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  • #5642
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Oh dear lots of hysteria today on the forum. I guess that’s why we were lockdown winter 2019, 2018, 2017 right?

    But the difference is that a precedent has now been set. Varadkar said in an interview a few months ago that "we know what do with the flu now".


  • #5643
    SnuggyBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭SnuggyBear


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    FTFY

    Exactly. Some weridos will carry on with it but most people will go back normal quickly.


  • #5644
    VG31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,583 ✭✭✭VG31


    Scotty # wrote: »
    First thing you're told when you get vaccinated.. "now you're still going to have to wear your mask".

    The primary reason for that is you can't have vaccinated people going around not wearing masks. You'd inevitably have unvaccinated people claiming they'd got their vaccines to not have to wear a mask.

    Transmission looks to be drastically reduced so the scientific argument for wearing a mask after vaccination is limited.


  • #5645
    j@utis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭j@utis


    seansouth36 wrote: »
    People weren't wearing masks in restaurants or pubs last summer when there were no vaccines. Why in God's name would people be wearing masks in pubs/restaurants after this is over?

    Because last summer we didn't how much good mask wearing does, now we have that data, vaccines or not, masks are here to stay. Enjoy.


  • #5646
    Scotty #
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    VG31 wrote: »
    The primary reason for that is you can't have vaccinated people going around not wearing masks. You'd inevitably have unvaccinated people claiming they'd got their vaccines to not have to wear a mask.
    No... primary reason is you're not protected.


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  • #5647
    seansouth36
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭seansouth36


    Deleted User wrote: »
    People crossing the road to avoid walking past people on the footpath, elderly people who live alone wearing masks in their own home, people not having left the house once since March 2020. It will take those people a long time to recover in my opinion. It's not to be unhinged to hold that opinion.

    You know someone who lives alone and wears a mask when alone in the house and hasn't left their home since March last year? Or do you know "loads" of people who are doing that? Are you going from house to house looking in windows, or are you just making stuff up?


  • #5648
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,032 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Oh dear lots of hysteria today on the forum. I guess that’s why we were lockdown winter 2019, 2018, 2017 right?

    Such a trite answer tells me that you know full well that I am right but you are going to stand by your earlier posts anyway.

    It is obvious to all what has changed between now and then, so obvious that you couldn't not be aware of it.

    But for everybody else the point is simple and clear. Ireland locked down to "protect" its health service. Saying it won't happen again is just naïve.


  • #5649
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Deleted User wrote: »
    But the difference is that a precedent has now been set. Varadkar said in an interview a few months ago that "we know what do with the flu now".

    Do you honestly think businesses will be shut because of the flu every winter? It’s not going to happen, but dream on. I’d swear there are posters drooling at the thought lol


  • #5650
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,184 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    j@utis wrote: »
    Because last summer we didn't how much good mask wearing does, now we have that data, vaccines or not, masks are here to stay. Enjoy.

    What good does it do, absolutely none, if they worked it wouldn't be illegal to leave your house without a reasonable excuse. They're a cult symbol of soladarity with NPHET nothing more.


  • #5651
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,032 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    j@utis wrote: »
    Because last summer we didn't how much good mask wearing does, now we have that data, vaccines or not, masks are here to stay. Enjoy.

    What is that data? Can you link to it?

    What percentage does wearing a mask prevent transmission? 5%? 20%?

    Thanks in advance.


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  • #5652
    SnuggyBear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭SnuggyBear


    j@utis wrote: »
    Because last summer we didn't how much good mask wearing does, now we have that data, vaccines or not, masks are here to stay. Enjoy.

    Where is the data?


  • #5653
    seansouth36
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭seansouth36


    j@utis wrote: »
    Because last summer we didn't how much good mask wearing does, now we have that data, vaccines or not, masks are here to stay. Enjoy.

    I am not sure what you mean about "data" - last August for example, mask mandates were in place on public transport. I went to a number of pubs/restaurants that month and didn't see any customers wearing masks. Did you see people in a restaurant wearing a mask, and lowering their masks for each sip of their pint? You are welcome to enjoy your mask however you see fit of course.


  • #5654
    lalababa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭lalababa


    Today is March 5th...I thought we we due an announcement bout stuff??
    And maybe get thrown a bone....like travel in your own county...
    deckers..they keep changing the goalposts


  • #5655
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Such a trite answer tells me that you know full well that I am right but you are going to stand by your earlier posts anyway.

    It is obvious to all what has changed between now and then, so obvious that you couldn't not be aware of it.

    But for everybody else the point is simple and clear. Ireland locked down to "protect" its health service. Saying it won't happen again is just naïve.


