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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #3812
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,012 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    political analyst wrote: »
    Surely, her brother must also have been devastated by their father's death.

    'Not severe but not mild' is a description that is applicable to some cases to the flu. If they don't have severe symptoms then they won't die.

    Very likely, but he’s disregarding everyone else feelings re: his behavior.

    They are not expected to die no... this however does not grant them a hall pass or justify and excuse behavior like they have exhibited...


  • #3813
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,054 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Strumms wrote: »
    Very likely, but he’s disregarding everyone else feelings re: his behavior.

    They are not expected to die no... this however does not grant them a hall pass or justify and excuse behavior like they have exhibited...

    It'll probably be water under the bridge by the summer. The Italian government is far more to blame because it failed to prevent its citizens from travelling to Ireland even when the rugby match had been cancelled. Furthermore, the British government let a rugby match and the Cheltenham races take place.


  • #3814
    micar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    Dermot224 wrote: »
    Was in the park today. 20 plus over 40's playing football.

    Was out running....went into a field with a few pitches .....Full blown match going on

    Zero ****s given

    On a positive note.....my dad got a call from his GP at 12.20 to organise his first vaccine jab which he got less than 1 hour later.


  • #3815
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,278 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Leftwaffe wrote: »
    Total dismissal when it comes to the intelligence of the ordinary people whilst also displaying total ignorance to the utter incompetence of those who are making the decisions.

    Seriously ?
    This reply shows that the country would be 100% safe in some people's hands ..:

    Of course we need experts advising , it's silly to say otherwise .
    I might think that my neighbour who is a fireman is the most sensible person and a good organiser, but that doesn't mean I would think him competent to advise others during a public health crisis, no reflection on firemen , I could have picked any job .
    Scientists are trained to apply logic and reason .
    It's the buffoons we have elected that are the main problem here for the last 9 or 10 months .
    Many of them seem to have left any common sense or logic that they may have acquired in a previous life at the door of the Dáil .


  • #3816
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    micar wrote: »
    Was out running....went into a field with a few pitches .....Full blown match going on

    Zero ****s given

    On a positive note.....my dad got a call from his GP at 12.20 to organise his first vaccine jab which he got less than 1 hour later.

    I had an (essential) errand today and on the way there/back I saw numerous packs of older teens and adults gathering in fairly large groups and passed a few pitches with matches/practice going on also. The large town I was headed to was wedged as it would be in normal times traffic wise. In a smaller village I passed the footpaths were very busy and full of groups of older adults and packs of women walking together with coffee's. I honestly couldn't believe my eyes. We live rurally and have two older primary school children not back yet, so we've been nowhere but the local food shop. It was a shock tbh.


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  • #3817
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,278 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    I had an (essential) errand today and on the way there/back I saw numerous packs of older teens and adults gathering in fairly large groups and passed a few pitches with matches/practice going on also. The large town I was headed to was wedged as it would be in normal times traffic wise. In a smaller village I passed the footpaths were very busy and full of groups of older adults and packs of women walking together with coffee's. I honestly couldn't believe my eyes. We live rurally and have two older primary school children not back yet, so we've been nowhere but the local food shop. It was a shock tbh.

    Out walking in what is a major park in Dublin around sunset.
    A few groups of teens with boxes of cans around , but it was a lot quieter than I have seen yesterday, for example .
    Would say a lot of people are travelling for work as well as heading out to get takeaway food at the end of the week causing surges now and then .


  • #3818
    Natterjack from Kerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    It's the buffoons we have elected that are the main problem here for the last 9 or 10 months .
    Many of them seem to have left any common sense or logic that they may have acquired in a previous life at the door of the Dáil .

    The quality of the elected reflects the quality of the electors.

    I would say the elected have done a rather good job. They can only be judged against their peers in similar circumstances. Not against what ideally we might like to have happened. On balance, we benefitted from having a govt that truly believed itself going out of government for the early part, and some pretty sensible people at the helm since then.I would count Donnelly among them, despite appearing a shodow of Harris, but that is more PR gaffe and poor communication than the real substance of getting the job done.


  • #3819
    Leftwaffe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    Donnelly? Good night folks. Enough for one day.


  • #3820
    Natterjack from Kerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    Leftwaffe wrote: »
    Donnelly? Good night folks. Enough for one day.

