When will it all end?

Charles Babbage · 07-03-2021 01:52AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Where did you get a million a month from? Who said they could get to a million a month?

Of course they will get to a million a month, the question is can they reach 1.2 or 1.3 million. They did most of million flu vaccines last November.

Micky 32 · 07-03-2021 01:54AM

https://twitter.com/michealmartintd/status/1368192267257778190?s=21

“Good news. The vaccines are having a significant impact on mortality and serious illness.”

The begining of the end.;)

Diarmuid · 07-03-2021 07:18AM

Charles Babbage wrote: »

Of course they will get to a million a month, the question is can they reach 1.2 or 1.3 million. They did most of million flu vaccines last November.

No they didn't. 1 million winter flu vaccines were administered between September and November, And that's a vaccine that didn't need any special handling. And there's doubts over that 1m number

jackryan34 · 07-03-2021 09:37AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

“Good news. The vaccines are having a significant impact on mortality and serious illness.”

The begining of the end.;)

Any evidence in Ireland to support that claim?

Micky 32 · 07-03-2021 11:15AM

jackryan34 wrote: »

Any evidence in Ireland to support that claim?

Nothing published yet, i’m sure the evidence will emerge soon. You’re hardly suggesting MM, prof Horgan, NEPHET, HSE and the likes are all making this up are you? They obviously have some info on this. I better listen to you because you’re an insignificant random internet poster who just ‘joined up’. :rolleyes:

I think there are more variants on this forum than any virus can mutate into :pac:

They don’t announce these things unless there’s something in it. If they are lying my advice to you is to fill out the government complaints card and send it in.

There’s something going on, it’s being widely talked about.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/health/vaccine-starting-to-make-an-impact-as-very-severe-drop-in-covid-19-cases-linked-to-nursing-homes-reported-last-week-40132066.html

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN2AP2NO

Once again, when will it all end? Soon

ujjjjjjjjj · 07-03-2021 01:14PM

jackryan34 wrote: »

Any evidence in Ireland to support that claim?

Plenty of evidence in the UK and Israel are working very well and the HSE saying it now too.....actual data evidence takes a while to compile but it doesn't take a massive leap of logic to use the UK and Israeli data to support things.

Micky 32 · 07-03-2021 01:35PM

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Plenty of evidence in the UK and Israel are working very well and the HSE saying it now too.....actual data evidence takes a while to compile but it doesn't take a massive leap of logic to use the UK and Israeli data to support things.

As another poster mentioned you’re wasting your time. Some will argue that black is white just to try and make themselves relevent or whatever their agendas are. From what i’m seeing there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind ( and i’m a sceptical person)and from my own research and interest in the subject the vaccines do work. That’s good enough for me and this is without doubt the begining of the end. Life will find it’s way back.

ujjjjjjjjj · 07-03-2021 01:45PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

As another poster mentioned you’re wasting your time. Some will argue that black is white just to try and make themselves relevent or whatever their agendas are. From what i’m seeing there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind ( and i’m a sceptical person)and from my own research and interest the vaccines do work. That’s good enough for me and this is without doubt the begining of the end. Life will find it’s way back.

Fair point, I just can't understand the glass half empty approach in relation to vaccines. Like you I have checked out out data coming from Israel and the UK and it is incredibly positive.

This is good news folks and a clear start of the end of restrictions. Can't help but feel there are two groups of people now supporting any type of restrictions once a certain vaccination point has been reached, those being neurotic hypochondriacs (who I have sympathy for as the government has scared the bejaysus out of people) and the more disturbing brigade who because they are okay are reveling in the misery out there.......kinda person who feels better because they are in a better situation than those around them......

Bizarre world.

Micky 32 · 07-03-2021 01:49PM

:pac:

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Fair point, I just can't understand the glass half empty approach in relation to vaccines. Like you I have checked out out data coming from Israel and the UK and it is incredibly positive.

This is good news folks and a clear start of the end of restrictions. Can't help but feel there are two groups of people now supporting any type of restrictions once a certain vaccination point has been reached, those being neurotic hypochondriacs (who I have sympathy for as the government has scared the bejaysus out of people) and the more disturbing brigade who because they are okay are reveling in the misery out there.......kinda person who feels better because they are in a better situation than those around them......

