great but not sure it will happen in one go unfortunately.

    Doubtful, 10 or 20km won't make much difference. The provision for level 4 is county travel. Only level with a travel limit is level 5


  • #4429
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Will be some jazz festival in Cork when things open up.

    God I miss the jazz fest :(


  • #4430
    h2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭h2005


    We must be one of the lower cases per capita in Europe now. What are the restrictions like in countries with similar numbers?


  • #4431
    Natterjack from Kerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Very hard to see vaccine targets being met in Q2

    NPHET then will use that failure to not ease restrictions on the rest of society

    Its not that they will 'use' it as such. The consequence of the vaccine delivery delays will require it. NPHET are not to blame for production problems in the vaccine production facilities.


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  • #4432
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,663 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Will be some jazz festival in Cork when things open up.

    Not a fan of Jazz but **** me i'd listen to anything now if it meant sitting in a pub with a fresh pint in front of me


  • #4433
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Neither is the rest of Irish society who will pay for production problems in the vaccine production facilities

    Everything will be pushed back which will mean more time not seeing friends, family, partners etc or not having a somewhat normal life akin to last summer


  • #4434
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Not a fan of Jazz but **** me i'd listen to anything now if it meant sitting in a pub with a fresh pint in front of me

    I love a bit Archie Chokes and the Cold Sweats I do.

    Nice!


  • #4435
    eastie17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭eastie17


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Neither is the rest of Irish society who will pay for production problems in the vaccine production facilities

    Everything will be pushed back which will mean more time not seeing friends, family, partners etc or not having a somewhat normal life akin to last summer

    That opinion makes no sense. We had a relatively normal summer last year with no vaccine. Even by pessimistic numbers we will have about a million people vaccinated by late June this year. We have already completed our most vulnerable.


  • #4436
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    We'll see

    We didn't have the variant last year

    The government and NPHET are going to be far more cautious this year and last year we had a slow painful reopening

    This year could be even more laboured especially if the vaccine schedule is well behind the June projections


  • #4437
    frank8211
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭frank8211


    An outbreak of Coronavirus at a direct provision centre in Rosslare Port Lodge has been causing considerable disquiet among residents. Now, they are asking the HSE to transfer those who have been infected to an off-site facility.

    Residents at a Direct Provision Centre in Rosslare Harbour, Co Wexford, are asking the HSE to transfer people infected with coronavirus to off-site self-isolation facilities. They also want close-contacts of those who have been infected to be moved.

    The request stems from concerns among certain residents that public health guidelines for self-isolation have not been appropriately followed at the direct provision centre at Rosslare Port Lodge.

    Residents say that more than five people have contracted the virus at the centre. Texts sent to residents by the centre manager, which have been shown to Hot Press say “in-house restrictions” will be in place until March 18, and that the centre is close to containing the outbreak.

    Residents insist, however, that in-house restrictions do not follow public-health guidelines for isolation.

    Another blanket-testing was carried out at the centre yesterday.


  • #4438
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Construction continues on billionaire Dermot Desmond's south Dublin home despite COVID restrictions

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/construction-continues-billionaire-dermot-desmonds-19972785?fbclid=IwAR3F6wK7VjY_oeDrKSeR9vDYs48_xv1bVqSkBsUusVSeGNRb3he41J84Mdk


    This is why fines should be proportionate to income


  • #4439
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    ShineOn7 wrote: »

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/construction-continues-billionaire-dermot-desmonds-19972785?fbclid=IwAR3F6wK7VjY_oeDrKSeR9vDYs48_xv1bVqSkBsUusVSeGNRb3he41J84Mdk


    This is why fines should be proportionate to income

    So maybe a 20 million fine? Confiscate his house?


  • #4440
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    So maybe a 20 million fine? Confiscate his house?


    I'm saying he went ahead with it because the fine to him is nothing


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  • #4441
    Dr. Em
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭Dr. Em


    h2005 wrote: »
    We must be one of the lower cases per capita in Europe now. What are the restrictions like in countries with similar numbers?


    You can find the weekly EU/EEA numbers here: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

    Ireland is currently 10 out of 30 for cases (good), and 22 out of 30 for deaths (bad).

    Portugal has lower case numbers than Ireland but is a good case for comparison since 1) there was a spike in cases there in early January, 2) case numbers are decreasing, and 3) the UK variant is also present. The restrictions seem very similar to Ireland.
    Greece and Romania are close in case numbers, but are on an upward trend.
    Norway is way lower than Ireland, but is also on an upward trend and Oslo is under broadly similar restrictions to Ireland's level 4. These restrictions are due to be applied to all of Norway if the case numbers don't go down.


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