When will it all end?

Scotty # · 06-03-2021 01:38PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

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https://twitter.com/coronavirusgoo1/status/1365793360242479107?s=21

You've now resorted to posting tweets from unaccredited nobody's posting unsourced claims on vaccine study's. Is this an attempt to help you case?

Micky 32 · 06-03-2021 01:40PM

Scotty # wrote: »

You've now resorted to posting tweets from unaccredited nobody's posting unsourced claims on vaccine study's. Is this an attempt to help you case?

No because you’re an anti vaxxer who chooses to ignore and dismiss something you don’t like. I’ll remind you of your misleading post last night? It was pointed out to you with evidence of the vaccines working. Do you want me to quote it again?

Micky 32 · 06-03-2021 01:41PM

corkonion wrote: »

As our current vaccines are a two dose requirement and after a little more than two months we have just reached 500,000 doses, so 250,000 people, we are far from nearing the end, at this rate we will fully vaccinate circa 1.25 million people a year.

You do realise the vaccine program will significantly ramp up in the coming months? We could reach a million a month vaccinations.

Plumbthedepths · 06-03-2021 01:43PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

No because you’re an anti vaxxer who chooses to ignore and dismiss something you don’t like. I’ll remind you of your misleading post last night? It was pointed out to you with evidence of the vaccines working. Do you want me to quote it again?

Why waste your time? Clearly the person you are responding to has an agenda and anything you post or link no matter the source will be dismissed. Just ignore them , as they aren't worth the effort.

Micky 32 · 06-03-2021 01:45PM

markodaly wrote: »

In fairness, you have been posting the same type of stuff for about a year now.

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So what? Some of your posts are nothing to be proud of. WUM kinda stuff is all you post nothing constructive from what i can see.

Micky 32 · 06-03-2021 01:46PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Why waste your time? Clearly the person you are responding to has an agenda and anything you post or link no matter the source will be dismissed. Just ignore them , as they aren't worth the effort.

Yes you are right. On the ignore list.

Micky 32 · 06-03-2021 02:03PM

Good to see this, just that little nudge towards the end of this sh** show:

https://twitter.com/laurahogantv/status/1368166616488435713?s=21

Scotty # · 06-03-2021 02:03PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

No because you’re an anti vaxxer who chooses to ignore and dismiss something you don’t like.

Ah Micky, I'm simply asking you to show me why you're so convinced the vaccines are the silver bullet you think they are. Nothing more. You can't do it so I'll bow out of the thread here. I honestly hope you are right and I'm wrong. Honestly.

And on the anti vax thing...

Micky 32 · 06-03-2021 02:09PM

Scotty # wrote: »

Ah Micky, I'm simply asking you to show me why you're so convinced the vaccines are the silver bullet you think they are. Nothing more. You can't do it so I'll bow out of the thread here. I honestly hope you are right and I'm wrong. Honestly.

And on the anti vax thing...

Posting a photo with no proof of where it came from?

. Seriously though if you had the vaccine fair play to you..

I have done a lot of research on the vaccines. They won’t eradicate the virus in the short term and maybe with us for eternity but I’m confident the vaccines will get our lives back on track. Pandemics don’t last forever they are short lived even without a vaccine. The vaccine will speed that immunity process up.

growleaves · 06-03-2021 06:00PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Posting a photo with no proof of where it came from? . Seriously though if you had the vaccine fair play to you..

I have done a lot of research on the vaccines. They won’t eradicate the virus in the short term and maybe with us for eternity but I’m confident the vaccines will get our lives back on track. Pandemics don’t last forever they are short lived even without a vaccine. The vaccine will speed that immunity process up.

Yes, except the restrictions did not impose themselves nor were they imposed by 'the virus'.

Despite that people talk as if it were an objective matter, we were put into lockdown by people and can only be taken out by people.

When someone starts up with "The vaccine isn't a silver bullet, guys" that is already an indication that there are people who aim to continue the restrictions.

xhomelezz · 06-03-2021 07:50PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

That's a bit rich coming from someone who walks around all day assuming their sick because the man on the telly said so.

Bullshít as always..but entertaining:D

Charles Babbage · 06-03-2021 11:22PM

growleaves wrote: »

When someone starts up with "The vaccine isn't a silver bullet, guys" that is already an indication that there are people who aim to continue the restrictions.

