Three Ireland 5G

1huge1 wrote: »

I've seen that in the fine print form other carriers, I believe its just them covering themselves regarding a minimum speed.

You won't be limited by this.

Its interesting the MINIMUM speed for the router is 25mbs

I continue to be impressed with Three 5G throughout.

There are only two Irish networks at present: Vodafone, Eir

Interesting .. is there more information on their FWA, what is the difference between threes FWA and a 5G router using their mobile service ?

No difference from a technical perspective. But Three are probably going to prioritise bandwidth for their own FWA customers over a DIY setup with a phone SIM in a router, there have been a few reports that they are limiting 5G to specific devices so buying your own 5G router to use with a phone SIM is probably not a good investment until the price of 5G routers falls to more affordable levels.

https://www.three.ie/buy/broadband.html

Caspero wrote: »

Nice, is that with the CPE Pro 2?

No, I've not tried that yet.(I'm on call for work at the moment, and I've a few other numbers diverted to the 5G sim to avoid carrying a few phones around). It was on a Oneplus 8 Mobile. The phone isn't the greatest, but one of the things I noticed was that when I tether, and check the speed on the tethered device, It only shows about 60-100Mb on Wi-Fi, whereas the phone is showing 5-600Mb.

Anyone know if the comreg site viewer map is updated with 5g sites?

I went into the three shop and they said my eircode was not available for 5g.
The nearest site to me is a three site and their own map suggests that 5g should be available to me....

I rang Three a couple of months ago as from the map online my house was shown to be covered. I was then told by customer service that they have a different map in front of them to what's online and that I wasn't in fact covered.

Caspero wrote: »

My experience is that neither the three shop staff or three's map was accurate in my case

The staff told me there was no 5g in my county, which was wrong. The map says there is 5g everywhere around where I live, but it's really only available near the masts.

Unfortunately I think that just leaves us with the only accurate option being to test the location ourselves with a 5g device and a payg SIM card with the 5g add-on. Even that won't work though unless it's a device that has been enabled on the Three 5g network. For example I stood right next to their 5g mast near me with a Galaxy S10 5G model and it didn't work. After a lot of calls to support it turned out they hadn't enabled that device for use on their 5g network yet. Wasn't prioritised because it's not one they're selling with their 5g plans.

I get all that.
I'm hoping to identify the location of 5g masts.

How did you work out which masts were 5g enabled when it wasn't giving you a 5g connection?

So i bought a brand new PAYG Three sim with the 5G add on, placed in brand new out of the box Realme 7 5G phone this evening

The auto configured APN is



However the phone does not seem to have 5G as an option..



I called three, they said everything was configured correctly however the back end team would have to "do something" and would text me when I could expect to be able to use 5G...

That was at 5.00 today.. no text yet

celtic_oz wrote: »

So i bought a brand new PAYG Three sim with the 5G add on, placed in brand new out of the box Realme 7 5G phone this evening

The auto configured APN is



However the phone does not seem to have 5G as an option..



I called three, they said everything was configured correctly however the back end team would have to "do something" and would text me when I could expect to be able to use 5G...

That was at 5.00 today.. no text yet

Have you tried to change the APN to 3ireland.ie ?

Trying to get my head around how it auto filled as O2 Ireland, a network that hasn't existed in 7 years.

Best I can come up with is that the cell tower you are connected to is one of their old ones that 3 have taken over. When it looks for default interest settings, those are the ones that that cell tower provides.

1huge1 wrote: »

Trying to get my head around how it auto filled as O2 Ireland, a network that hasn't existed in 7 years.

Best I can come up with is that the cell tower you are connected to is one of their old ones that 3 have taken over. When it looks for default interest settings, those are the ones that that cell tower provides.

Realme effed up is all. Technically 02 is valid for 272-05 but it shouldnt be the default.

do not trust the maps

celtic_oz wrote: »

thanks .. N28 + N78 is on this phone so should be perfect

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001895947193.html

specs : 5G NR: n1/n3/n5/n7/n8/n20/n28/n38/n40/n41/n77/n78

Three eventually came back and said they do not support 5G phones not sold by them and the following are definitely not supported

Realme
Oppo
Oneplus
Xiaomi
Redmi

Nothing can be done.

celtic_oz wrote: »

Three eventually came back and said they do not support 5G phones not sold by them and the following are definitely not supported

Realme
Oppo
Oneplus
Xiaomi
Redmi

Nothing can be done.

I had hoped that this would be solved with a firmware update.

Absolutely ridiculous stance, I forked out to get a Oneplus 8 largely due to its 5G capability.

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

I have Three 5g working on both oneplus 8 and a Xiaomi Mi 10T.

It works better on the Xiaomi as both sim slots are 5g, and its also capable of accepting calls while data is forced to 5G, but the Oneplus does still work on 5g.

Oh interesting, I haven't taken out a 5g plan partly due to the worry that it wouldnt work on my phone, but also that I am wfh (like most of us) so just use wifi.