    He puts a lot of people off, and the management consultant speak and accent does make him come across as a prat. But we arent paying him to be a showman. The substance is there behind that.


  • #3821
    thebronze14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    I had an (essential) errand today and on the way there/back I saw numerous packs of older teens and adults gathering in fairly large groups and passed a few pitches with matches/practice going on also. The large town I was headed to was wedged as it would be in normal times traffic wise. In a smaller village I passed the footpaths were very busy and full of groups of older adults and packs of women walking together with coffee's. I honestly couldn't believe my eyes. We live rurally and have two older primary school children not back yet, so we've been nowhere but the local food shop. It was a shock tbh.

    Is it really that much of a shock to hear of people out socialising outside? Being honest I'd imagine most people are meeting up with others to a small extent at least. For someone so disgusted you did a lot of travelling between pitches, large towns, small villages and the likes;)


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  • #3822
    Tyrone212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


    Read earlier the government hopes to have all over 70s vaccinate by mid May...that can't be right surely? Seems incredibly slow.


  • #3823
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    thebronze14 wrote: »
    Is it really that much of a shock to hear of people out socialising outside? Being honest I'd imagine most people are meeting up with others to a small extent at least. For someone so disgusted you did a lot of travelling between pitches, large towns, small villages and the likes;)

    A year on and I'm shocked at others shock :) As long as there are humans you will have meeting up and groups and togetherness.


  • #3824
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,539 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Tyrone212 wrote: »
    Read earlier the government hopes to have all over 70s vaccinate by mid May...that can't be right surely? Seems incredibly slow.

    Where did you read it? The timeline changes so fast, it would be nice to see the updated schedule.


  • #3825
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    I had an (essential) errand today and on the way there/back I saw numerous packs of older teens and adults gathering in fairly large groups and passed a few pitches with matches/practice going on also. The large town I was headed to was wedged as it would be in normal times traffic wise. In a smaller village I passed the footpaths were very busy and full of groups of older adults and packs of women walking together with coffee's. I honestly couldn't believe my eyes. We live rurally and have two older primary school children not back yet, so we've been nowhere but the local food shop. It was a shock tbh.

    Don't worry you were outside, they were outside. Only so long people can lock themselves away for before they need interaction with others. You're going to be really shocked when the weather improves.


  • #3826
    DellyBelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    I had an (essential) errand today and on the way there/back I saw numerous packs of older teens and adults gathering in fairly large groups and passed a few pitches with matches/practice going on also. The large town I was headed to was wedged as it would be in normal times traffic wise. In a smaller village I passed the footpaths were very busy and full of groups of older adults and packs of women walking together with coffee's. I honestly couldn't believe my eyes. We live rurally and have two older primary school children not back yet, so we've been nowhere but the local food shop. It was a shock tbh.

    I hope you called the garda and let them know. We have similar issues especially with teenagers around us and I always call the guards. Actually had neighbours down our road who had a party a few weeks back. I was so feckin angry I reported them as well.. Its the only way to get these gobsh*tes to follow the restrictions..


  • #3827
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,072 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    I had an (essential) errand today and on the way there/back I saw numerous packs of older teens and adults gathering in fairly large groups and passed a few pitches with matches/practice going on also. The large town I was headed to was wedged as it would be in normal times traffic wise. In a smaller village I passed the footpaths were very busy and full of groups of older adults and packs of women walking together with coffee's. I honestly couldn't believe my eyes. We live rurally and have two older primary school children not back yet, so we've been nowhere but the local food shop. It was a shock tbh.

    That’s great to hear. This sort of thing should be actively encouraged as the risk of spreading the virus outdoors is tiny.


  • #3828
    Jane1012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Jane1012


    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    How is it bizarre? Are you a pregnant woman? Sleep well the other night did you?

    I am 4 months pregnant and terrified of getting covid anyway (as I’m high risk for another reason) but for some reason the announcement of the preliminary data did not upset me the way I thought it would.
    To be honest, I kind of feel like pregnant women will be somewhat considered more in the vaccination and protection against covid. I will be getting the vaccine when it’s my turn due to risk factors, but all other pregnant women have been thrown to the bottom of the pile. I rang HSE vaccination line a few days ago to ask a question and was straight away told pregnant women can’t be vaccinated. I then had to educate the person on the line that they were completely wrong and many pregnant healthcare workers have already been vaccinated and many high risk will be too.

