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Carfacemandog · 27-02-2021 02:57PM

Das Reich wrote: »

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Have you been paying attention to what the US have been doing in this front over the last 4 years?

Sure. Not 100% good, but better than the other one that created so much mess in ME.

Thats pretty interesting, given that after the failed american coup attempt two years ago you were claiming to not care about Venezuela.

Das Reich wrote: »

I don't care about Venezuela but would love to see Brazil annexing "French Guiana" and Argentina the Malvines ending for good the colonialism in SA.

"Maximum attention" now though, right?

astrofool · 27-02-2021 02:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Because Biden doesn't believe in it.

If he did, he'd crack on with it and wouldn't be hiding behind the 'parliamentarian' malarkey.

Cute hoorism.

You know this not to be true, you understand how politics worse, why would you push this, what angle does this have?

Do you honestly believe that Biden doesn't want the minimum wage in place, and that he wouldn't have enacted it if it were passed?

Battles must be picked, and this can be returned to again, the purity of those on the left is by far their biggest weakness, leading to their consistent inability to get things done.

27-02-2021 02:59PM

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Thats pretty interesting, given that after two years ago you were claiming to not care about Venezuela.

"Maximum attention" now though, right?

That's some impressive detective work. Have you considered offering your services to Trump with regards to the election? :pac:

Das Reich · 27-02-2021 02:59PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I'll spell it out for you:

The. Articles. Were. Written. In. August. And. October. 2019. Obama. Left. Office. In. January. 2017. Which. Is. 2.5. Years. Before.

The. Second. Article. Emphasises. That. Trump. Caused. The. Food. And. Medicine. Shortages.

Moderator asked to prove food shortage in Venezuela (and the emigration caused by it ) was caused by foreign (USA) interference. Article is there. You disagree that 4 million people didn't left? Fell free to post the links here.

You disagree that the food shortages was caused or at least augmented by USA interference? Feel free to post links here.

Further reading if you want to know when sanctions started: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela_Defense_of_Human_Rights_and_Civil_Society_Act_of_2014

astrofool · 27-02-2021 03:01PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I'll spell it out for you:

The. Articles. Were. Written. In. August. And. October. 2019. Obama. Left. Office. In. January. 2017. Which. Is. 2.5. Years. Before.

The. Second. Article. Emphasises. That. Trump. Caused. The. Food. And. Medicine. Shortages.

I don't think it matters, you've landed into the unique space of someone who won't back down both because they were wrong and can't admit and because they have to prove to a moderator that they were posting in good faith.

Professor Moriarty · 27-02-2021 03:01PM

Das Reich wrote: »

Moderator asked to prove food shortage in Venezuela (and the emigration caused by it ) was caused by foreign (USA) interference. Article is there. You disagree that 4 million people didn't left? Fell free to post the links here.

You disagree that the food shortages was caused or at least augmented by USA interference? Feel free to post links here.

Further reading if you want to know when sanctiona started: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela_Defense_of_Human_Rights_and_Civil_Society_Act_of_2014

Three times now, you've ignored my argument. I can only assume you're either incapable of understanding the points I made or you are deliberately choosing to ignore them. Either way, I'll leave you at it.

Das Reich · 27-02-2021 03:12PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Three times now, you've ignored my argument. I can only assume you're either incapable of understanding the points I made or you are deliberately choosing to ignore them. Either way, I'll leave you at it.

Ignoring what? You said Obama left in january 2017. USA started to create the mess in 2014. End of story.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 27-02-2021 03:14PM

Das Reich wrote: »

Since moderetor Necro asked me to show how USA (under Obama presidency) was involved in food shortages in Venezuela that provoked a emigration of 4 million people

Das Reich wrote: »

Moderator asked to prove food shortage in Venezuela (and the emigration caused by it ) was caused by foreign (USA) interference. Article is there. You disagree that 4 million people didn't left? Fell free to post the links here.

You've strawmaned your own argument.

duploelabs · 27-02-2021 03:33PM

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Thats pretty interesting, given that after the failed american coup attempt two years ago you were claiming to not care about Venezuela.