Bizarre world.

I have found that die hard treehuggers would love the restrictions to carry on indefinately because they think the lockdowns are saving the world especially with less travel etc. You should see the morons patting covid on the back (“ Well done Covid 19”) on social media platforms like Facebook etc it’s pathetic . Maybe they should think about the people who have died worlwide because of this pandemic before they pat covid on the back.

It’s not my scene but some people It seems have issues watching lads going off to ‘Lanza’ for a piss up for some reason. It could be because they weren’t invited though:pac:

Micky 32 · 07-03-2021 01:50PM

https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1368269971340529668?s=21

Plumbthedepths · 07-03-2021 01:51PM

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Fair point, I just can't understand the glass half empty approach in relation to vaccines. Like you I have checked out out data coming from Israel and the UK and it is incredibly positive.

This is good news folks and a clear start of the end of restrictions. Can't help but feel there are two groups of people now supporting any type of restrictions once a certain vaccination point has been reached, those being neurotic hypochondriacs (who I have sympathy for as the government has scared the bejaysus out of people) and the more disturbing brigade who because they are okay are reveling in the misery out there.......kinda person who feels better because they are in a better situation than those around them......

Bizarre world.

Some people just want to watch the world burn.........sad and weird individuals who want to drag everyone down into their depths of misery.

ujjjjjjjjj · 07-03-2021 01:53PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

I have found that die hard treehuggers would love the restrictions to carry on indefinately because they think the lockdowns are saving the world especially with less travel etc. You should see the morons patting covid on the back on social media platforms like Facebook etc it’s pathetic . Maybe they should think about the people who have died worlwide because of this pandemic.

Wow my brain hadn't even stooped to comprehend the nastiness of that lot......suppose history should teach us all that people can just be evil.

Won't be going near their sordid little minds.......thanks for the heads up though.

KanyeSouthEast · 07-03-2021 02:02PM

The anti Lanzarote and Canary Islands slant from the land of a thousand welcomes is utterly baffling. It’s become a by word for some sort of weird anti travel group that’s emerged in the country. Utterly ridiculous. By the way Lanzarote is a beautiful island great weather great cycling great swimming great walking great value for money. Can’t wait to go back out there and get away from this bull****. By the way the biggest piss ups I’ve seen on holidays have been the odd time I’ve had some form of “staycation”. Horrible term horrible experience.

Samsonsmasher · 07-03-2021 02:30PM

Today once again I have travelled by bus beyond my 5km to meet friends for a kickaround a few cans and meet with a few girls for a picnic in the sunshine in the Phoenix Park.
The place is packed and it's wonderful to see.
Last summer it was the same.
Earlier I walked through the city and got a coffee at the lovely little French cafe near the gate of Dublin Castle.
The whole city is a forlorn ghost town.
Deeply depressing and sad.
I am sitting at the Wellington Monument right now at only feet away are a couple wearing masks.
I joked earlier with a family sanitize the monument when they are finished.
However I think this couple would actually do it if I told them with a straight face.
What has become of our beautiful capital city and our beautiful country?

Micky 32 · 07-03-2021 02:36PM

Great to see:

“”ISRAEL TOOK ANOTHER step towards post-pandemic normalcy today, opening restaurants, bars and cafes to vaccinated “green pass” holders, with about 40% of the population fully inoculated against the coronavirus.

“We are coming to life,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared, as he cut into a pastry at a Jerusalem cafe, according to a video posted on Facebook.

Israel, which launched its vaccination campaign in December, has given the recommended two jabs of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine to more than 3.7 million of its roughly nine million people.

Nearly five million have received one shot.“”

S_D · 07-03-2021 03:26PM

Well said and so true. It’s mad what the whole situation has done to many people. I can see every type of person below in my friends and family and it’s frightening to see.

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

Fair point, I just can't understand the glass half empty approach in relation to vaccines. Like you I have checked out out data coming from Israel and the UK and it is incredibly positive.