    If they didn’t report this and simply told women it’s all fine you live your life as normal and it came out later that they knew there was an additional risk then there would be uproar.


  • #3829
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,769 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    I hope you called the garda and let them know. We have similar issues especially with teenagers around us and I always call the guards. Actually had neighbours down our road who had a party a few weeks back. I was so feckin angry I reported them as well.. Its the only way to get these gobsh*tes to follow the restrictions..

    This is depressing

    Whatever about the party but ringing the guards about teenagers meeting up outside...


  • #3830
    Natterjack from Kerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    lawred2 wrote: »
    This is depressing

    Whatever about the party but ringing the guards about teenagers meeting up outside...

    Its not just about teenagers meeting up outside though is it ? Its about teenagers meeting up outside during a pandemic lockdown. Not quite they same thing...


  • #3831
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,464 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    They're outside. The chances of catching it outside are massively reduced, according to pretty much every study that has been done.


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  • #3832
    Natterjack from Kerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Natterjack from Kerry


    Kiith wrote: »
    They're outside. The chances of catching it outside are massively reduced, according to pretty much every study that has been done.

    Reduced is not insignificant though. Lots of people doing something with massively reduced risk leads to a significant risk, and spread of the virus.


  • #3833
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Natterjack from Kerry wrote: »
    Reduced is not insignificant though. Lots of people doing something with massively reduced risk leads to a significant risk, and spread of the virus.
    You seem to be completely lacking a sense of perspective here. It's very significantly reduced as is the risk of being hit by a car, tripping, being mugged or meeting people you don't like! Also if you have a link to how this virus behaves in pouring rain or 50kph winds or even floats on a breeze I'd love to see it.


  • #3834
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Kiith wrote: »
    They're outside. The chances of catching it outside are massively reduced, according to pretty much every study that has been done.

    It depends on what you're doing. Prolonged close contact outside, e.g. a group of people standing close together talking, presents a risk. Two people 2m apart outside is very low risk. To illustrate the point, if I'm outside chatting to an friend who is infectious and we are 4m apart, I'm very safe. If I'm outside playing hooker in rugby and the prop is infectious, I'm at great risk.


  • #3835
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    It depends on what you're doing. Prolonged close contact outside, e.g. a group of people standing close together talking, presents a risk. Two people 2m apart outside is very low risk. To illustrate the point, if I'm outside chatting to an friend who is infectious and we are 4m apart, I'm very safe. If I'm outside playing hooker in rugby and the prop is infectious, I'm at great risk.
    Not if there are few to no scrums and it's significantly more likely in the shower room or having a meal together! How did this virus make people lose all sense of perspective? It's like an insidious form of long COVID!


  • #3836
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    It depends on what you're doing. Prolonged close contact outside, e.g. a group of people standing close together talking, presents a risk. Two people 2m apart outside is very low risk. To illustrate the point, if I'm outside chatting to an friend who is infectious and we are 4m apart, I'm very safe. If I'm outside playing hooker in rugby and the prop is infectious, I'm at great risk.

    I agree with what you're saying to a point. It's assumed you would be at great risk from the prop. It's never actually been tested afaik. Open to correction.


  • #3837
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Not if there are few to no scrums and it's significantly more likely in the shower room or having a meal together! How did this virus make people lose all sense of perspective? It's like an insidious form of long COVID!

    In what way am I losing perspective?


  • #3838
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,769 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    It depends on what you're doing. Prolonged close contact outside, e.g. a group of people standing close together talking, presents a risk. Two people 2m apart outside is very low risk. To illustrate the point, if I'm outside chatting to an friend who is infectious and we are 4m apart, I'm very safe. If I'm outside playing hooker in rugby and the prop is infectious, I'm at great risk.

    luckily though most people aren't currently meeting up to scrummage each other


  • #3839
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    In what way am I losing perspective?
    That anyone who comes within 2m of you outside is going to give you COVID.


  • #3840
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Turtwig wrote: »
    I agree with what you're saying to a point. It's assumed you would be at great risk from the prop. It's never actually been tested afaik. Open to correction.

    Personally, given the close contact in scrums and rucks, and the panting and shouting, I would see it as a great risk despite being outside. As I write this this, it occurs to me that I should also stop attending orgies outdoors.


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  • #3841
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    is_that_so wrote: »
    That anyone who comes within 2m of you outside is going to give you COVID.

    I didn't say that.


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