CONSTRUCTION LOCKDOWN JAN 2021

Corby Trouser Press · 02-03-2021 10:34pm

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Pretty obvious really.

Any state contracts are pushing on.

They got a raft of claims for delay last March and gave avoided that by allowing social housing and any "essential" infrastructure continue.

So Irish water and TII have stopped nothing.
I mean is a new aeration tank for energy efficiency at a sewerage plant any more essential than a private housing estate?

They got hammered last year from every side.

This country is run by the public sector, for the public sector.

NPHET want everyone under their beds for the rest of the year it seems.

Nobody wants to question them on the logic of these restrictions, in media or politics.

Small builder and self builder have no voice and no representation.

beggars_bush · 02-03-2021 10:44pm

private house up the road today

2 lorry loads of precast floor slabs
crane

no lockdown here

Le shovelle · 03-03-2021 11:18am

Local guard building a house not far from me. Hollow core slabs being fitted today by a northern Irish company.
I suppose were all in this together eh!

LCD · 03-03-2021 1:24pm

Can see quite a lot of building going on again in Co. Louth, neither essential or social

Speaking of guards, live beside one. Driving a northern reg car the last 6months & during 1st lockdown had the full on birthday part for his kid with the bouncy castle. You would know to talk to him that he isn't the brightest spark but has a touch of arrogance about him.

I am just having a moan because I am frustrated that my own build wont start again. Electrician is playing is safe doing nixers instead

Frozen Veg · 03-03-2021 8:29pm

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Pretty obvious really.

Any state contracts are pushing on.

They got a raft of claims for delay last March and gave avoided that by allowing social housing and any "essential" infrastructure continue.

So Irish water and TII have stopped nothing.
I mean is a new aeration tank for energy efficiency at a sewerage plant any more essential than a private housing estate?

They got hammered last year from every side.

There are a number of new road infrastructure projects still going on in the West.

Which 'essential' criteria is that meeting?

Weepsie · 03-03-2021 8:34pm

There are a fair few private housing estates going up around d15 still, and there's an awful lot of people getting work done on houses on my road alone. I wouldn't be classifying any of them as essential either.

Gumbo · 03-03-2021 11:37pm

Frozen Veg wrote: »

There are a number of new road infrastructure projects still going on in the West.

Which 'essential' criteria is that meeting?

Infrastructure projects are allowed under SI4 of 2021.

(h) the repair, maintenance and construction of critical transport and utility infrastructure;

Weepsie wrote: »

There are a fair few private housing estates going up around d15 still, and there's an awful lot of people getting work done on houses on my road alone. I wouldn't be classifying any of them as essential either.

Most residential projects should be stopped but home adaptation works, grant funded works and repairs/maintenance are allowed.

Cienciano · 04-03-2021 11:08am

Gumbo wrote: »

Infrastructure projects are allowed under SI4 of 2021.

Most residential projects should be stopped but home adaptation works, grant funded works and repairs/maintenance are allowed.

You could easily say it's not "critical". Basically, if the project is big enough it won't stop. Just the plebs doing small projects. #allinthistogether

Bonzo Delaney · 04-03-2021 11:39am

What a lot of people here giving out about works still going on in houses are forgetting, is the mortgage and loan company's have stopped their mortgage and loan holiday option.
An awfull lot of trades people are self employed in the industry so still have the yearly running costs of their businesses to maintain regardless.
So most workers are and have to take any work they can get to keep afloat regardless in a safe a manner as they can.

scwazrh · 04-03-2021 11:45am

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

What a lot of people here giving out about works still going on in houses are forgetting, is the mortgage and loan company's have stopped their mortgage and loan holiday option.
An awfull lot of trades people are self employed in the industry so still have the yearly running costs of their businesses to maintain regardless.
So most workers are and have to take any work they can get to keep afloat regardless in a safe a manner as they can.

Same argument can be used for pub staff but they don’t just open and work away .why is it different for trades people?

elvisn · 04-03-2021 2:28pm

Not sure if this is the right thread for this kind of question, but here it goes...