This is good news folks and a clear start of the end of restrictions. Can't help but feel there are two groups of people now supporting any type of restrictions once a certain vaccination point has been reached, those being neurotic hypochondriacs (who I have sympathy for as the government has scared the bejaysus out of people) and the more disturbing brigade who because they are okay are reveling in the misery out there.......kinda person who feels better because they are in a better situation than those around them......

Bizarre world.

jackryan34 · 07-03-2021 04:16PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Great to see:

“”ISRAEL TOOK ANOTHER step towards post-pandemic normalcy today, opening restaurants, bars and cafes to vaccinated “green pass” holders, with about 40% of the population fully inoculated against the coronavirus.

“We are coming to life,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared, as he cut into a pastry at a Jerusalem cafe, according to a video posted on Facebook.

Israel, which launched its vaccination campaign in December, has given the recommended two jabs of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine to more than 3.7 million of its roughly nine million people.

Nearly five million have received one shot.“”

Be careful what you wish for Micky, seriously
you seem like a good lad, post alot of positive stuff here, you've good intentions and seem a good person

When you don't take the vaccination in Israel , your life is basically over.

There is a media blackout in Israel right now, its a circus over in there with the vaccine roll out.

Israel are not a country we can relate to, post away about the UK and similar countries to us ,but extremists countries like Israel be wary on that data

All i'm saying on the subject before i'm banned

Micky 32 · 07-03-2021 04:32PM

jackryan34 wrote: »

Be careful what you wish for Micky, seriously
you seem like a good lad, post alot of positive stuff here, you've good intentions and seem a good person

Aww, thanks for all the lovely compliments. It’s what keeps us boardsie’s together in these awful times, you’re very good.

:D :pac:

HansKroenke · 07-03-2021 06:28PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/michealmartintd/status/1368192267257778190?s=21

“Good news. The vaccines are having a significant impact on mortality and serious illness.”

The begining of the end.;)

The UK timeline for reopening isn't just optimistic, it is realistic. Outside of supply issues with the vaccine, there are no serious issues arising which will delay full reopening of everything once the numbers are hit with vaccines.

15 weeks or 105 days from tomorrow for everything in the UK to be eased. We cannot be too far behind them for obvious reasons, namely regulatory arbitrage.

ypres5 · 07-03-2021 07:22PM

HansKroenke wrote: »

The UK timeline for reopening isn't just optimistic, it is realistic. Outside of supply issues with the vaccine, there are no serious issues arising which will delay full reopening of everything once the numbers are hit with vaccines.

15 weeks or 105 days from tomorrow for everything in the UK to be eased. We cannot be too far behind them for obvious reasons, namely regulatory arbitrage.

the difference between us being hot on the uks heels in reopening depends on whether or not micheals balls drop in the next few months. otherwise expect to see 'new variants' being bandied about a lot

Hellrazer · 07-03-2021 07:26PM

ypres5 wrote: »

the difference between us being hot on the uks heels in reopening depends on whether or not micheals balls drop in the next few months. otherwise expect to see 'new variants' being bandied about a lot

Strange that the UK variant isn't that big an issue in the UK!!!

07-03-2021 07:32PM

We failed to hit 100k vaccines for the last 2 weeks and have lowered our target to 80-something for next week. Meanwhile the UK will bang out 500k in a day sometimes. We're very, very far behind them.

HansKroenke · 07-03-2021 07:37PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We failed to hit 100k vaccines for the last 2 weeks and have lowered our target to 80-something for next week. Meanwhile the UK will bang out 500k in a day sometimes. We're very, very far behind them.

If we hit 1m per month for April and May, as is projected, we'll have half the country vaccinated. Come June and July, we'll be there. Looking at how the UK is progressing as compared to its timeline, I have no reason not to be optimistic at this stage that we'll be roaring back to normal come the August Bank Holiday.

thebiglad · 07-03-2021 07:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

We failed to hit 100k vaccines for the last 2 weeks and have lowered our target to 80-something for next week. Meanwhile the UK will bang out 500k in a day sometimes. We're very, very far behind them.