I am paying €8 a month at the moment with 48 and getting 4g+ speeds of over 100mb so I'm not as pushed for 5G as I was when I bought the phone.

Caspero wrote: »

Nice, is that with the CPE Pro 2?

So I got a chance earlier to try the €20 plus €5 addon 5g sim card in the Huawei 5g cpe2.
Stuck the card in, gave it about thirty seconds and I got green lights in all three display indicators (telling me I had 5g signal).

So I plugged in an ethernet cable to my Nvidia Sheild, and at the same time, connected a laptop wirelessly from about 10 feet away.

Management page showed me I had 5g download and 4g upload (which is par for the course for 5G NSA)

Speeds on the shield wired were 800Mb/s download and 70Mb/s upload.

Speeds on wireless were about 470-640 Download.

So, the 3 PAYG sim in a 5G router works, and you don't have to buy the router from 3.

Boggles wrote: »

Did you buy the router or just grab a lend of one?

Seems to be a severe lack of proper 5G routers on the market at the moment.

I bought it from a retailer in Germany back in November, I was dissappointed that although the 3 map showed me having service, I couldn't get 5g. That changed about 3/4 weeks ago though, when I noticed 5g appearing on my Phone.There was some discussion here about whether Three were only whitelisting devices sold by themselves, so that is the context.
This is the retailer I bought from:

https://www.sotel.de

First one I bought was more or less DOA, but they replaced it, second one worked fine.

Caspero wrote: »

Great news, thanks for sharing Herald.

That's the H122-373 right? Am I right in thinking that router

• Has Wifi 6 (IEEE 802.11ax)
• Has no external antenna ports?

Yeah thats the one, here's the link for it from the Co. I bought it from,

https://www.sotel.de/en/Handy-Tablet/Surfsticks-MiFi/Telekom-Huawei-5G-CPE-Pro2-white-0050.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAvvKBBhCXARIsACTePW_SfqL8h0UhDJepZ_K51paYuPbTdBLsWchuYz8TI5IvvZyTr0D0o9IaAv7PEALw_wcB&cur=0

But its available from various online retailers, Amazon etc.

It doesn't have external antennae ports, my previous Router, the B618, did
but its hard to know if they actually improve things, or if its a sort of placebo effect.

As i've only one 5g sim/plan at the moment, and I need to keep that in a phone for the next few months, I'm using the 5G CPE on 4G at the moment, speeds are same as the B618 with antennae.

It has WiFi 6, but its not something I'm focused on at the moment, and my stuff and my girlfriends, with the exception of Mobile Phones, may not support it. If we have the need to stream a number of 8k streams simultaneously and require bandwith up to 6Gbp/s then that might change!!

Overall though, I'm happy that it works, and that Three are not discriminating!!

Any joy your end with seeing 5G signal?

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

It doesn't have external antennae ports, my previous Router, the B618, did
but its hard to know if they actually improve things, or if its a sort of placebo effect.

External antennas will help when signal is the limiting factor, for many the limiting factor is network contention and not signal so itll have no impact.

ED E wrote: »

External antennas will help when signal is the limiting factor, for many the limiting factor is network contention and not signal so itll have no impact.

Yeah, but I'd imagine that applies to Antennae used in an external setting( bolted on the exterior, high up, etc), where as mine were the €15/€20 plastic box and suction cups on a window setup.

The thing I also noticed was that the sockets on the router(t9) were pretty flimsy.

themixermac wrote: »

Great to see this working in the way you describe. I am currently on a 3 unlimited Sim only 4G plan using a router and am getting ok speeds. If I get a 5G add-on for this new router do they upgrade my current sim or send out a new one.

No, the Sim I'm using is a couple of years old. You have to change your plan though, if you're using the old €20 deal, you have to sign up for the new €20 deal, this means you lose the ability to save your credit and use it to buy stuff.

You then just pay an extra €5 on top for the 5G addon.

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

Yeah thats the one, here's the link for it from the Co. I bought it from,

https://www.sotel.de/en/Handy-Tablet/Surfsticks-MiFi/Telekom-Huawei-5G-CPE-Pro2-white-0050.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAvvKBBhCXARIsACTePW_SfqL8h0UhDJepZ_K51paYuPbTdBLsWchuYz8TI5IvvZyTr0D0o9IaAv7PEALw_wcB&cur=0

But its available from various online retailers, Amazon etc.

It doesn't have external antennae ports, my previous Router, the B618, did
but its hard to know if they actually improve things, or if its a sort of placebo effect.

As i've only one 5g sim/plan at the moment, and I need to keep that in a phone for the next few months, I'm using the 5G CPE on 4G at the moment, speeds are same as the B618 with antennae.

It has WiFi 6, but its not something I'm focused on at the moment, and my stuff and my girlfriends, with the exception of Mobile Phones, may not support it. If we have the need to stream a number of 8k streams simultaneously and require bandwith up to 6Gbp/s then that might change!!

Overall though, I'm happy that it works, and that Three are not discriminating!!

Any joy your end with seeing 5G signal?

As a comparison for your location, what did are you getting with 4g?