Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

I think we might just see a sub 3.00% by the end of the week.

Deleted User wrote: »

Italy will not be produce any vaccines as part of this deal until well into Q3 by which time the market will be flooded

Agreed. The decisions have been made and we are essentially stuck on it now.

The cards have been dealt. Let the chips fall as they may.

big syke wrote: »

Positive Swabs
414

Positivity Rate
3.36%

Swabs processed
12,330

As the kids say, "dat positivity doe eye emoji"

caveat emptor wrote: »

Paschal Donohoe being asked why can't we find vaccine supply outside of the existing eu procurement like other Eu countries.

Basically replied "lets see how successful those attempts will be"

At least they are trying. Blaming supply is nauseating while not trying to source more supply.

https://twitter.com/sputnikvaccine/status/1369024087171956743?s=20

but its the answer to the question


that's set to start producing in July


no one is getting extra supply from anywhere currently

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Hopefully it can be paired with another Tuesday drop in hospital numbers later

Currently at 397 and 95 in ICU.

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah god forbid someone showed some forethought and did this sooner. We might be in a better position. Waiting for glacial EU approval and procurement has left us well behind.

they bought a load of vaccines, from the front runners


they didn't deliver


what makes you think this will be any different


there is no order book, the russians can't produce it in the numbers needed to just do their population

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

By which time the market will be flooded if all vaccines are delivered as scheduled. That increasingly looks like a big if.....

Not really. There's a whole world out there waiting! That will be the next phase of the EU plan.

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah god forbid someone showed some forethought and did this sooner. We might be in a better position. Waiting for glacial EU approval and procurement has left us well behind.

No good approving them after other countries have filled their order book.

how exactly would you propose circumventing the process - the biggest manufacturing companies in the world are struggling to fulfill their order books - they all use the same manufacturing components - we'll likely see continuation to struggle to fulfill orders this year.

US is getting orders through as it has prioritized components and manufacturing for covid vaccines over everything - makes sense but may cause shortfalls in other products.

The is no incremental supply to secure - you can license the manufacturing like Italy but they will need to learn the process then secure supply for the critical components (or borrow them from other locally manufactured products) but that won't bring incremental supply on any quicker.

Realistically the quickest path in terms of supply is the support the companies that are already producing - Pfizer / Moderna / Novavax / J&J / AZ
these will be the ones to free up supply at least in US / Europe and Japan.

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

By which time the market will be flooded if all vaccines are delivered as scheduled. That increasingly looks like a big if.....

Ya, considering everything is slipping, the potential of booster vaccines or annual top ups and others needing them, seems stupid to not be trying to get as much supply as possible no matter when we get it

Nice to see the numbers fall under 400 but quite a lot of deaths today, I'd say some of these are denotifications. RIP to the 30 dead.

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Cavan Monaghan and Donegal all reporting zero cases.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1369339801338535936?s=21

I'm sure vaccines are part of that but it also makes a big difference that the North have actually bothered with a proper lockdown this time around.

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Cavan Monaghan and Donegal all reporting zero cases.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1369339801338535936?s=21

The only time I've been in favour of Ulster saying no. Good to see. Its been a long slog up here since September.

caveat emptor wrote: »

They (Italy) will manufacture it themselves. We have quite a big Pharma industry.

The deal was signed with Adienne Srl, the Italian subsidiary of a Swiss-based pharmaceutical company, and Kirill Dmitriev, CEO of the Russian Direct Investment Fund. Production of a planned 10 million doses this year is set to launch in July.

Looks like it's a Swiss company manufacturing it and not "Italy". You make it sound like it's the Italian government manufacturing it.