Does anyone know what kind of person/company I'd need to contact to come and inspect how my house was constructed and provide a report. I'm having an issue with the flooring upstairs, if you move around gently upstairs, the shelves, desks, wardrobes and floors in 2+ rooms will shake, it's getting progressively worse too. It's a new build house that's under 18months old, the contractor has "fixed" it once by putting in some extra screws. In one room the flooring has started to "sag" towards the middle so the dresser, crib etc now all tilts away from the walls towards the middle and we were told "sure you'll never get a floor completely level". So my only course of action now is to get someone in to rip up the floors and check if it was done right or not and provide a professional report if it's not correct so that I can go back to the contractor and him fix it properly. It's gotten to stage now where I'm worried the wardrobe might fall on us while we sleep, or the floor might cave in (possibly over dramatic), can't even sneak up the stairs without waking the kids, so it means everyone upstairs at 8pm, we're like prisoners in our own home.

Gumbo · 04-03-2021 2:40pm

elvisn wrote: »

Not sure if this is the right thread for this kind of question, but here it goes...

Does anyone know what kind of person/company I'd need to contact to come and inspect how my house was constructed and provide a report. I'm having an issue with the flooring upstairs, if you move around gently upstairs, the shelves, desks, wardrobes and floors in 2+ rooms will shake, it's getting progressively worse too. It's a new build house that's under 18months old, the contractor has "fixed" it once by putting in some extra screws. In one room the flooring has started to "sag" towards the middle so the dresser, crib etc now all tilts away from the walls towards the middle and we were told "sure you'll never get a floor completely level". So my only course of action now is to get someone in to rip up the floors and check if it was done right or not and provide a professional report if it's not correct so that I can go back to the contractor and him fix it properly. It's gotten to stage now where I'm worried the wardrobe might fall on us while we sleep, or the floor might cave in (possibly over dramatic), can't even sneak up the stairs without waking the kids, so it means everyone upstairs at 8pm, we're like prisoners in our own home.

Building Surveyor

elvisn · 04-03-2021 2:50pm

Gumbo wrote: »

Building Surveyor

Cheers, mind went blank and couldn't think of what to search. Got in contact with a company that are getting back to me. Thanks.

Corby Trouser Press · 05-03-2021 1:53pm

https://www.independent.ie/news/state-faces-legal-challenge-to-discriminatory-covid-19-construction-restrictions-40162601.html

State faces legal challenge to ‘discriminatory’ Covid-19 construction restrictions

The State is facing a High Court challenge to Covid-19 restrictions which have halted around 60pc of construction work across the country.

The case is being taken by Blue Whisp Ltd, a company controlled by businessmen Paddy McKillen Jr and Matt Ryan which had been building an apartment block at the site of the old Kiely’s Pub in Mount Merrion, Dublin.

It is the second legal challenge launched by the two businessmen over Covid restrictions.

Their Press Up group, which has substantial interests in leisure and hospitality, also sued the State over restrictions closing pubs and restaurants last year.

The latest case involves claims that while certain types of construction work is exempt from restrictions, other types, such as the construction of private housing, are being unfairly discriminated against.

The application for a judicial review was moved this morning by Rossa Fanning SC, instructed by Leman Solicitors, for Blue Whisp Ltd.

“We wish to bring an urgent challenge to the regulations on the basis they are irrational, disproportionate and discriminatory,” Mr Fanning told Mr Justice Charles Meenan.

He said it was an urgent and significant case. Regulations relating to what construction work can and cannot continue are due to be extended by the Government today.

“The significance of the case is that it would affect 60pc of the construction industry which is presently at a standstill. And there are very significant weekly costs being incurred by my client and clearly by other parties that would be interested in these proceedings,” said Mr Fanning.
The proceedings are against the Health Minister.

Mr Fanning said there had already been correspondence between his side and the minister in which minister rejected the claims being made.

The court heard that certain types of construction were exempt from restrictions, including work on hospitals, schools and critical transport infrastructure, but other types, including the construction work being undertaken at the Mount Merrion site, were not.

