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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #3182
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    timmyntc wrote: »
    We don't need 1.8m done to start opening up.
    All we need are over 75s and those with medical conditions that leave them vulnerable.
    Very low hospital numbers as well.


  • #3183
    SeaMermaid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭SeaMermaid


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    What are we likely to do, reopen now we have cases down to 300, have a summer, and then shut down again for Fall, Winter and Spring.
    Are we that stupid, or will we actually do it right his time around?

    The key for a successful reopening will be to get the covid cases and transmissions in communities down low so that it gives the virus less chances to transmit.


  • #3184
    Coybig_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭Coybig_


    SeaMermaid wrote: »
    The key for a successful reopening will be to get the covid cases and transmissions in communities down low so that it gives the virus less chances to transmit.

    Transmission without hospitalisation is irrelevant. Cases will soon become a completely defunct measurement.


  • #3185
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    SeaMermaid wrote: »
    The key for a successful reopening will be to get the covid cases and transmissions in communities down low so that it gives the virus less chances to transmit.

    The virus is endemic - its not going away for years if at all.
    Once we are vaccinated though there will be next to no risk from covid-19, so it doesnt matter if we have 1000 cases or 10 cases, the impact will be negligible.

    As the vaccinations of priority groups continues, we should start opening up bit by bit as the overall risk from covid decreases and decreases.


  • #3186
    OwenM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭OwenM


    timmyntc wrote: »
    We don't need 1.8m done to start opening up.
    All we need are over 75s and those with medical conditions that leave them vulnerable.

    Over 65's and vulnerable would be my take, about 1 million.


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  • #3187
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,653 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    OwenM wrote: »
    Over 65's and vulnerable would be my take, about 1 million.

    800,000 is a lot less.


  • #3188
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    In Poland, 15,250 new cases were reported on Thursday, the highest since the previous peak in November, up 26% from the number of new cases reported seven days ago


  • #3189
    Probes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Probes


    timmyntc wrote: »
    We don't need 1.8m done to start opening up.
    All we need are over 75s and those with medical conditions that leave them vulnerable.

    Not sure that’s true, look how long it’s taking Israel to curb infections, hospitalisation and deaths.


  • #3190
    Ha Long Bay
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  • #3191
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    552 swabs out of 14244 - 3.88%

    Looking good. 7-day down to 4.15%


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  • #3192
    um7y1h83ge06nx
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    This is pretty disappointing and will only prolong the restrictions. I feel the people that are adhering to the restrictions are "subsidizing" people like those below and keeping the overall numbers quite low. Some people are only doing the minimum essentials outside their homes, others are going on foreign holidays and having big street parties.

    https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/614533/number-of-covid-19-cases-linked-to-limerick-student-outbreak-approaches-300.html
    THERE are now almost 300 cases of Covid-19 linked to Limerick’s student outbreak, it’s been revealed.

    Information released to the Limerick Leader from Public Health Mid-West this lunchtime shows that as of today, there are 279 confirmed cases associated with this.

    Separately, Public Health Mid-West has said it’s “disappointed” with what it has described as a “serious breach” of Covid-19 guidelines – but acknowledged it represented “a minority of the local student population.”


  • #3193
    Plumbthedepths
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    460 confirmed cases in hospital of that number 107 are in ICU.


  • #3194
    newuser99999
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    Cedric Lazy Stint wrote: »
    This is pretty disappointing and will only prolong the restrictions. I feel the people that are adhering to the restrictions are "subsidizing" people like those below and keeping the overall numbers quite low. Some people are only doing the minimum essentials outside their homes, others are going on foreign holidays and having big street parties.

    https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/614533/number-of-covid-19-cases-linked-to-limerick-student-outbreak-approaches-300.html

    So around 1 percent of Limerick’s third level population. Talk about blowing things out of proportion.


  • #3195
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    460 confirmed cases in hospital of that number 107 are in ICU.
    We could see 100 broken very soon in ICU. It will be nice to see it back in 2 digits again.


  • #3196
    um7y1h83ge06nx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    newuser99999 wrote: »
    So around 1 percent of Limerick’s third level population. Talk about blowing things out of proportion.

    Not having a swipe solely at students but it's still a needless number of cases all the same surely?


  • #3197
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Bit more context to the cases, encouraging week. Hopefully more good news on vaccines nxt week. J & J and maybe Sputnik might be approved in the EU

    https://twitter.com/andrewflood/status/1367511320556355584


  • #3198
    Plumbthedepths
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    newuser99999 wrote: »
    So around 1 percent of Limerick’s third level population. Talk about blowing things out of proportion.

    Got to blame someone. Foreign travel has been dealt with ( although RA opening routes from Belfast should be fun) so back to blaming the young.
    Someone earlier was blaming a rise in cases due to the schools being back, opened with limited numbers on Monday just past. People would want to cop on to themselves.


