OU812 wrote: » Did we see the body? Standard Hollywood rules, no body = no death & you don't kill the dog !
FunLover18 wrote: » It did eat a bird which isn't usual rabbit behaviour AFAIK.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Also, anyone else suspicious of the rabbit? Sort of feel like he's a character in disguise.... I may be losing it..
kerplun k wrote: » Going into the last episode I think they had too many red hearings in this. There’s too many lose ends to tie up. It’s gonna be a big task to close everything out satisfyingly with about 40m of storytelling left.
GSPfan wrote: » I don’t want Fox’s Quicksilver in the MCU but it would be cool if they acknowledged that this version of him was pulled in from a multiverse version of Pietro. I still think it might happen.
iguana wrote: » I was kind of disappointed by this episode. I felt that it totally did away with the best twists in the previous episodes like Fox universe Pietro and it being "Agatha All Along." Fox universe Pietro appearing was the first main introduction of the multiverse, which we know is coming. I grew up as an enormous X-Men comic fan and I hated the Fox X-Men movies. But I loved the twist of Evan Peters appearing as Pietro. I never took it to be a sign that the X-Men coming to the MCU would in any way be the Fox X-Men just an acknowledgement that those movies existed and the Pietro was the one character who'd appeared in both. If he's really just a random Westview resident that Agatha cast a spell on to think he was Pietro, that's extremely disappointing.
This episode also spoiled last weeks reveal about Agatha. It wasn't her all along. She had nothing to do with any of it and is just as clueless as anyone. I always like Agatha, from her first days as Franklin Richards' nanny, so I'm happy for her not to be a villain. But that she's just a clueless witch who 'all along' was just bumbling about trying to find out what was going on, is also disappointing.
This episode also just goes reverts to backing up what we saw from the end of episode two, Wanda is responsible for everything happening in Westview because she is grieving. Presumably next week, we'll find out that's not actually true and Hayward somehow engineered the whole thing. He was clearly needling her by showing her Vision being dismantled as he wanted her to resurrect him. He even told her that she had the power to do that and was watching her with anticipation as she took in the view of him in pieces. I'm assuming that he was responsible for putting the deed to the plot for the house in Westview in her car and when she arrived some external force he arranged/knew about triggered her to hex the whole town. So presumably next week, things will get more complex again but this week really took the complexity that had been building up and wiped a lot of it away.
Zardoz wrote: » The best episode of the series by a distance. They could have made 2 episodes out of that content and cut one or 2 of the earlier goofball sitcom episodes.
Foxtrol wrote: » Similar to the Agatha reveal last week, I simply don't see how this episode hits without the earlier episodes to build out the story. It only worked so well because we saw her and Vision happily living out their sitcom lives, it wouldn't have been the same if everything went to crap on day 1. You need to earn good reveals.
paulbok wrote: » Beginning to think we may have over-thought the plot in this. Might not be the clever introduction of the x-men /F4 /mephisto many of us believed during the last few weeks. Just as likely that Agatha is the big bad, that all the magic types mixing has just got out of hand and the only "big" appearance will be Dr Strange appearing to try and clean up the mess, with the finale or end credit scene briefly setting up/hinting at the multiverse of madness or another Marvel show.
Penn wrote: » I really disagree with the idea that casting Evan Peters as Fake Pietro was a troll move. There was never any indication whatsoever that he was actually the Fox version of Pietro, and straight off the bat Darcy said "She recast Pietro?" It's a nod, a wink, a reference. It's a fan-service joke that we as the audience get, but just because people choose to read too much into it and it ends up not meaning what they presumed it did doesn't make it "trolling".
Foxtrol wrote: » If it ends up being nothing it points to them having decided to kill the theory that the Fox X-Men universe characters being in their 'multiverse' and that they could at some point come over to the MCU. That alone makes it more than a pure troll. That however doesn't align with all the rumours regarding the upcoming Spider-man bringing back old characters. Wandavision also advertising the Nexus and having Pietro there is a bit too coincidental for my liking.
Zardoz wrote: » The first 3 episodes were sitcom filler. You could easily have scrapped 1 of those and still had the same emotional impact.
FunLover18 wrote: » Spider-Man is a separate beast though because it's owned and made by Sony in conjunction with Marvel. Sony already have the Spider-Verse and the casting rumours reek of Sony decision making, they've wanted their own Spider-Man cinematic universe since before the initial deal with Marvel, the AG movies were heavily setting up a Sinister Six spinoff that going to be written by Drew Goddard iirc and they had even announced plans for a Black Cat and a Silver Sable movie.
Foxtrol wrote: » In the 3rd episode they introduced 2 well known and key characters, who may continue in the MCU, and also broke the bubble of what was happening outside the Hex. That is hardly filler. You're entitled to not enjoy it but if you don't have the patience for 2 episodes of character and world building, totaling less than an hour of viewing and each including several moments that provide payoffs later, then a lot of TV simply isn't for you.
Foxtrol wrote: » I do get those significant differences, however the MCU has for the most part been built in a very consistent way that is relatively easy to understand by the audience. I just don't see them trying to sell both: - All the stuff that happened in other Spider-Man movies produced by another studio that they don't have the rights to happened in their wider MCU multi-verse - Nothing that happened in other X-Men movies produced by another studio that they now have the rights to happened in their wider MCU multi-verse I especially don't see them doing the above while also inserting an X-Men character as Pietro into Wandavision as just a throwaway nod to the audience - making things even more confusing. I really want the old X-Men universe to stay dead but at this point from going off previous MCU approaches I'm not confident
Mr.Nice Guy wrote: » To me this just reads like a defence for what would be a blatant bait-and-switch to their audience. They knew what they were doing when they did it. If by taking this approach, their finale fizzles out like a wet fart, then they have to own the consequences of promising much and delivering little. Wagging a finger at the fans and saying 'it's your fault for getting your hopes up' won't wash.
Zardoz wrote: » Less of the condescending attitude please, I have plenty of patience and like slow burning shows especially dark gritty ones. The first 3 episodes aped every sitcom cliche, but had genuine fun with almost none of them, and weren't in any way funny. It was genre-surfing as a sort of filler, a sketch that lasts half an hour but without any laughs, just to get to the few hints in each episode as to what really is going on.
pjohnson wrote: » If the MCU wanted a brand new Pietro theres literally hundreds of actors they could choose. Just off the top of my head Grant Gustin (Arrowverse Flash), Ezra Miller (DCU Flash) would be amusing 4th Wall breaking winks regarding speedsters. Not casting Evan Peters would NOT have been seen as an odd choice and rather just immediately distancing from any possible links to the Fox-version. By specifically choosing arguably the most recognisable actor from the recent Fox-Verse movies (Peters*) whose character (Quicksilver) was responsible for the two standout scenes in two Fox Movies to play another character called Quicksilver and NOT expect fans to think there is a connection is hilarious. Especially considering Mavel now owns the X-Men again. If they didn't own them then they might get away with casting him as a "New" Pietro since mutants wouldn't be possible. But yeah they knew exactly what they were doing. Heck, they could have even cast Peters as Mephisto (an early "leak" claimed that was the case) and no one would have been trying to link MCU Mephisto to Fox Quicksilver. He could even still make quips/quote his Fox character and people would see it as being a wink and nod. There was plenty of avenues that wasnt just trolling the fanbase for both a "new" Pietro and casting Evan Peters. They picked the ONE that would inevitably annoy a large part of the fanbase. It worked in that it raised up a lot of attention for the show and clickbait but it was a shítty stunt. *I say Peters is the most recognisable because I highly doubt Fassbender, MacAvoy or Lawrence would be gettable budget-wise.