There are people who are uncertain whether some restrictions will still be required.
In no sense is that their aim.

But in reality the vaccines have worked out extremely well, apart from Astrazeneca telling lies about their deliveries.

ujjjjjjjjj · 06-03-2021 11:27PM

Forget what has happened to date but anyone who says we should be keeping any legal restrictions in place (health advice can be doled out) after vaccinations is just off the wall, in fact utterly insane considering the damage being done by lockdown and restrictions.

Once the vaccines are complete we have done our best and we get on with things, we can't go on like this and it has turned so many people into neurotic hypochondriacs scared of their own shadow.

appledrop · 06-03-2021 11:33PM

I'm sick and tired this week of Stephen Donnelly harping on all the time about delays in Astra Zeneca vaccine and blaming the slow rollout of vaccine on this.

HELLO STEPHEN fact check for you we are not using that vaccine for anyone over 70 so no that doesn't explain absolute incompetence of HSE in still not having over 85's vaccanted never mind over 70's.

Its all bull**** and no one in media is calling him out on it and it's doing my head in!

ujjjjjjjjj · 06-03-2021 11:52PM

appledrop wrote: »

I'm sick and tired this week of Stephen Donnelly harping on all the time about delays in Astra Zeneca vaccine and blaming the slow rollout of vaccine on this.

HELLO STEPHEN fact check for you we are not using that vaccine for anyone over 70 so no that doesn't explain absolute incompetence of HSE in still not having over 85's vaccanted never mind over 70's.

Its all bull**** and no one in media is calling him out on it and it's doing my head in!

Agree but the 'supply' excuse is an easy fallback.

Reality is the Irish government wanted to look good in front of the EU and play the we trust the EU card (especially in light of Brexit) and the EU have made a total and utter horlicks outta it....and Donnelly at al bury their heads and know they have the perfect excuse now to fallback on.....

If they gave one single sh1t about the myriad of people whose lives financially, mentally and emotionally have been destroyed by their lockdown restrictions they would have moved heaven and earth to buy vaccines outside of the EU agreement just like many other EU countries have. Any money they would have had to pay over the odds would have been far outweighed by the savings getting things open faster.....but they don't give a sh1te and every month their salary falls into their account and life goes on in their insulated little bubble.

Dickie10 · 07-03-2021 12:03AM

anyone wanna give a guess on pubs reopen? will they do it at same time as hotels so there plenty of choice and spread people out even at 50% capacity until full vaccine rollout? also seems an awful fear or dismissal of the likes of nightclubs opening? cant see why if were at a point where gyms , leisure centres, cinemas are open by then whats to fear in nightclubs if pubs are also open? surely risk of people that attend will be very small/miniscule 17-35 years old are very low risk. seems like pure dismissal of them opening. cant see an arguement against once june/july comes and thinking all else is open

RGS · 07-03-2021 12:20AM

Dickie10 wrote: »

anyone wanna give a guess on pubs reopen? will they do it at same time as hotels so there plenty of choice and spread people out even at 50% capacity until full vaccine rollout? also seems an awful fear or dismissal of the likes of nightclubs opening? cant see why if were at a point where gyms , leisure centres, cinemas are open by then whats to fear in nightclubs if pubs are also open? surely risk of people that attend will be very small/miniscule 17-35 years old are very low risk. seems like pure dismissal of them opening. cant see an arguement against once june/july comes and thinking all else is open

Cant see wet pubs opening even with reduced capacity before Sept and probably shut for December as the variant will be vaccine immune.

El_Duderino 09 · 07-03-2021 12:21AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

You do realise the vaccine program will significantly ramp up in the coming months? We could reach a million a month vaccinations.

Where did you get a million a month from? Who said they could get to a million a month?

El_Duderino 09 · 07-03-2021 12:24AM

Dickie10 wrote: »

anyone wanna give a guess on pubs reopen? will they do it at same time as hotels so there plenty of choice and spread people out even at 50% capacity until full vaccine rollout? also seems an awful fear or dismissal of the likes of nightclubs opening? cant see why if were at a point where gyms , leisure centres, cinemas are open by then whats to fear in nightclubs if pubs are also open? surely risk of people that attend will be very small/miniscule 17-35 years old are very low risk. seems like pure dismissal of them opening. cant see an arguement against once june/july comes and thinking all else is open

You can’t see a difference between a gym and a nightclub in terms of virus transmission? Seriously, or was that just a brain-fart?