    No i don’t think you are right. I think you are neurotic, delusion, hysterical and plain wrong. This is coming to an end. Get used to it.


  • #5656
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    lalababa wrote: »
    Today is March 5th...I thought we we due an announcement bout stuff??
    And maybe get thrown a bone....like travel in your own county...
    deckers..they keep changing the goalposts

    April 5th.


  • #5657
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,184 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    lalababa wrote: »
    Today is March 5th...I thought we we due an announcement bout stuff??
    And maybe get thrown a bone....like travel in your own county...
    deckers..they keep changing the goalposts

    Yes surprised the media haven't said a peep about it, they'll probably give construction a break, 5k rule has to stay no matter what, they're terrified to it could cause numbers at protests to sky rocket.


  • #5658
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Yes surprised the media haven't said a peep about it, they'll probably give construction a break, 5k rule has to stay no matter what, they're terrified to it could cause numbers at protests to sky rocket.

    The construction sector has launched a legal challenge against the M of Health over the restrictions that have closed over 60% of the sector. Report in the Indo.


  • #5659
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    j@utis wrote: »
    Because last summer we didn't how much good mask wearing does, now we have that data, vaccines or not, masks are here to stay. Enjoy.

    The Hell it is. One I'm vaccinated I'm not wearing them anymore. The NPCs can get stuffed.


  • #5660
    Scotty #
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    The Hell it is. One I'm vaccinated I'm not wearing them anymore. The NPCs can get stuffed.
    People are either part of the problem or part of the solution. We know where you stand.


  • #5661
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    The Hell it is. One I'm vaccinated I'm not wearing them anymore. The NPCs can get stuffed.


    I think as a courtesy i’ll maintain mask wearing even if I’m vaccinated until the masses are done.


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  • #5662
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,032 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    No i don’t think you are right. I think you are neurotic, delusion, hysterical and plain wrong. This is coming to an end. Get used to it.

    Again you have nothing to add that rebuts the point made, just personal insults and bluster, that says it all really.

    NPHET shut the country down to protect the hospitals. It happened, simple logic says it could happen again. Get used to it.


  • #5663
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Again you have nothing to add that rebuts the point made, just personal insults and bluster, that says it all really.

    NPHET shut the country down to protect the hospitals. It happened, simple logic says it could happen again. Get used to it.

    The government on the advice of Nphet shut the country. I know it's confusing to some but Nphet don't run the country but at present are a convenient 'mudflap' for incompetent politicians.


  • #5664
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    Scotty # wrote: »
    People are either part of the problem or part of the solution. We know where you stand.

    Anyone dumb enough to keep wearing them once they're vaccinated is part of the problem.


  • #5665
    VG31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,583 ✭✭✭VG31


    Scotty # wrote: »
    No... primary reason is you're not protected.

    Only until 2-3 weeks after your vaccination.


  • #5666
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Again you have nothing to add that rebuts the point made, just personal insults and bluster, that says it all really.

    NPHET shut the country down to protect the hospitals. It happened, simple logic says it could happen again. Get used to it.

    Nope, you are waffling on about something that won’t happen in a vaccinated world. There’s nothing to add plain and simple. If you think business will be shut down every winter you’re in for a rude awakening. MM has said himself once you open up it will be permanent no going back this time.


  • #5667
    Scotty #
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    The construction sector has launched a legal challenge against the M of Health over the restrictions that have closed over 60% of the sector. Report in the Indo.
    I think it's one company rather than 'sector'.

    I pass 5 or 6 sites on my commute. All are housing and all are open.

    Think they're right though. Can't see the logic of them being closed with indoor factories with massive staff are still open.


  • #5668
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,184 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    MM has said himself once you open up it will be permanent no going back.

    Come on how many lies have we been told so far by our Government, how can you still trust one word out of their mouths.
    We're having a lockdown to avoid having a lockdown.:confused:


  • #5669
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Scotty # wrote: »
    I think it's one company rather than 'sector'.

    They have the backing of the construction federation. You hardly think thousands of builders were going to launch a challenge? It is only necessary for one to challenge the law that applies to the majority.


  • #5670
    Scotty #
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    Anyone dumb enough to keep wearing them once they're vaccinated is part of the problem.
    How on earth is it dumb to want to protect your health? Honestly, what a moronic post!


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  • #5671
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    Nope, you are waffling on about something that won’t happen in a vaccinated world. There’s nothing to add plain and simple. If you think business will be shut down every winter you’re in for a rude awakening. MM has said himself once you open up it will be permanent no going back this time.

    He also said "2 weeks to flatten the curve" a year ago.


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