Gyms to Reopen 2021???

04-03-2021 07:42AM

gypsy79 wrote: »

You dont know anything about my story you dick and that is complete pointless smart arse comment

I have stage 4 cancer and the goal of getting out on a golf course is one of the few exercises I can do. There is an impact when you hit a golf ball

It also gives me something to focus on when I walk 10km

Sorry to hear you have cancer. I don't think it excuses your reaction.

From an exercise point of view, golf isn't a necessity for you. The actual physical side of golf is easily replaced. You're confusing the physical benefits with the benefits to your mental state of mind, which I'm sure we can all understand.

gypsy79 · 04-03-2021 09:55AM

Basil3 wrote: »

Sorry to hear you have cancer. I don't think it excuses your reaction.

From an exercise point of view, golf isn't a necessity for you. The actual physical side of golf is easily replaced. You're confusing the physical benefits with the benefits to your mental state of mind, which I'm sure we can all understand.

I have explained why it helps. You can ignore that. It is also completely risk free. So completely different

The point I was making is that everybody is different and needs different tools to help them succeed in their mental and physical fitness. You think everyone is in your position

04-03-2021 10:19AM

gypsy79 wrote: »

I have explained why it helps. You can ignore that. It is also completely risk free. So completely different

The point I was making is that everybody is different and needs different tools to help them succeed in their mental and physical fitness. You think everyone is in your position

No, I don't.

I'm also in a unique position, and the last year has affected me in a way that doesn't affect most people. I'm not going to call you names because you don't know anything about my story, though.

JTMan · 06-03-2021 08:41AM

What are peoples latest thoughts on when gyms will reopen?

Anyone hold out hope that we will go to level 3 on 5 April and gyms will reopen? or do people think it will be late April (when it seems the next review will occur)?

DylanJM · 06-03-2021 09:02AM

JTMan wrote: »

What are peoples latest thoughts on when gyms will reopen?

Anyone hold out hope that we will go to level 3 on 5 April and gyms will reopen? or do people think it will be late April (when it seems the next review will occur)?

May at the earliest I think but probably June.

Alf Veedersane · 06-03-2021 09:37AM

JTMan wrote: »

What are peoples latest thoughts on when gyms will reopen?

Anyone hold out hope that we will go to level 3 on 5 April and gyms will reopen? or do people think it will be late April (when it seems the next review will occur)?

I don't think there is a whiff of a chance they move to level 3 on April 5th. Probably open up construction and maybe relax movement to county boundaries but at the current rate of decline it will be mid April before the numbers were where they were hoped to be on 1st of March.

Probably be June.

senordingdong · 06-03-2021 11:18AM

If the vaccine rollout was going according to plan I would have said May.
But that is hitting bumps every step of the way so I think we'll be lucky to salvage the tail end of the summer.

iguana · 06-03-2021 11:22AM

Varadkar has said they will be watching Israel's "Green Badge" scheme where leisure facilities are allowed to open at similar levels to normal if they require users to have a vaccine certificate. It's hard to know with Varakar if that's really under consideration here. But I do wonder if it is something that we'll see in the future. Maybe gyms and other facilities will be allowed return to their old capacities if everyone is vaccinated. (With allowances made for those who have genuine health conditions that mean they can't be vaccinated. I don't know how it will work for facilities that young teens and children use, as they won't be cleared for vaccination for quite some time.)

I know we will have an obvious reluctance to police people's medical choices to some degree. But at the same time if I owned a business that could normally have 100+ customers on site, I'd be quite tempted to enter such a scheme rather than being closed or only able to have 50 people including staff on site.

The Davestator · 06-03-2021 01:16PM

If the figures keep going the way they are, we should be at level 4 for April and level 3 in May when gyms can open.

Anything less than that is a massive failure and simply ignoring the stats.

Alf Veedersane · 06-03-2021 01:28PM

The Davestator wrote: »

If the figures keep going the way they are, we should be at level 4 for April and level 3 in May when gyms can open.

Anything less than that is a massive failure and simply ignoring the stats.

I doubt it will be that quick. They're terrified of opening too quickly after what happened in December.

But I think the levels are kind of meaningless now. There will be elements of level 4 and 5 after a while before level 4 and then elements of 3 and 4 etc

DylanJM · 06-03-2021 01:49PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I doubt it will be that quick. They're terrified of opening too quickly after what happened in December.