HBC08 · 07-03-2021 12:24AM

corkonion wrote: »

As our current vaccines are a two dose requirement and after a little more than two months we have just reached 500,000 doses, so 250,000 people, we are far from nearing the end, at this rate we will fully vaccinate circa 1.25 million people a year.

Yes,except we won't be going at this rate will we?
You think we'll be vaccinating the same numbers in April and May we were doing in January?

Micky 32 · 07-03-2021 12:26AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Where did you get a million a month from? Who said they could get to a million a month?

Old news…are you not able to keep up? With all your waffling i thought you’d at least know this.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-donnelly-hoping-to-reach-250-000-vaccinations-a-week-as-programme-ramps-up-1.4485177%3fmode=amp

Micky 32 · 07-03-2021 12:28AM

RGS wrote: »

Cant see wet pubs opening even with reduced capacity before Sept and probably shut for December as the variant will be vaccine immune.

:rolleyes: great to see the boards variant experts.

Chawosfski · 07-03-2021 12:40AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Where did you get a million a month from? Who said they could get to a million a month?

He said "you do realise"

It's definitely a fact

ypres5 · 07-03-2021 12:41AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

:rolleyes: great to see the boards variant experts.

it's amazing all the posters you see rubbishing the vaccines efficacy and the planned rollout seem to be the most ill informed about the whole situation

Deeper Blue · 07-03-2021 12:42AM

RGS wrote: »

Cant see wet pubs opening even with reduced capacity before Sept and probably shut for December as the variant will be vaccine immune.

And which variant is that exactly? One that's not yet been discovered? Sure why don't we just lock down forever just in case? Or while we're at it why don't we all jump off a bridge?

RGS · 07-03-2021 12:42AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

:rolleyes: great to see the boards variant experts.

I'm no expert but can imagine the idiotic waffle that will come from MM and Leo.

El_Duderino 09 · 07-03-2021 12:45AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

Old news…are you not able to keep up? With all your waffling i thought you’d at least know this.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-donnelly-hoping-to-reach-250-000-vaccinations-a-week-as-programme-ramps-up-1.4485177%3fmode=amp

Yeah fair enough. Thanks for sharing.

It’s an ambitious target. Interesting to see if they ever reach it.

markodaly · 07-03-2021 01:15AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

So what? Some of your posts are nothing to be proud of. WUM kinda stuff is all you post nothing constructive from what i can see.

As opposed to starting and ending most posts with 'misery merchants'?

I see stats and facts are now interchangeable when it suits.

Are you willing to admit you were wrong in terms of the public mood of the lockdown?

Micky 32 · 07-03-2021 01:22AM

markodaly wrote: »

As opposed to starting and ending most posts with 'misery merchants'?

I see stats and facts are now interchangeable when it suits.

Are you willing to admit you were wrong in terms of the public mood of the lockdown?

Well it’s easy to predict the posters who will get defensive if the words ‘misery merchants’is ever mentioned. Quite predictable

Lol admit to what? I’m not wrong at all and stand by it. It’s just you live in your one dimensional deluded world it seems and believe any poll that’s published. Real life in my experience makes your poll quite flawed.

You’ll find that ‘most’ of my posts don’t begin and end with ‘misery merchants’, unlike your exaggerated “ a few weeks” seem to be your favourite qoute.

jackryan34 · 07-03-2021 01:27AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

No because you’re an anti vaxxer who chooses to ignore and dismiss something you don’t like. I’ll remind you of your misleading post last night? It was pointed out to you with evidence of the vaccines working. Do you want me to quote it again?

Working requires time to prove

Being honest you also need cases to prove it works

After vaccination you only have antibodies for the spike protein, no vaccine targets the whole virus right now, they will later on in 2nd or 3rd gen vaccines, people who have survived an actual infection have antibodies that cover much more parts of the virus than just the spike protein.

If the spike protein mutates enough to evade vaccines or another entry via other proteins, people who natural immunity to the full virus, will be immune to many variants

Think of it in terms of donating plasma to a sick covid patient like a relative

You've got the vaccine and months later have loads of antibodies, you would think I can help my relative with my plasma and those antibodies but you can't give plasma to your relative, there is so much more to fighting an infection than just antibodies

That's why the term silver bullet is being used now

Its a complex problem

When will it all end?

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