Virgin 1Gb now available.

LoGiE · 07-02-2021 04:27PM

schmoo2k wrote: »

When running a speed test over Wi-Fi (with a 1GB connection) you're not testing your broadbands raw speed, but rather testing your Wi-Fi capabilities.

(I suspect LoGIE knows this, but more a reminder for some others...)

Yep, that's it exactly. I've found nPerf useful as it can basically tell me what standard I've connected at (n/ac/ax), which in turn basically tells me if I'm connecting to my closest AP. To get the best picture of the speeds you're getting from you ISP you really should be wired to the router though.

You have to wonder how many folks are losing their rag over their broadband being slow or not getting the speeds they've been sold because of their own equipment. The router supplied by VM is not capable of delivering the 1Gb speeds wirelessly end of the story.

When I was using Netgear Orbi's I was seeing wifi 5 (ac) speeds of 620Mbps - 650Mbps which was fantastic and about 910Mbps on the router.

Using my UDM Pro and U6-Lite/U6-LR I am seeing wifi 6 (ax) speeds hitting 836Mbps on my ax devices and 974Mbps on the router.

If you want to see higher connection speeds wirelessly you're going to have to upgrade the equipment in your home.

ED E · 07-02-2021 05:22PM

LoGiE wrote: »

You have to wonder how many folks are losing their rag over their broadband being slow or not getting the speeds they've been sold because of their own equipment. The router supplied by VM is not capable of delivering the 1Gb speeds wirelessly end of the story.

We've seen quite a few posts here with just that. Old 2013 gear with N300 WLAN adapters or DELLs with Smartbyte. You can bet if we've seen 10 posts VMs helpdesk is seeing thousands of calls. Same for the FTTH OLOs.

S.E.A.L.s · 09-02-2021 04:47AM

allanroche · 09-02-2021 12:08PM

ED E wrote: »

We've seen quite a few posts here with just that. Old 2013 gear with N300 WLAN adapters or DELLs with Smartbyte. You can bet if we've seen 10 posts VMs helpdesk is seeing thousands of calls. Same for the FTTH OLOs.

My equipment is an Edgerouter 4 and two access points wired throughout the house. My issue is not so much with the download speeds varying so much, I can cope with that that, it's the latency I experience and my terrible upload speed that can be crippling at times.

For example, here is my speed test just this minute from Blacknight https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/279313210

I will point out that's wired and through the Speedtest app

slith · 27-02-2021 08:10PM

Does anyone know how to get the VM Hub 2.0 into modem mode? I got mine installed early January and before the engineer installed it I plugged it in myself to have a look, I was delighted to see a modem mode option as I have my own mesh system that I'm very happy about.

So, engineer did his job and after he left I checked the router admin page just to find that I cannot, for the life of me, find the modem mode option again.

Really annoying because now I am in a double NAT. I could change my mesh system into being an AP-only, but I would lose many of the extra features of the mesh system...

La Haine · 27-02-2021 09:30PM

You probably need to ring Virgin and have them switch you to IPV4.

slith · 28-02-2021 01:13AM

La Haine wrote: »

You probably need to ring Virgin and have them switch you to IPV4.

Is that what is blocking the modem mode?

Any major drawbacks of reverting to ipv4?

La Haine · 28-02-2021 07:23AM

slith wrote: »

Is that what is blocking the modem mode?

Any major drawbacks of reverting to ipv4?

IPv4 uses a 32-bit address for its Internet addresses. ... IPv6 utilizes 128-bit Internet addresses. Therefore, it can support 2^128 Internet addresses—340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 of them to be exact. The number of IPv6 addresses is 1028 times larger than the number of IPv4 addresses.

pizzahead77 · 28-02-2021 12:35PM

slith wrote: »

Is that what is blocking the modem mode?

Any major drawbacks of reverting to ipv4?

No, there's no drawbacks of reverting to ipv4 - it gives you more flexability in the modem

slith · 28-02-2021 05:18PM

pizzahead77 wrote: »

No, there's no drawbacks of reverting to ipv4 - it gives you more flexability in the modem

I bit the bullet and switched my own mesh to AP-only, no work from home on a Sunday so best day to ruin my network. I had assumed my port-forwarding woes were related to the fact that I had a double NAT. But I was wrong.

- I still cannot get port forwarding to work (does anyone know what the 'IP and port filtering' section is for?)
- Cannot properly configure the VM Modem DHCP server, nor turn the DHCPv6 off.