But I think the levels are kind of meaningless now. There will be elements of level 4 and 5 after a while before level 4 and then elements of 3 and 4 etc

We're unlikely to return to a situation like that I think. Between the change in season and the most vulnerable being vaccinated by May we really should be looking to go back to level 3. After a certain number of vaccinations the raw case numbers become less relevant. Cases will go up once we reopen but if it's not resulting in significant strain on HSE then there's no need to lockdown again.

Alf Veedersane · 06-03-2021 01:57PM

DylanJM wrote: »

We're unlikely to return to a situation like that I think. Between the change in season and the most vulnerable being vaccinated by May we really should be looking to go back to level 3. After a certain number of vaccinations the raw case numbers become less relevant. Cases will go up once we reopen but if it's not resulting in significant strain on HSE then there's no need to lockdown again.

I don't disagree with that. I just think in the short term they will be very slow to step through to level 4 and then 3 by May.

The Davestator · 06-03-2021 02:03PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I doubt it will be that quick. They're terrified of opening too quickly after what happened in December.

But I think the levels are kind of meaningless now. There will be elements of level 4 and 5 after a while before level 4 and then elements of 3 and 4 etc

You could well be right, but it's important to remember it's only 6th March now so if the figures keep going the way they have been, there will (or at least there should) be huge pressure to get open in May.

Alf Veedersane · 06-03-2021 02:13PM

The Davestator wrote: »

You could well be right, but it's important to remember it's only 6th March now so if the figures keep going the way they have been, there will (or at least there should) be huge pressure to get open in May.

The numbers are going down slowly and I think the variant card will be played in terms of reopening early. The numbers are well off where they had wanted them to be at on March 1st. If they pull their finger out on the vaccination front, it might speed things up.

Obviously I hope I'm very wrong

jrosen · 06-03-2021 04:14PM

The remainder of secondary school students only return to school April 12th. Hopefully by the end of April we should then see a reduction in restrictions.

nullzero · 06-03-2021 04:47PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

The numbers are going down slowly and I think the variant card will be played in terms of reopening early. The numbers are well off where they had wanted them to be at on March 1st. If they pull their finger out on the vaccination front, it might speed things up.

Obviously I hope I'm very wrong

They're terrified of opening things up after the balls up they made with the October lockdown.

There will be new variants that will raise their heads in the coming months, a few have been touted already but thankfully they've been flashes in the pan so far.

Mid to late summer is the most likely reopening window. I can't see there being any will to be seen to take risks after previous failures. Although there's a reasonable risk of lockdowns occurring again at the end of the year. We'll be living with this for a good while to come unfortunately.

The Davestator · 06-03-2021 07:46PM

nullzero wrote: »

They're terrified of opening things up after the balls up they made with the October lockdown.

There will be new variants that will raise their heads in the coming months, a few have been touted already but thankfully they've been flashes in the pan so far.

Mid to late summer is the most likely reopening window. I can't see there being any will to be seen to take risks after previous failures. Although there's a reasonable risk of lockdowns occurring again at the end of the year. We'll be living with this for a good while to come unfortunately.

I doubt there would be any compliance if the gov tried to lockdown with a handful of cases in the hospital which would the be the case once the vac programme actually delivers.

06-03-2021 07:51PM

The only balls up was folks going to multiple jammed 'restaurants' and a lash of folk over from England after guidance was they didn't come home.

nullzero · 06-03-2021 09:41PM

Augeo wrote: »

The only balls up was folks going to multiple jammed 'restaurants' and a lash of folk over from England after guidance was they didn't come home.

Street pints were the biggest problem.

gypsy79 · 06-03-2021 10:56PM

nullzero wrote: »

Street pints were the biggest problem.

Please back that up. There is no evidence of outside transmission of this virus

Underground · 08-03-2021 11:05PM

Case numbers are heading the right way, by April 5th clocks will have gone forward and evenings will be brighter, the coldest of the weather gone.

Am I being too optimistic to hope for a gym workout in April? I didn't think I was but then read the posts here and well

JPup · 08-03-2021 11:16PM

nullzero wrote: »

Street pints were the biggest problem.

