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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #1772
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    So hospital numbers ended at 574 at the end of the month
    Still two days of data to go!


  • #1773
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    giveitholly wrote: »
    Exactly it won't work in this country unfortunately but sure keep banging that drum anyway

    She will , she will ad nauseum.


  • #1774
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    giveitholly wrote: »
    How do you find a way of doing it while sharing a land border with another country?

    Ask Thailand, Hong Kong and Cambodia how to do it maybe?


  • #1775
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    She will , she will ad nauseum.

    Camomile tea is good for nausea, Plumb, though it may not work where the disease is endemic to the sufferer.


  • #1776
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Ask Thailand, Hong Kong and Cambodia how to do it maybe?
    The first two use mandatory tracking apps and in the last one 75% live in rural areas and are out in the open air a lot.


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  • #1777
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The first two use mandatory tracking apps and in the last one 75% live in rural areas and are out in the open air a lot.

    And.......?


  • #1778
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    And.......?

    Thats why it wouldn't work in Ireland,do you honestly think all the population would agree to a Big Brother style government who can track every movement you make?


  • #1779
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    We've recently sent a robot to Mars, we fly in the sky like birds for travel, we're communicating with each other using electronic devices over wireless networks through the internet and we even came up with a vaccine for this novel virus within a year.

    But people actually think it's impossible to close a land border, something humans have already been doing for 1000s of centuries...


  • #1780
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    And.......?
    I really can't help you if you're not prepared to join the dots. It's fine that you randomly point at countries of low incidence of COVID but at least look at the strategies they use and how they might not work elsewhere.


  • #1781
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    We've recently sent a robot to Mars, we fly in the sky like birds for travel, we're communicating with each other using electronic devices over wireless networks through the internet and we even came up with a vaccine for this novel virus within a year.

    But people actually think it's impossible to close a land border, something humans have already been doing for 1000s of centuries...
    How do you close a land border where some people live on one side of the border and work on another,Unless you live along the border you haven't a clue how complex it is. Oisin Mcconville was on tv months ago telling us it wouldn't work, I think these people have a better grasp of reality than random people on here


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  • #1782
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    We've recently sent a robot to Mars, we fly in the sky like birds for travel, we're communicating with each other using electronic devices over wireless networks through the internet and we even came up with a vaccine for this novel virus within a year.

    But people actually think it's impossible to close a land border, something humans have already been doing for 1000s of centuries...
    The world is a complicated place and none of your examples include politics. Politics got us to where we are today, a world where such things are possible.


  • #1783
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Camomile tea is good for nausea, Plumb, though it may not work where the disease is endemic to the sufferer.
    Any cure for constant repetition?


  • #1784
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Game in New Zealand, this could be us. Oh hang on. Zero covid still won't bring anyone normal back.


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  • #1785
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    It's definitely complicated and might not consist of a complete border closurer but there are solutions. I suggested fines about 6 months ago, border check points (we had Gardai check points during the mad cow disease outbreak), mandatory covid tests. There are plenty of solutions, i have already come up with three in the space of 2 minutes whilst sitting on the John, I'm sure our great leaders know better than randomers on the internet can come up with something better.


  • #1786
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Any cure for constant repetition?

    I will defer to your long practice and expertise on the matter of repetition, Plumb. You are the grand master.


  • #1787
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    It's definitely complicated and might not consist of a complete border closurer but there are solutions. I suggested fines about 6 months ago, are check points (we can Gardai check points during the mad cow disease outbreak), mandatory covid tests. There are plenty of solutions, i have already come up with three in the space of 2 minutes whilst sitting on the John.
    It's easy come up with solutions on the bog,congrats,but it's a different ball game trying to implement them and getting them to work,sure didn't you just admit it in the first sentence of the above post


  • #1788
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    It's definitely complicated and might not consist of a complete border closurer but there are solutions. I suggested fines about 6 months ago, border check points (we had Gardai check points during the mad cow disease outbreak), mandatory covid tests. There are plenty of solutions, i have already come up with three in the space of 2 minutes whilst sitting on the John.

