Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

LillyIsland wrote: »

I want to go to a garden center to get trees for my garden but it's about 30km away, is there any good excuse I could use if I'm stopped? Especially if someone else is with me in the car?

Horticulture is deemed one of the essential services and given the bare root planting season will be over before the restrictions are eased you shouldn't get any bother. Unless you can arrange for the nursery to delivery which would save any confrontation.
In saying all that, I haven't seen a checkpoint mid week around here for a long time.

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

How many checkpoints have you come across lately?

Depends on where you are. I had three last week within my 5km.

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Depends on where you are. I had three last week within my 5km.

i travel a good bit because of work and though Garda have given up.

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

How many checkpoints have you come across lately?

Loads of them all around Dublin every day. They seem to focus on the routes into the city centre for some reason, even though there's nothing to be going in there for unless you are working

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Last 9 Sunday's

January 10th - 4842
January 17th - 3231
January 24th - 1910
January 31st - 1414
February 7th - 1024
February 14th - 788
February 21st - 679
February 28th - 612
March 7th - 525

Decreases of :
33%
40%
26%
28%
23%
27%
10%
14%


Should get us below one hundred cases by end of May or so ?

Mike3549 wrote: »

Thats in theory, in reality i know somebody who quit his/her part time job (through agency, less less than 400 pw) and went straight onto €350 PUP, when it should be €203 pw JB with up to 9 week disqualification for leaving work voluntarily.

So you know someone but don't know if they are a man or a woman?

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Won't the all the School years returning and other things restarting like Construction stagnate the drop?

Yes exactly, but with vaccinations ramping up we should abandon our obsession with daily case nos and focus on hospital admissions.

Daily cases should just be reviewed for categories who have been vaccinated ie frontline healthcare workers, nursing home people, over 80s etc.

We could be reporting 700 cases a day in May and it may not matter a fvck.

brickster69 wrote: »

The Mrs has family over there. They have had enough, no option but get on with it. They only received 2 payments of 600 Euros of the government and awaiting on 4 more to come though they are owed.

wow, the weekly figures make for much more pleasant viewing

Whatever you say about Level 5, it works.

€1.5 billion per month. Cases down by 90% (from about 46,000 to 3,500) in two months. €3 billion.

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Whatever you say about Level 5, it works.

€1.5 billion per month. Cases down by 90% (from about 46,000 to 3,500) in two months. €3 billion.

It does work but would likely work just as well with some of the more ludicrous restrictions not applied. Also, if we actually enforced the restrictions, a level 3 would likely be more than enough to quickly reduce the numbers.

Other countries have had shorter and far less severe lockdowns than us, yet we still win the prize for having the most nursing home deaths per capita in Europe... despite having the longest and strictest lockdowns.

How did other countries manage to protect their elderly and vulnerable citizens better than we did with shorter & less severe lockdowns?
Because the nay sayers will always blame the monitory here who don’t follow the rules, but the reality is that there will always be a minority cohort in every country who didn’t follow the rules either.
So with this in mind, how did they achieve better results than we did?

I mean yeah, we can gloat and pat ourselves on the back that it got the case numbers down. It came at a monumental social and economic cost that we will suffer for, for years to come, but it would have been worth it if it stopped hospital acquired infections and prevented deaths in our nursing homes.
But it didn’t do that. It ripped through those settings for the last year and only started to taper off in the last few weeks as the effects of the vaccine began to take hold. And that’s why it begs the question of how other countries managed to protect these vulnerable citizens better than we did, with less restrictions.
Protecting these elderly and vulnerable people was the whole point of these lockdowns in the first place.

Each lockdown is less effective than the last. Each time it takes longer for the cases to come back down, and there is a bigger surge when things reopen because people are so desperate for human contact and a taste of normality.
It was never supposed to be a long term solution for months on end, it’s completely unsustainable.

There is absolutely no accountability from the government for any of this, instead they just push the responsibility & blame back on the public and that’s what annoys me.
We held up our end of the bargain, we have suffered through the strictest and longest lockdown in Europe and the 4th strictest in the world, only coming in behind countries that are dictatorships (!!!!).
And yet despite all this hardship and sacrifice, we are doing no better (and in some cases a lot worse) than countries with far more balanced and measured approaches to managing the virus.

Nobody is Ireland has required a permit to go outside to exercise.

As for deaths, Ireland actually counted the deaths in the community setting. Many countries were not able to adequately count their deaths and did not include deaths outside a hospital setting. Comparing deaths, case numbers, etc. is not actually comparing like with like. The label may be the same but the surveillance of and counting of every country is different. Furthermore, I do not think Ireland was the worst across the calendar year but then the January wave may have fcked that utterly? Still, I've seen the claim made many times we had the worst rate of deaths per capita and not sure where the source of that is from?

blackcard wrote: »

Ireland has the 30th highest number of deaths per million of countries in Europe

Which speaks for itself as a tribute to our medical personnel, NPHET, and our governments. People have to recognise that they sacrifices they made have allowed other to live. And take that as a tribute to themselves.