Surely lock-ins and house parties were a much bigger deal than people drinking outdoors?

nullzero · 09-03-2021 12:17AM

gypsy79 wrote: »

Please back that up. There is no evidence of outside transmission of this virus

Drinking in the streets normalised people engaging in socializing again, the issue of drinking and people feeling they were entitled to do as they pleased because it was coming up to Christmas fed into the huge numbers we saw post Christmas.

Lest we forget take away pints were perfectly acceptable during the October/November lockdown. I couldn't go to the gym to exercise on my own but huge crowds of idiots were allowed to congregate on the streets drinking take away pints into the wee small hours.

The issue isn't the transmission in the outdoor environment, it's to do with how alcohol and notions such as social distancing simply do not mix. The UK variant is supposedly airborne and in a situation where drunk people are getting too close to each other, even outdoors it leads to increased transmission.

Why exactly do you think the government stated take away pints should be stopped at the start of the year?

House parties and lock ins are worse, but drinking in the streets didn't help anything either and it was something supported by the government at the time.

JTMan · 09-03-2021 07:48AM

Underground wrote: »

Am I being too optimistic to hope for a gym workout in April? I didn't think I was but then read the posts here and well

I am hopeful of late April. Level 4 is inevitable on 5 April. The pressure from non-essential retail and gyms will start growing after that. Vaccination numbers will start to soar in April, case numbers and deaths will be on a rapid decent. Leo has said that restrictions will be reviewed in late April. The next obvious move at that stage is level 3 with non-essential retail and gyms reopen.

The UK are opening gyms on 12 April.

jrosen · 09-03-2021 11:06AM

Not a hope for April. Secondary schools only fully return mid way through April plus there would have been an easter break. I think the earliest we can hope for at this stage is early May.

basill · 09-03-2021 03:52PM

nullzero wrote: »

Street pints were the biggest problem.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-infection-rate-in-hospitals-out-of-control-1.4466463

At its peak you would have more chance of catching covid by being in hospital or a front line medical worker. There is a nice can of worms to be delved into in the future.

FlubberJones · 09-03-2021 04:41PM

I'm hoping soon... ANY time soon...

Tired of resistance bands, weary of the 6kg dumbbells that I can use only for a few exercise but end up doing countless reps.

And my joints after bodyweight HIIT sessions (wearing a 10kg vest) are aching constantly.

Just give me a flat / incline bench, a few decent dumbbells (max 35kg) and and an Olympic bar on a rack... That's it I'm good.

In other words, just open the gyms soon.

nullzero · 09-03-2021 05:08PM

basill wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-infection-rate-in-hospitals-out-of-control-1.4466463

At its peak you would have more chance of catching covid by being in hospital or a front line medical worker. There is a nice can of worms to be delved into in the future.

I would have thought that we would accept that to be self evident and removed from the responsibility of the average person in relation to spreading the virus.

rpurfield · 10-03-2021 11:24AM

FlubberJones wrote: »

I'm hoping soon... ANY time soon...

Tired of resistance bands, weary of the 6kg dumbbells that I can use only for a few exercise but end up doing countless reps.

And my joints after bodyweight HIIT sessions (wearing a 10kg vest) are aching constantly.

Just give me a flat / incline bench, a few decent dumbbells (max 35kg) and and an Olympic bar on a rack... That's it I'm good.

In other words, just open the gyms soon.

I have to agree. I'm enjoying running at the moment but I still think I need at least a half stone off me in weight and its going nowhere without some weights work. I've a set of kettlebells here in the house but I've lost interest in using them or doing bodyweight stuff. Having to stop regular to explain to the kids what you are at doesn't help either! It is really hard to get motivated to do the home stuff

Homesick Alien · 10-03-2021 12:11PM

I was delighted when the gyms reopened after the last lockdown but I became increasingly uncomfortable going. I'm in a flyefit so you had to sign up in advance for a session which was good but sometimes the place would be packed. Even though they're only supposed to be for individual training there was always a few groups of 3 or 4 lads standing together around benches and racks. I'd say only half the people going were actually wiping things down properly after use. And ultimately when you step back and think this is an indoor space with lots of people breathing heavily without masks, sweating and sharing equipment it made no sense to be there. They must be one of the riskiest places for spreading the virus. I stopped going after a month. I'm not saying I'll never go back to the gym but with it getting brighter and warmer there's even less of a reason to have to train indoors.

Gyms to Reopen 2021???

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