Mr Fanning said that in applying to strike down the regulations, his clients did not overlook the significant public health challenge posed by the pandemic.

“We accept the Government has had an unenviable task in seeking to strike a balance between protecting public health and permitting certain important economic activity,” he said.

“But we say this, and it is an important point. The criteria have to be based on public health.”

Mr Fanning said the minister, for example, can decide golf isn’t permitted. But it wouldn’t be permissible for the minister to say you can have golf on public courses but not on private courses or that men could play golf but not women.

“That would be a distinction in the regulations with no apparent connection to public health,” he said.

Mr Fanning said “public/private discrimination” was the “Achilles heel” of the construction regulations currently in place.

“There is a hotchpotch of different categories of construction, some of which are exempted and some of which are not. The exemption is determined by the purpose of the construction project, not by the public health effect,” he said.

Mr Fanning said construction on computer factories that manufacture microchips was exempt, as was building a data centre, or public housing construction that is about to conclude.

“But if I am engaged in the construction of private housing, that is excluded. We say that is a discriminatory criteria that is not relevant to public health,” he said.

Mr Justice Meenan ordered that the application be made on notice to the minister and adjourned proceedings for a week.

About time.

Not that he will get anywhere with it but worth a go at this stage.

DOCARCH · 05-03-2021 6:40pm

Would be good to have some clarity soon!

https://twitter.com/irishexaminer/status/1367852789422989319?s=21

Pink11 · 05-03-2021 8:11pm

Best wishes and thank you to the construction company taking legal action. It’s 100% not fair to allow some but not all.

I’m paying both rent and mortgage since early December. I need one builder to work for 5 weeks by himself and he’s not allowed since Christmas. We are not putting anyone in danger as we are renting a tiny apartment. The builder will be working alone at the property no interaction.

As usual the tax paying, law abiding hard working must suffer in this democratic country

Frozen Veg · 05-03-2021 9:37pm

Doesn't make sense either having lads claiming the PUP and working away at the same time.

Frozen Veg · 06-03-2021 9:46pm

For those that are adhering to restrictions and have not started or continued building.

If the government continue to extend the restrictions on construction into the summer, at what point are you going to decide you've had enough and just decide to get going with your project?

the_pen_turner · 06-03-2021 9:52pm

Frozen Veg wrote: »

For those that are adhering to restrictions and have not started or continued building.

If the government continue to extend the restrictions on construction into the summer, at what point are you going to decide you've had enough and just decide to get going with your project?

im a tradesman and have been adhering 100%. i did 2 small jobs that were very essential (a leak in a roof and making a wall safe). i could be working away on the QT but i am doing my bit.
but come april 5 i cant justify staying at home anymore while loads other are working away doing all kinds of stupid crap thats not even remotly essential.

Wildly Boaring · 06-03-2021 10:00pm

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

What a lot of people here giving out about works still going on in houses are forgetting, is the mortgage and loan company's have stopped their mortgage and loan holiday option.
An awfull lot of trades people are self employed in the industry so still have the yearly running costs of their businesses to maintain regardless.
So most workers are and have to take any work they can get to keep afloat regardless in a safe a manner as they can.

Many "giving out" myself included, aren't really giving out.

My view is more that there are rules. There appears to be some enforcement of the rules. And then there is blatant disregard of they rules. For example I drove through my home parish and I see a groundworker I know well digging foundations on a new build.

It appears that the clients and builders following the rules are being penalized for actually following the rules.

So now we have companies like Flynn in trouble to the tune of 500k a week
https://amp-independent-ie.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/amp.independent.ie/business/irish/interview-pandemic-pause-slows-flynns-march-40139142.html

The lockdown last year cost my employer 500k, we are now on a 4 day week.
70% of our sites are stopped.

I've heard of 3 major builders letting off salaried staff in the last week. 2 major builders imposing severe pay cuts. We have 2 clients in VERY precarious positions. Commercial builds with massive money owed and nothing bring built to pay back banks.