I guess I'll be moving to IPv4. I wonder why the modem is so restricted in IPv6 mode.

ED E · 28-02-2021 11:53PM

La Haine wrote: »

IPv4 uses a 32-bit address for its Internet addresses. ... IPv6 utilizes 128-bit Internet addresses. Therefore, it can support 2^128 Internet addresses—340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 of them to be exact. The number of IPv6 addresses is 1028 times larger than the number of IPv4 addresses.

10/10 for answering the wrong question.

ED E · 28-02-2021 11:55PM

slith wrote: »

I bit the bullet and switched my own mesh to AP-only, no work from home on a Sunday so best day to ruin my network. I had assumed my port-forwarding woes were related to the fact that I had a double NAT. But I was wrong.

- I still cannot get port forwarding to work (does anyone know what the 'IP and port filtering' section is for?)
- Cannot properly configure the VM Modem DHCP server, nor turn the DHCPv6 off.

I guess I'll be moving to IPv4. I wonder why the modem is so restricted in IPv6 mode.

Its not in IPv6 mode, its in DSLite mode. You share one IPv4 address with with n other customers . Saves VM a few cents and cripples your connection.

allanroche wrote: »

My equipment is an Edgerouter 4 and two access points wired throughout the house. My issue is not so much with the download speeds varying so much, I can cope with that that, it's the latency I experience and my terrible upload speed that can be crippling at times.

Weird, I wonder if they allocated all the channels to DS and left US starved. 1GB DOCSIS is a bit of a stretch so wouldnt be shocking.

johndanielmoore · 01-03-2021 01:53AM

La Haine wrote: »

IPv4 uses a 32-bit address for its Internet addresses. ... IPv6 utilizes 128-bit Internet addresses. Therefore, it can support 2^128 Internet addresses—340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 of them to be exact. The number of IPv6 addresses is 1028 times larger than the number of IPv4 addresses.

Your maths is out.
2^128 = 2^32*2^96
Therefore IPv6 is 2^96(79,228,162,514,264,337,593,543,950,336) times larger than the number of IPv4 address

CoBo55 · 01-03-2021 10:56AM

@slith never mind the lads here rubbing their ego's, as was advised earlier contact VM and ask to be changed to an ipv4 ip, if the router is broadcasting that horizon wi free or whatever it's called ask for that to be disabled too. I did it through the chat service. Make sure to follow the modem reset procedure accurately, it took me a few stabs to get it to show modem mode.

allanroche · 01-03-2021 12:26PM

ED E wrote: »

Weird, I wonder if they allocated all the channels to DS and left US starved. 1GB DOCSIS is a bit of a stretch so wouldnt be shocking.

Genuinely starting to believe this. Every few evenings now and almost every Wednesday like clockwork between 8pm to 11pm my connection seems to drop to 200 down and 15 up. No amount of restarts fixes it and talking to neighbours it seems to be widespread in the area with most using their own equipment.

I have called VM a couple of times about it but they refuse to even engage let alone check the lines if you're in modem mode.

Consonata · 01-03-2021 01:08PM

Having a hellish time with Eir, so we're looking at shifting over to VM. Do VM operate on different lines to Eir, in which case is there a chance we could gigabit with them that we couldn't get with Eir?

Spear · 01-03-2021 01:41PM

Consonata wrote: »

Having a hellish time with Eir, so we're looking at shifting over to VM. Do VM operate on different lines to Eir, in which case is there a chance we could gigabit with them that we couldn't get with Eir?

VM use their own cable network, not the phone lines. So no overlap at all.

slith · 01-03-2021 02:30PM

CoBo55 wrote: »

@slith never mind the lads here rubbing their ego's, as was advised earlier contact VM and ask to be changed to an ipv4 ip, if the router is broadcasting that horizon wi free or whatever it's called ask for that to be disabled too. I did it through the chat service. Make sure to follow the modem reset procedure accurately, it took me a few stabs to get it to show modem mode.

Hehe, thanks.