"Maximum attention" now though, right?

On this, French Guiana isn't a french colony but actually part of the french state. Longest internal flight in the world is from Paris to Cayenne

Tell me how · 27-02-2021 04:01PM

Cody montana wrote: »

But that’s all they ever did?
Scream irrelevant catchphrases and conspiracy theories.
No substance.
No engagement.
No answers.

Republican strategy, to be used by holders of all elected offices, supporters, media outlets etc.

Step 1: 'Accuse others of that which you are guilty'
Step 2: Let's undo something liberals have introduced or block them trying to introduce anything progressive.
Step 3: Go back to Step 1.

12gauge dave · 27-02-2021 04:40PM

Countries aren't even meeting pledges it's nothing more than a meeting to make the world think they're doing something.

President Biden laying off lots of had working Americans during a pandemic in the oil and energy fields for this farce of an agreement.

Sky News (@SkyNews) Tweeted:
A UN report has found that global efforts to reduce CO2 emissions 'fall far short of what is required' and that nations must 'step up' to fulfil pledges made under the Paris agreement https://t.co/80Apaq5uCv https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1365415124564135940?s=20

27-02-2021 04:53PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

Countries aren't even meeting pledges it's nothing more than a meeting to make the world think they're doing something.

No it isn't. You are quite adept at showing you that you don't have a clue what you are talking about aren't you? The targets set are goals, no country is being forced to meet these goals. Countries have been missing their goals since the agreement was first signed years ago so perhaps have a quick google about it next time before getting angry about it.

But, of course, you're not actually angry about it. You don't even care about the Paris Agreement, the only thing you care about is that Biden is for it and Trump is against it. If it was the opposite you would be all for the Agreement. It is unbelievable how much of a clapping seal you are.

12gauge dave wrote: »

President Biden laying off lots of had working Americans during a pandemic in the oil and energy fields for this farce of an agreement.

You.. you think Biden is laying off people in these fields.... for the sake of this agreement? Is that a serious comment? You don't think he might be doing it because of, you know, climate change?

27-02-2021 04:54PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

Countries aren't even meeting pledges it's nothing more than a meeting to make the world think they're doing something.

President Biden laying off lots of had working Americans during a pandemic in the oil and energy fields for this farce of an agreement.

The US look likely to start large scale infrastructural work, so that will create plenty of jobs. Propping up dying industries that are wrecking the environment will cause generations of damage.

I would view the Paris accord as a stepping stone more than anything and a recognition that multilateral action is required to combat climate change. Having the democrats in there is far more beneficial than the republican party who are largely anti science and a large proportion of their politicians don't even recognize the existence of climate change.

By the way, you never replied when a poster asked you if you favour Trump's policy of separating parents from their children...

astrofool · 27-02-2021 04:56PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

Countries aren't even meeting pledges it's nothing more than a meeting to make the world think they're doing something.

President Biden laying off lots of had working Americans during a pandemic in the oil and energy fields for this farce of an agreement.

So as the current agreement falls short, you agree that the USA should cut back on oil even more? (which will lead to more had working americans being laid off).

You can't both say that the agreement doesn't go far enough while also saying that it goes too far. Decide on one (or is this another one where you can't decide if it's good or bad that the government removes you from your family members?).

Tell me how · 27-02-2021 04:57PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

Countries aren't even meeting pledges it's nothing more than a meeting to make the world think they're doing something.

So, what should be done? Pull out of the Climate Agreement and try to re-ignite the coal mining trade in America? Was that a plan to help the climate?

Even conservatives know action is needed. Marjorie Taylor Greene put a sign outside her representative office this past week telling people to 'trust the science', so we finally should start to see a consensus within political parties to do so.
I mean, why would she say that if she didn't mean it and given that she is one of the most conservative conservatives in congress, having her jump her frame of mind forward 50 years to catch up with the rest of us it really is a positive sign.

Isn't it?