There are companies in severe financial distress but if they risk it and go building they could get away with it, or so it seems.

When I point out sites that are operating I'm not giving out. I'm more wondering what the story is?

For instance Walls kept building on a site I'm aware of, the guards called daily to ensure they were only doing a small bit of emergency works. Yet we have two clients with a couple of social houses in the estate and they are flat out building the whole estate. About 2 miles from that Walls estate.

ZeroSum76 · 08-03-2021 5:03pm

Frozen Veg wrote: »

For those that are adhering to restrictions and have not started or continued building.

If the government continue to extend the restrictions on construction into the summer, at what point are you going to decide you've had enough and just decide to get going with your project?

Possibly next week. One builder on his own outside. Enough is enough.

km79 · 08-03-2021 6:40pm

Frozen Veg wrote: »

For those that are adhering to restrictions and have not started or continued building.

If the government continue to extend the restrictions on construction into the summer, at what point are you going to decide you've had enough and just decide to get going with your project?

April 6th
We need somewhere to live
Tbh I expect we will be able to anyways . Schools have been given the go ahead for next phase of reopening from next Monday . I don’t think there will be a huge jump in numbers as majority of secondary students will still be at home . After Easter could be a different story but vaccines numbers will be going up weekly
This has to be the last nationwide lockdown !

Frozen Veg · 08-03-2021 8:05pm

km79 wrote: »

April 6th
We need somewhere to live
Tbh I expect we will be able to anyways . Schools have been given the go ahead for next phase of reopening from next Monday . I don’t think there will be a huge jump in numbers as majority of secondary students will still be at home . After Easter could be a different story but vaccines numbers will be going up weekly
This has to be the last nationwide lockdown !

Wouldn't be overly confident that construction restrictions will be lifted in April.

There is so much construction going on now that they may feel there is no need for it open it formally for a while more. Majority of rural one offs are back now with a blind eye being turned. The enforcement of the restrictions is farcical to say the least.

Just unfortunate for those who can't get going or have had to stop.

ZeroSum76 · 09-03-2021 1:56pm

We've just been given notice that we need to be out for July. We've no contract/lease as we're staying in a holiday home which is ordinarily reserved for short term bookings but made an arrangement with the owner. He told us we need to be gone by July. We have a good 7 months work ahead on our home (and that's ambitious) and it's currently a ghost building site, shut down since January after 1.5 weeks work and half demolished.

I am seeking some official permission to proceed now (from HSE) but I am not holding my breath. We both work, pay way more than our fair share of tax (effective tax rate of 48%) we have two small kids and we are losing 2k per month in rent, while paying mortgage on an abandoned property, until July, at which point we will be homeless. We're getting hammered here by this. Our builder is looking for some commitment he won't be shut down before he takes people off the PUP. I don't think anyone will provide it.

mickdw · 09-03-2021 2:01pm

ZeroSum76 wrote: »

We've just been given notice that we need to be out for July. We've no contract/lease as we're staying in a holiday home which is ordinarily reserved for short term bookings but made an arrangement with the owner. He told us we need to be gone by July. We have a good 7 months work ahead on our home (and that's ambitious) and it's currently a ghost building site, shut down since January after 1.5 weeks work and half demolished.

I am seeking some official permission to proceed now (from HSE) but I am not holding my breath. We both work, pay way more than our fair share of tax (effective tax rate of 48%) we have two small kids and we are losing 2k per month in rent, while paying mortgage on an abandoned property, until July, at which point we will be homeless. We're getting hammered here by this. Our builder is looking for some commitment he won't be shut down before he takes people off the PUP. I don't think anyone will provide it.

Ive one self building client who got some form of letter after badgering local td and councillors. He is back on site anyway! I dont personally agree with some getting ahead like this but thats the way things tend to go.
Surely your mortgage couldnt be too crippling as you have nothing built yet.

km79 · 09-03-2021 2:01pm

ZeroSum76 wrote: »

We've just been given notice that we need to be out for July. We've no contract/lease as we're staying in a holiday home which is ordinarily reserved for short term bookings but made an arrangement with the owner. He told us we need to be gone by July. We have a good 7 months work ahead on our home (and that's ambitious) and it's currently a ghost building site, shut down since January after 1.5 weeks work and half demolished.