  • #3199
    bennyineire
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    Probes wrote: »
    Not sure that’s true, look how long it’s taking Israel to curb infections, hospitalisation and deaths.

    3 months and we are starting from a much lower base. 2 months from now things will look far better than they are now and right now we are seeing a rapid improvement in the hospital numbers


  • #3200
    seamus
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    ICU seems to be dropping faster than I expected, and it's not down to deaths. I wonder is the low # of ICU admissions a reflection of the at-risk cohorts having been vaccinated?


  • #3201
    [Deleted User]
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    seamus wrote: »
    ICU seems to be dropping faster than I expected, and it's not down to deaths. I wonder is the low # of ICU admissions a reflection of the at-risk cohorts having been vaccinated?

    By and large the over 85's weren't ending up in ICU though


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  • #3202
    newuser99999
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    Cedric Lazy Stint wrote: »
    Not having a swipe solely at students but it's still a needless number of cases all the same surely?

    It would be great if no one got it we wouldn’t be in this situation.

    A huge number of students make up retail and hospital staff.

    Why are you shaming them for getting covid?


  • #3203
    um7y1h83ge06nx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Got to blame someone. Foreign travel has been dealt with ( although RA opening routes from Belfast should be fun) so back to blaming the young.
    Someone earlier was blaming a rise in cases due to the schools being back, opened with limited numbers on Monday just past. People would want to cop on to themselves.

    I was only using that as a single example, didn't realise making people accountable for their actions would be so sensitive a topic.

    Me, students etc. we'll all adults and should be held to account.


  • #3204
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    seamus wrote: »
    I think you meant, "Who care about improving test and trace"?

    3 months ago from today was the 4th of December.

    Think about everything that has happened in those 3 months.

    3 months from now is the 4th of June. By then we might have 50% fully vaccinated.

    So think about what can still happen in the next 3 months. Our response to this needs to remain as robust as it has been, if not moreso.

    That's a good point. And who'd have thought the 3 weeks of hospitality and a "meaningful' Christmas would have resulted in so many deaths & job loses and potentially 6 months under restrictions? Whoever did think that at the time were dismissed as quacks and idiots.

    But yeah a lot to be positive in coming three months if our vaccine delivery schedule is ever met.

    https://twitter.com/RTENewsAtOne/status/1367462963997782016?s=20


  • #3205
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    seamus wrote: »
    ICU seems to be dropping faster than I expected, and it's not down to deaths. I wonder is the low # of ICU admissions a reflection of the at-risk cohorts having been vaccinated?

    I would suspect HCW being vaccinated has played a large part in driving down numbers. People have gone to hospital as a non Covid patient , contracted the virus and I know of one person who ended up in ICU after contracting it in hospital. He went in with a heart issue. I only learned yesterday this is what happened to a former colleague of mine.


  • #3206
    Plumbthedepths
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    Cedric Lazy Stint wrote: »
    I was only using that as a single example, didn't realise making people accountable for their actions would be so sensitive a topic.

    Me, students etc. we'll all adults and should be held to account.
    Sensitive ? not at all, I haven't seen the same outrage displayed on the media about large gatherings in graveyards or religious gatherings either. Students however are fair game it seems.


  • #3207
    um7y1h83ge06nx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Sensitive ? not at all, I haven't seen the same outrage displayed on the media about large gatherings in graveyards or religious gatherings either. Students however are fair game it seems.

    I'm with you there, that party in the graveyard was a disgrace. And big crowds at funerals etc is plain ridiculous too. All adults and all should be held accountable just like everyone else.


  • #3208
    seamus
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    By and large the over 85's weren't ending up in ICU though
    Indeed, I thought of that as I was typing.

    So I dunno. Could it be the HCW? If they're vaccinated, there's less (if zero) cross-infection in hospitals, which will result in ~40% fewer Covid cases in hospital.


  • #3209
    Scuid Mhór
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    seamus wrote: »
    ICU seems to be dropping faster than I expected, and it's not down to deaths. I wonder is the low # of ICU admissions a reflection of the at-risk cohorts having been vaccinated?

    Probably a knock on effect of two months’ worth of restrictions; less people entering ICU in the last six weeks.


  • #3210
    Scuid Mhór
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I would suspect HCW being vaccinated has played a large part in driving down numbers. People have gone to hospital as a non Covid patient , contracted the virus and I know of one person who ended up in ICU after contracting it in hospital. He went in with a heart issue. I only learned yesterday this is what happened to a former colleague of mine.

    HCW?


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  • #3211
    DOCARCH
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    Scuid Mhór wrote: »
    HCW?

    Health Care Worker.


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