12gauge dave wrote: »

President Biden laying off lots of had working Americans during a pandemic in the oil and energy fields for this farce of an agreement.

This is a blatant lie, which you know it is, and I think at this point you should edit your post to reflect that.

All jobs affected by the cancelling of the pipeline were in the construction of it and about 90% of the 11,000 suggested being lost had not even started working yet.

Carfacemandog · 27-02-2021 04:59PM

astrofool wrote: »

So as the current agreement falls short, you agree that the USA should cut back on oil even more? (which will lead to more had working americans being laid off).

You can't both say that the agreement doesn't go far enough while also saying that it goes too far. Decide on one (or is this another one where you can't decide if it's good or bad that the government removes you from your family members?).

It's the same group parroting the same talking points that also claim Biden is doing too much and too little at the same time - consistency nor honesty matter a jot to them. They don't care, they just pretend to - as we also saw with the ve ezueka example earlier.

A whole bunch of boys crying wolf.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 27-02-2021 04:59PM

duploelabs wrote: »

On this, French Guiana isn't a french colony but actually part of the french state. Longest internal flight in the world is from Paris to Cayenne

Not wishing to drag the thread off course, but I beleive it;s Paris --> Reunion Island

astrofool · 27-02-2021 04:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The US look likely to start large scale infrastructural work, so that will create plenty of jobs. Propping up dying industries that are wrecking the environment will cause generations of damage.

I would view the Paris accord as a stepping stone more than anything and a recognition that multilateral action is required to combat climate change. Having the democrats in there is far more beneficial than the republican party who are largely anti science and a large proportion of their politicians don't even recognize the existence of climate change.

By the way, you never replied when a poster asked you if you favour Trump's policy of separating parents from their children...

I think this is the trumpets great fear, post pandemic there will be massive infrastructural investment generating lots of jobs and boosting the economy, and the GOP are powerless to stop it, they will of course worry about the debt as instead of it going into rich people's pockets it will be spent on capital assets.

Watch the howling from dave as they make available funds to stop using cages while also dave being happy that families are being separated from each other and giving out about the biden administration stopping that practice.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 27-02-2021 05:04PM

astrofool wrote: »

I think this is the trumpets great fear, post pandemic there will be massive infrastructural investment generating lots of jobs and boosting the economy, and the GOP are powerless to stop it, they will of course worry about the debt as instead of it going into rich people's pockets it will be spent on capital assets.

Watch the howling from dave as they make available funds to stop using cages while also dave being happy that families are being separated from each other and giving out about the biden administration stopping that practice.

Only if someone reports it on Twitter.

12gauge dave · 27-02-2021 08:16PM

President Biden is going to have to implement more stern approach to his southern border this can't go on.
His softer approach is leading to a sharp increase in numbers.

As of Friday, more than 900 children were waiting in Border Patrol stations to be transferred to a shelter, according to a person familiar with the number, with 100 of them waiting longer than the 72-hour limit permitted by law.

WASHINGTON—The number of unaccompanied immigrant children arrested for crossing the U.S. southern border illegally is on pace to rise more than 50% in February compared with the previous month, people familiar with the matter said, raising the prospect of a humanitarian crisis there.

About 2,200 children have been illegally crossing the border weekly in February, and the pace is picking up as the month progresses, some of the people said. The government is projecting that about 9,000 children will be taken into custody by the end of February.

27-02-2021 08:23PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

As of Friday, more than 900 children were waiting in Border Patrol stations to be transferred to a shelter, according to a person familiar with the number, with 100 of them waiting longer than the 72-hour limit permitted by law.

From April to June 2018, Trump's family separation policy resulted in 4,368 children being separated from their parents, and that policy had no measures to reunite them.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-18/u-s-officials-say-they-are-highly-confident-to-have-reached-tally-on-separated-children-4-368
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/29/politics/family-separations-reunification-never-plan-court/index.html

Are you going to comment about that as many have asked you to, or are you going to keep your fingers in your ears like the good little seal that you are and continue with your faux outrage?