I am seeking some official permission to proceed now (from HSE) but I am not holding my breath. We both work, pay way more than our fair share of tax (effective tax rate of 48%) we have two small kids and we are losing 2k per month in rent, while paying mortgage on an abandoned property, until July, at which point we will be homeless. We're getting hammered here by this. Our builder is looking for some commitment he won't be shut down before he takes people off the PUP. I don't think anyone will provide it.

I’d be sending that to every local politician and newspaper
That’s the reality for some families and it’s not being acknowledged

ZeroSum76 · 09-03-2021 2:18pm

mickdw wrote: »

Ive one self building client who got some form of letter after badgering local td and councillors. He is back on site anyway! I dont personally agree with some getting ahead like this but thats the way things tend to go.
Surely your mortgage couldnt be too crippling as you have nothing built yet.

I got a letter from a TD and councillor too but they don't have the authority to approve it officially. So based on that we stayed closed. Our mortgage isn't crippling on its own but lob in 2k rent per month on top and we're being cleaned out. We (my wife and I) had to have a frank discussion yesterday about whether or not we could afford a utility.

Corby Trouser Press · 09-03-2021 4:37pm

km79 wrote: »

I’d be sending that to every local politician and newspaper
That’s the reality for some families and it’s not being acknowledged

They don't care.

No politician has stood up and questioned why a mostly safe outdoor activity has been largely shutdown for 8 weeks now with another 4 at least to go.

Media largely treat NPHET "advice" like Gospel while industry representatives like Tom Parlon get grilled instead.

Construction firms of all sizes now suffering seriously.
Those waiting on homes suffering too.

Official Ireland has shrugged it's shoulders as if there is nothing that can be done.

Basically, put everyone waiting for a home or those trying to run business building homes in the same category as the barman.

"Ye are fcuked waiting there lads, NPHET says so and we can't work around that!"

ZeroSum76 · 09-03-2021 4:48pm

Pretty much. At least a barperson who's out of work gets some compensation.

Cienciano · 09-03-2021 5:34pm

ZeroSum76 wrote: »

We've just been given notice that we need to be out for July. We've no contract/lease as we're staying in a holiday home which is ordinarily reserved for short term bookings but made an arrangement with the owner. He told us we need to be gone by July. We have a good 7 months work ahead on our home (and that's ambitious) and it's currently a ghost building site, shut down since January after 1.5 weeks work and half demolished.

I am seeking some official permission to proceed now (from HSE) but I am not holding my breath. We both work, pay way more than our fair share of tax (effective tax rate of 48%) we have two small kids and we are losing 2k per month in rent, while paying mortgage on an abandoned property, until July, at which point we will be homeless. We're getting hammered here by this. Our builder is looking for some commitment he won't be shut down before he takes people off the PUP. I don't think anyone will provide it.

I looked for the go ahead from the HSE and they just replied a copy and paste from the government covid restrictions guidelines about construction.

ZeroSum76 · 09-03-2021 5:41pm

Cienciano wrote: »

I looked for the go ahead from the HSE and they just replied a copy and paste from the government covid restrictions guidelines about construction.

I expect the same. Seems no one is able to provide authority or clarity. The Gardai won't comment one way or another unless they are showing up onsite. If I move back into my house tomorrow, there is an awful lot of work that could be classed as emergency given it's like Aleppo at the moment.

Is that the only way to test the water, so to speak? To proceed and answer questions later? I've no choice now we played ball for over 3 months.

Corby Trouser Press · 09-03-2021 6:34pm

I wouldn’t know enough to give anyone advice but if it was under my control and lads were happy to travel to site I would open up and take the risk.

What is it a €2k fine for operating a site against restrictions?

