WandaVision - Disney+ (***Spoilers***)

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Also, anyone else suspicious of the rabbit? Sort of feel like he's a character in disguise.... I may be losing it..

I just assumed a witches familiar

I had a bizarre thought. Someone said a while ago that it wouldn’t make sense for Fox’s Quicksilver to be in Wandavision anyway because he was a teenager in the 70’s and this is set in 2023. But.... didn’t he appear in Wandavision in the 80’s sitcom era so........ yeah it’s a stretch.

I don’t want Fox’s Quicksilver in the MCU but it would be cool if they acknowledged that this version of him was pulled in from a multiverse version of Pietro. I still think it might happen.

I think it’s pretty certain that the rabbit is not a rabbit. I’m not saying it’s a person, but it could easily be a snake or something. Changing one animal into another and then having the rabbit devour it was some not so subtle hinting.

Going into the last episode I think they had too many red hearings in this.

There’s too many lose ends to tie up. It’s gonna be a big task to close everything out satisfyingly with about 40m of storytelling left.

iguana wrote: »

I was kind of disappointed by this episode. I felt that it totally did away with the best twists in the previous episodes like Fox universe Pietro and it being "Agatha All Along." Fox universe Pietro appearing was the first main introduction of the multiverse, which we know is coming. I grew up as an enormous X-Men comic fan and I hated the Fox X-Men movies. But I loved the twist of Evan Peters appearing as Pietro. I never took it to be a sign that the X-Men coming to the MCU would in any way be the Fox X-Men just an acknowledgement that those movies existed and the Pietro was the one character who'd appeared in both. If he's really just a random Westview resident that Agatha cast a spell on to think he was Pietro, that's extremely disappointing.

As mentioned by someone else, the random resident angle doesn't explain his powers. They've also start ticking off some of the earlier adverts in that episode, I doubt they never touch on Nexus. If they confirm that it is just a random resident then it kills X-Men multiverse cross-over, which would be my preference.

This episode also spoiled last weeks reveal about Agatha. It wasn't her all along. She had nothing to do with any of it and is just as clueless as anyone. I always like Agatha, from her first days as Franklin Richards' nanny, so I'm happy for her not to be a villain. But that she's just a clueless witch who 'all along' was just bumbling about trying to find out what was going on, is also disappointing.

This seems more like you took a huge jump of what 'all along' meant. They even gave a montage of her actions, that didn't include her creating the Hex. What she was 'all along' involved in was causing everything that was going wrong for Wanda in the Hex, resulting in her to become more and more isolated from Vision so Agatha could see how it would impact the Hex and get her away from Vision.

This episode also just goes reverts to backing up what we saw from the end of episode two, Wanda is responsible for everything happening in Westview because she is grieving.

Presumably next week, we'll find out that's not actually true and Hayward somehow engineered the whole thing. He was clearly needling her by showing her Vision being dismantled as he wanted her to resurrect him. He even told her that she had the power to do that and was watching her with anticipation as she took in the view of him in pieces. I'm assuming that he was responsible for putting the deed to the plot for the house in Westview in her car and when she arrived some external force he arranged/knew about triggered her to hex the whole town. So presumably next week, things will get more complex again but this week really took the complexity that had been building up and wiped a lot of it away.

Isn't this what all mystery shows do to the audience, twisting them back and forth? They pointed to grief and then that Wanda might be doing it maliciously, despite how much it was hurting others, now they show she didn't have anything to do with it and in some cases the residents seem happier than their life before. Hayward doing more bad stuff wouldn't be a shock at all

As far as taking away mystery or complexity, they still have an enormous amount to cover in the last episode (or last two if rumours are true). It would be crazy to not start to narrow down some angles.

Beginning to think we may have over-thought the plot in this. Might not be the clever introduction of the x-men /F4 /mephisto many of us believed during the last few weeks.

Just as likely that Agatha is the big bad, that all the magic types mixing has just got out of hand and the only "big" appearance will be Dr Strange appearing to try and clean up the mess, with the finale or end credit scene briefly setting up/hinting at the multiverse of madness or another Marvel show.

There was so much speculation overall it'd have been a clusterf*ck to wrap it all up. That being said, there was legitimate threads being shown by Marvel, which I'm sure will payoff eventually.

I hope we get some payoff for Pietro, I don't believe Marvel would use that actor with that character as a troll move.

Fingers crossed for a strange appearance tomorrow. 😇

I really disagree with the idea that casting Evan Peters as Fake Pietro was a troll move. There was never any indication whatsoever that he was actually the Fox version of Pietro, and straight off the bat Darcy said "She recast Pietro?"

It's a nod, a wink, a reference. It's a fan-service joke that we as the audience get, but just because people choose to read too much into it and it ends up not meaning what they presumed it did doesn't make it "trolling".

Foxtrol wrote: »

Similar to the Agatha reveal last week, I simply don't see how this episode hits without the earlier episodes to build out the story. It only worked so well because we saw her and Vision happily living out their sitcom lives, it wouldn't have been the same if everything went to crap on day 1. You need to earn good reveals.

The first 3 episodes were sitcom filler.
You could easily have scrapped 1 of those and still had the same emotional impact.

Foxtrol wrote: »

If it ends up being nothing it points to them having decided to kill the theory that the Fox X-Men universe characters being in their 'multiverse' and that they could at some point come over to the MCU. That alone makes it more than a pure troll.

That however doesn't align with all the rumours regarding the upcoming Spider-man bringing back old characters. Wandavision also advertising the Nexus and having Pietro there is a bit too coincidental for my liking.

Spider-Man is a separate beast though because it's owned and made by Sony in conjunction with Marvel. Sony already have the Spider-Verse and the casting rumours reek of Sony decision making, they've wanted their own Spider-Man cinematic universe since before the initial deal with Marvel, the AG movies were heavily setting up a Sinister Six spinoff that going to be written by Drew Goddard iirc and they had even announced plans for a Black Cat and a Silver Sable movie.

Penn wrote: »

I really disagree with the idea that casting Evan Peters as Fake Pietro was a troll move. There was never any indication whatsoever that he was actually the Fox version of Pietro, and straight off the bat Darcy said "She recast Pietro?"

It's a nod, a wink, a reference. It's a fan-service joke that we as the audience get, but just because people choose to read too much into it and it ends up not meaning what they presumed it did doesn't make it "trolling".

To me this just reads like a defence for what would be a blatant bait-and-switch to their audience. They knew what they were doing when they did it. If by taking this approach, their finale fizzles out like a wet fart, then they have to own the consequences of promising much and delivering little. Wagging a finger at the fans and saying 'it's your fault for getting your hopes up' won't wash.

Foxtrol wrote: »

In the 3rd episode they introduced 2 well known and key characters, who may continue in the MCU, and also broke the bubble of what was happening outside the Hex. That is hardly filler.

You're entitled to not enjoy it but if you don't have the patience for 2 episodes of character and world building, totaling less than an hour of viewing and each including several moments that provide payoffs later, then a lot of TV simply isn't for you.

Less of the condescending attitude please, I have plenty of patience and like slow burning shows especially dark gritty ones.

The first 3 episodes aped every sitcom cliche, but had genuine fun with almost none of them, and weren't in any way funny.
It was genre-surfing as a sort of filler, a sketch that lasts half an hour but without any laughs, just to get to the few hints in each episode as to what really is going on.