Cody montana · 27-02-2021 08:58PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

President Biden is going to have to implement more stern approach to his southern border this can't go on.
His softer approach is leading to a sharp increase in numbers.

As of Friday, more than 900 children were waiting in Border Patrol stations to be transferred to a shelter, according to a person familiar with the number, with 100 of them waiting longer than the 72-hour limit permitted by law.

WASHINGTON—The number of unaccompanied immigrant children arrested for crossing the U.S. southern border illegally is on pace to rise more than 50% in February compared with the previous month, people familiar with the matter said, raising the prospect of a humanitarian crisis there.

About 2,200 children have been illegally crossing the border weekly in February, and the pace is picking up as the month progresses, some of the people said. The government is projecting that about 9,000 children will be taken into custody by the end of February.

And what’s your opinion?

12gauge dave · 27-02-2021 09:03PM

Cody montana wrote: »

And what’s your opinion?

President Biden is going to have to implement a more stern approach to his southern border as this can't go on.
His softer approach is leading to a sharp increase in numbers.

JJayoo · 27-02-2021 09:08PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

From April to June 2018, Trump's family separation policy resulted in 4,368 children being separated from their parents, and that policy had no measures to reunite them.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-18/u-s-officials-say-they-are-highly-confident-to-have-reached-tally-on-separated-children-4-368
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/29/politics/family-separations-reunification-never-plan-court/index.html

Are you going to comment about that as many have asked you to, or are you going to keep your fingers in your ears like the good little seal that you are and continue with your faux outrage?

Why are you bringing up Trump? The poster is stating the current situation, this "oh my guy isn't as bad as your guy" nonsense is so childish and unconstructive.

27-02-2021 09:15PM

JJayoo wrote: »

Why are you bringing up Trump? The poster is stating the current situation, this "oh my guy isn't as bad as your guy" nonsense is so childish and unconstructive.

I see you're new to this thread. Perhaps have a look at that poster's post history and then come back and tell us who is the childish and unconstructive one.

Timberrrrrrrr · 27-02-2021 09:17PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

President Biden is going to have to implement a more stern approach to his southern border as this can't go on.
His softer approach is leading to a sharp increase in numbers.

Didn't get the response/attention when you posted it an hour ago so you repost it?

12gauge dave wrote: »

President Biden is going to have to implement more stern approach to his southern border this can't go on.
His softer approach is leading to a sharp increase in numbers.

As of Friday, more than 900 children were waiting in Border Patrol stations to be transferred to a shelter, according to a person familiar with the number, with 100 of them waiting longer than the 72-hour limit permitted by law.

WASHINGTON—The number of unaccompanied immigrant children arrested for crossing the U.S. southern border illegally is on pace to rise more than 50% in February compared with the previous month, people familiar with the matter said, raising the prospect of a humanitarian crisis there.

About 2,200 children have been illegally crossing the border weekly in February, and the pace is picking up as the month progresses, some of the people said. The government is projecting that about 9,000 children will be taken into custody by the end of February.

12gauge dave · 27-02-2021 09:18PM

JJayoo wrote: »

Why are you bringing up Trump? The poster is stating the current situation, this "oh my guy isn't as bad as your guy" nonsense is so childish and unconstructive.

Thankyou.
Despite this being a Biden thread and a warning in the first post that Trump talk is for the trump threads by moderators this is their go to defense.

27-02-2021 09:18PM

JJayoo wrote: »

What a bizarre post, do I have to pick a side? Not allowed to have independent/non biased opinion?

Hmmm so which extreme will I go with? Which opinion will get me the most likes?

Seriously grow up

I don't know what that has to do with what I just said, but I have reported this post for obvious reasons.

JJayoo · 27-02-2021 09:21PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Didn't get the response/attention when you posted it an hour ago so you repost it?

What exactly about his post is giving you the hump? Are parts incorrect?

27-02-2021 09:25PM

JJayoo wrote: »

What exactly about his post is giving you the hump? Are parts incorrect?

I would highly recommend just spending 30 seconds looking through his post history. You will understand better.

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