How much is endless months of paying rent going to ultimately cost?

Pink11 · 10-03-2021 12:59am

I am discussing with the builder than if he starts and is slapped with a fine, we promise we'll pay for it. We think it's worth a shot because if we can move in by May it saves us another month of rent but we can move into our own place.

I'm tired of paying rent and mortgage - playing ball with the govs last minute, made up as they go along plans - we're crammed here both working from home in a tiny apartment while our house we scrimped for is a vacant money pit. Our mental health is suffering more than anything else. We haven't seen our families since December (we obey the 5km and all the other rules) but I think everything is really starting to wear thin now.

Why is social housing a priority but those who have worked for it must wait and pay even more money for an overpriced house?

Bonzo Delaney · 10-03-2021 7:35am

Anecdotally, I'm on a house at the moment full crew on site and two guards doing the tiling in their spare time on their days off. You couldn't make it up

Wildly Boaring · 10-03-2021 9:30am

Couple bits I saw yesterday

We really are an outlier

Obviously both put out by CIF. One is a report (i assume they commissioned) by McKinseys

10-03-2021 9:35am

Pink11 wrote: »

I am discussing with the builder than if he starts and is slapped with a fine, we promise we'll pay for it. We think it's worth a shot because if we can move in by May it saves us another month of rent but we can move into our own place.

I'm tired of paying rent and mortgage - playing ball with the govs last minute, made up as they go along plans - we're crammed here both working from home in a tiny apartment while our house we scrimped for is a vacant money pit. Our mental health is suffering more than anything else. We haven't seen our families since December (we obey the 5km and all the other rules) but I think everything is really starting to wear thin now.

Why is social housing a priority but those who have worked for it must wait and pay even more money for an overpriced house?

I couldn't agree more. It's so unfair. We are moving to a new development and were told 2 weeks ago it's delayed till October, but now its going to be November before the house is built! Unfair how social housing is more priority when the rest of us pay our taxes and scrimp and scrape to buy our own houses

Jinglejangle69 · 10-03-2021 9:51am

Pink11 wrote: »

I am discussing with the builder than if he starts and is slapped with a fine, we promise we'll pay for it. We think it's worth a shot because if we can move in by May it saves us another month of rent but we can move into our own place.

I'm tired of paying rent and mortgage - playing ball with the govs last minute, made up as they go along plans - we're crammed here both working from home in a tiny apartment while our house we scrimped for is a vacant money pit. Our mental health is suffering more than anything else. We haven't seen our families since December (we obey the 5km and all the other rules) but I think everything is really starting to wear thin now.

Why is social housing a priority but those who have worked for it must wait and pay even more money for an overpriced house?

It's blatent discrimination.

It's shocking how noone is calling the government out on it.

If it were private housing been built and not social you would have every opposition party from SF to the profit screaming about how unfair it is blah.

You have my upmost sympathy.

So so unfair.

Frozen Veg · 10-03-2021 10:38am

ZeroSum76 wrote: »

I expect the same. Seems no one is able to provide authority or clarity. The Gardai won't comment one way or another unless they are showing up onsite. If I move back into my house tomorrow, there is an awful lot of work that could be classed as emergency given it's like Aleppo at the moment.

Is that the only way to test the water, so to speak? To proceed and answer questions later? I've no choice now we played ball for over 3 months.

Yes. The mantra seems to be go ahead until you're stopped. You're just reliant on nobody reporting you.

Banana Republic.

Frozen Veg · 10-03-2021 10:42am

Corby Trouser Press wrote: »

I wouldn’t know enough to give anyone advice but if it was under my control and lads were happy to travel to site I would open up and take the risk.

What is it a €2k fine for operating a site against restrictions?

How much is endless months of paying rent going to ultimately cost?

The legalities of the fines won't stand up in court anyways. They cannot constitutionally stop people building their home for months and class it as non essential. It is essential, people need a place to live just as much as those on social housing lists.