You have to look at relative populations - if we did 500k per day we'd be done in a week - its only over 18's after all.

UK is at 40% of 1st jabs and there numbers are falling off a cliff - we need the J&J approved (next week I think) and then up the numbers being vaccinated - we will hit 40% quick enough and then if numbers follow UK the government and NPHET will not be able to keep lockdown (except of course for the new variant excuse)...

Hellrazer · 07-03-2021 07:44PM

I think its 2.2 million J&J vaccines are supposed to be allocated to Ireland before the end of March.

That would be a game changer if they were all delivered...actually it would probably be game over for Nphet.

El_Duderino 09 · 07-03-2021 07:50PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

Strange that the UK variant isn't that big an issue in the UK!!!

It isn’t?

The uk is in full lockdown since Christmas. They’re beginning to loosen restrictions now. But I think not would be impossible to make the case that the uk variant, or any other variant, isn’t that big an issue in the uk.

Bit cynical · 07-03-2021 07:53PM

thebiglad wrote: »

You have to look at relative populations - if we did 500k per day we'd be done in a week - its only over 18's after all.

UK is at 40% of 1st jabs and there numbers are falling off a cliff - we need the J&J approved (next week I think) and then up the numbers being vaccinated - we will hit 40% quick enough and then if numbers follow UK the government and NPHET will not be able to keep lockdown (except of course for the new variant excuse)...

It is good that we are next to a country that has broken free of the EU. If the UK was as slow as Ireland and other EU countries (except Hungary) then by the time a significant proportion were vaccinated summer would be here and it would not be clear whether it was the vaccine or better weather keeping the numbers down.

This would lead to restrictions being reimposed in the Autumn "just to be safe" and then low numbers being attributed to those restrictions rather than the vaccines. And so on.

07-03-2021 07:54PM

HansKroenke wrote: »

If we hit 1m per month for April and May, as is projected, we'll have half the country vaccinated. Come June and July, we'll be there. Looking at how the UK is progressing as compared to its timeline, I have no reason not to be optimistic at this stage that we'll be roaring back to normal come the August Bank Holiday.

Where is that projection?
I've seen nonsense about "infrastructure" to be capable of giving out that many shots but we've consistently gotten fewer doses than expected every week. What's to suggest things are going to suddenly start going more smoothly?
And 2m injections would be about a quarter of the population vaccinated, since it's 2 shots.

The government are being both ****e about procuring vaccines and overly cautious about their effectiveness. The UK's reopening schedule is unambitious given their progress with the vaccines but it gives them a chance to under-promise and over-deliver.
Our shower of useless ****s will use any excuse to not open up and keep their foot on the brakes. If we could actually get the vaccines rolled out in a timely manner then they would have no cover to do it.

With the seasonality seen last year and most over 75s vaccinated by the end of April there is little reason to not be fully re-opened by mid-to-late June. But some arseholes will focus on case numbers once deaths plummet and use that as justification.

Elessar · 07-03-2021 07:55PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

I think its 2.2 million J&J vaccines are supposed to be allocated to Ireland before the end of March.

That would be a game changer if they were all delivered...actually it would probably be game over for Nphet.

Sorry to burst that bubble but it's 2.2m in total this year and from the Journal:

"If everything with supply chains and coordination here on the ground goes to plan Ireland should receive up to 150,000 doses of the vaccine per month in April, May and June."

We'll still be relying, in the majority, on the Pfizer vaccine to get the vast majority of people done for the next while afaik.

Hellrazer · 07-03-2021 07:58PM

Elessar wrote: »

Sorry to burst that bubble but it's 2.2m in total this year and from the Journal:

"If everything with supply chains and coordination here on the ground goes to plan Ireland should receive up to 150,000 doses of the vaccine per month in April, May and June."

We'll still be relying, in the majority, on the Pfizer vaccine to get the vast majority of people done for the next while afaik.

https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2021/0301/1199970-johnson-and-johnson-covid-19-vaccine/

This article says

200 million J&J vaccines have been promised before the end of March to the EU and Ireland is set to receive 2.2 million doses

That's a pain if its only 150k per month.

When will it all end?

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