Yeah, I turned off the Wifi (and wifree) in the VM modem early on. Since I'll go modem-only I am guessing all wifi capabilities will be gone, wifree as well.

deravarra · 01-03-2021 04:15PM

apologies for coming in on this - but has the 1gb service now improved? Especially with the Hub2 modem?
At the start, lots of people in this thread were having issues. Have all of those been resolved?
I am tempted to jump to 1gbps but wouldn't bother if the service isnt stable

schmoo2k · 01-03-2021 04:23PM

deravarra wrote: »

apologies for coming in on this - but has the 1gb service now improved? Especially with the Hub2 modem?
At the start, lots of people in this thread were having issues. Have all of those been resolved?
I am tempted to jump to 1gbps but wouldn't bother if the service isnt stable

Once I switched to modem mode I have been happy...

deravarra · 01-03-2021 07:58PM

schmoo2k wrote: »

Once I switched to modem mode I have been happy...

no or little downtime?

With me working from home a lot, I would need a very stable connection. I cannot be spending ages to get the set up perfect.

My current setup is with the white HUB 3 in modem modem, and getting 510-520 Mbps over wifi via an Orbi RBK 53S on a 500 Mbps pack.

CoBo55 · 01-03-2021 08:04PM

deravarra wrote: »

no or little downtime?

With me working from home a lot, I would need a very stable connection. I cannot be spending ages to get the set up perfect.

My current setup is with the white HUB 3 in modem modem, and getting 510-520 Mbps over wifi via an Orbi RBK 53S on a 500 Mbps pack.

If it ain't broke....

jelem · 01-03-2021 08:07PM

Also this is only available to a very small percentage of users with the correct Fibre\cable.and area near to
cabinet --
eir wayback before 2016 advertise efibre ssign up get connected ---lol such a f___ lie still in dublin and old phone line.
Eir refuse to provide cable\fibre capable of over 20Mb.
roll out has corrupt liars Nbroadband with - "your area supplied by industry.
even the esb crowd will not install -
government ministrers liars and thieves supporting Cartel and monopoly.
Boards try delete ban this which is supported by fact then they little more than FG\FF patsies.
if you 1 of very small percentage then enjoy

deravarra · 01-03-2021 08:08PM

CoBo55 wrote: »

If it ain't broke....

The very reason i cancelled the order shortly after placing it.

The cancellation process was long and laughable.

CoBo55 · 01-03-2021 08:11PM

jelem wrote: »

Also this is only available to a very small percentage of users with the correct Fibre\cable.and area near to
cabinet --
eir wayback before 2016 advertise efibre ssign up get connected ---lol such a f___ lie still in dublin and old phone line.
Eir refuse to provide cable\fibre capable of over 20Mb.
roll out has corrupt liars Nbroadband with - "your area supplied by industry.
even the esb crowd will not install -
government ministrers liars and thieves supporting Cartel and monopoly.
Boards try delete ban this which is supported by fact then they little more than FG\FF patsies.
if you 1 of very small percentage then enjoy

Lord spare us, run out of fireworks??

deravarra · 01-03-2021 08:13PM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Lord spare us, run out of fireworks??

schmoo2k · 01-03-2021 08:18PM

deravarra wrote: »

The very reason i cancelled the order shortly after placing it.

The cancellation process was long and laughable.

I found the 1GB to be just as reliable as the white one in modem mode. I cannot say the same thing when it wasn't (the 1GB seemed to get overwhelmed relatively easily).

deravarra · 01-03-2021 08:23PM

schmoo2k wrote: »

I found the 1GB to be just as reliable as the white one in modem mode. I cannot say the same thing when it wasn't (the 1GB seemed to get overwhelmed relatively easily).

Thanks for the feedback. Not 100% sure it's worth going from 500Mbps to 1Gbps. I think these Hub 2 Modems will be around for a while, and that they will have another increase in speed towards the end of the year. I might wait until then and see.

Docsis 3.1 can theoretically go up to 10Gbps and have 1Gbps upload. I doubt VM will ever go to that much upload

bk · 03-03-2021 11:25PM

MOD: Thanks everyone, sorry for the delay, just cleaned up the off topic posts.

MugsGame · 04-03-2021 11:09AM

Not 100% sure it's worth going from 500Mbps to 1Gbps. I think these Hub 2 Modems will be around for a while, and that they will have another increase in speed towards the end of the year. I might wait until then and see.

Docsis 3.1 can theoretically go up to 10Gbps and have 1Gbps upload. I doubt VM will ever go to that much upload.

Yeah, I'll only upgrade from 500Mbps/50Mbps package when they offer faster upload speeds.

Virgin 1Gb now available.

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