Cienciano · 10-03-2021 11:36am

ZeroSum76 wrote: »

I expect the same. Seems no one is able to provide authority or clarity. The Gardai won't comment one way or another unless they are showing up onsite. If I move back into my house tomorrow, there is an awful lot of work that could be classed as emergency given it's like Aleppo at the moment.

Is that the only way to test the water, so to speak? To proceed and answer questions later? I've no choice now we played ball for over 3 months.

Seems to me that "emergency" work is completely open to interpertation. What you consider an emergency may not be someone elses. So, if the work is somewhat "emergency" you're fine. If someone reports you and HSE are called out, they will make the call. If you're installing italian marble flooring, they'll probably fine you. If you're weatherproofing an existing structure, like finishing a roof, you'll be fine. Might be told to stop, but probably won't be fined.

Good point about moving back into to the house. HSE seem to only classed a lot of work as emergency if someone is living there. My builder has said he's coming back in 2 weeks. Only reason he's not back now is he actually got covid and it took time to recover.

Pink11 · 10-03-2021 6:55pm

Now they’re saying things won’t budge until mid May!?

km79 · 10-03-2021 7:21pm

Pink11 wrote: »

Now they’re saying things won’t budge until mid May!?

Who said this ?

ZeroSum76 · 10-03-2021 7:25pm

km79 wrote: »

Who said this ?

Breaking News have the following which is at odds with that comment you're asking about.

"Current Level 5 measures are set to remain until April 5th, after which time Mr Martin said any changes made will stay in effect until mid-May.

It is thought construction will be permitted to reopen as part of the easing, while the 5km limit may also be lifted, and people may be allowed to meet in small groups outdoors."

sydthebeat · 10-03-2021 7:32pm

Leo and Mehole talking out of both sides of their mouth again...

thegills · 10-03-2021 7:35pm

Frozen Veg wrote:

Yes. The mantra seems to be go ahead until you're stopped. You're just reliant on nobody reporting you.

Reporting doesn't matter either. House near me being fully renovated. They've been reported but nothing changes. They're not even discreet.

km79 · 10-03-2021 7:35pm

ZeroSum76 wrote: »

Breaking News have the following which is at odds with that comment you're asking about.

"Current Level 5 measures are set to remain until April 5th, after which time Mr Martin said any changes made will stay in effect until mid-May.

It is thought construction will be permitted to reopen as part of the easing, while the 5km limit may also be lifted, and people may be allowed to meet in small groups outdoors."

Everything I’ve read indicates construction will reopen
The only question is what type .....

Pink11 · 10-03-2021 8:49pm

I was fully convinced construction was re-opening on March 5th. Was gobsmacked when they moved the goal post again at the eleventh hour.

I'll believe it when I see it.

mickdw · 10-03-2021 9:00pm

Pink11 wrote: »

I was fully convinced construction was re-opening on March 5th. Was gobsmacked when they moved the goal post again at the eleventh hour.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Ya they just appeared to stop talking about 5th march and moved it on.
I wouldnt be betting on any dates until they get a hefty amount of vaccine out and schools running to plan.

km79 · 12-03-2021 9:35am

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/lockdown-ireland-childrens-training-and-outdoor-sports-in-line-for-april-return-as-hospitality-sector-voices-anger-with-cabinet-40187058.html

"Some areas of construction"
Not sure I like the sound of that

Corby Trouser Press · 12-03-2021 10:48am

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

It's blatent discrimination.

It's shocking how noone is calling the government out on it.

If it were private housing been built and not social you would have every opposition party from SF to the profit screaming about how unfair it is blah.

You have my upmost sympathy.

So so unfair.

I have only just noticed now that the regulations have been quietly changed re Social Housing;

"; the construction or development of social housing by a local authority where the project is scheduled for completion by 30 April; "

It was previously 28 Feb.

Sickening actually.

And they apparently won't be "lobbied" by "sectoral interests".

They will just quietly keep going with this construction apartheid policy, looking after social housing targets.

And the opposition do not care.

And the media do not care.

CONSTRUCTION LOCKDOWN JAN 2021

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