    Thanks for the visual... 🤮


  • #1789
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    I will defer to your long practice and expertise on the matter of repetition, Plumb. You are the grand master.
    Not at all, but I will respond if the humour takes me when I see someone advocating Zero Covid. That ship sailed 12 months ago and it wasn't possible then either. Calling for Zero Covid now with vaccination taking place and a significant portion of the populace getting pissed off with restrictions is beyond stupid.
    Btw the countries you like to reference prehaps acquaint yourself with their culture and means of governance then transpose your new knowledge to our society and governance structures.


  • #1790
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    It's definitely complicated and might not consist of a complete border closurer but there are solutions. I suggested fines about 6 months ago, border check points (we had Gardai check points during the mad cow disease outbreak), mandatory covid tests. There are plenty of solutions, i have already come up with three in the space of 2 minutes whilst sitting on the John, I'm sure our great leaders know better than randomers on the internet can come up with something better.

    So at these border checks do we stop people crossing completely or are people working either side allowed.


  • #1791
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    It's definitely complicated and might not consist of a complete border closurer but there are solutions. I suggested fines about 6 months ago, border check points (we had Gardai check points during the mad cow disease outbreak), mandatory covid tests. There are plenty of solutions, i have already come up with three in the space of 2 minutes whilst sitting on the John, I'm sure our great leaders know better than randomers on the internet can come up with something better.

    Do they call toilets 'johns' in China? You're still living there right?


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  • #1792
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    giveitholly wrote: »
    It's easy come up with solutions on the bog,congrats,but it's a different ball game trying to implement them and getting them to work,sure didn't you just admit it in the first sentence of the above post

    If the government have the power to lockdown the country (3 times) then they've the necessary power to implement what I said. In fact they're doing it now, albeit 6 months and 2 lockdowns too late

    And if we had strong leadership, we would have had some border restrictions as soon as we realized the north was letting it run rampant


  • #1793
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    And welcome to the Zero Covid Nutters alliance! Has the thread been infiltrated by ISAG pot heads......

    Absolute nonsense being spouted here this morning!

    Zero covid isn’t reality, we are not New Zealand!! Time to move on from that debate to be honest!
    It should’ve happened along side NI last year. Far too late for that strategy now!


  • #1794
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Do they call toilets 'johns' in China? You're still living there right?

    Well if you had any common sense you'd realise that they don't speak English in China and they'd have their own word for it in their language


  • #1795
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    It's definitely complicated and might not consist of a complete border closurer but there are solutions. I suggested fines about 6 months ago, border check points (we had Gardai check points during the mad cow disease outbreak), mandatory covid tests. There are plenty of solutions, i have already come up with three in the space of 2 minutes whilst sitting on the John, I'm sure our great leaders know better than randomers on the internet can come up with something better.
    Some chance of closing the border when the north opens up with most of their citizens vaccinated, there will be lines of cars heading north, as for closing the airports, we are only a little state in the eu, we have to be good Europeans. Saw the case numbers for France and Italy yesterday for the first time in a while, must be 4 times higher than the last time I looked at them.


  • #1796
    Turtwig
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    niallo27 wrote: »
    Game in New Zealand, this could be us. Oh hang on. Zero covid still won't bring anyone normal back.


    545133.jpg


    Very disingenuous post.

    Super Rugby fixtures last season and this season had crowds attending. Just this weekend the Crusaders game had a capacity crowd of 15,000. In contrast to almost every rugby game last year and this year in Ireland and Europe that had no crowds.

    By all means criticise zero covid but not which such weak bullsh1t.


  • #1797
    Windmill100000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Windmill100000


    Just read Auckland going into a 7-day lockdown.


  • #1798
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Cork2021 wrote: »
    And welcome to the Zero Covid Nutters alliance! Has the thread been infiltrated by ISAG pot heads......

    Absolute nonsense being spouted here this morning!

    Zero covid isn’t reality, we are not New Zealand!! Time to move on from that debate to be honest!
    It should’ve happened along side NI last year. Far too late for that strategy now!

    Hahhahahahah! We are nutters because what we advocate SHOULD HAVE BEEN implemented ... but now it is too late. :pac::pac::pac:

    At least you know I WAS right sometime back then. :p

    Anyway it is never too late to allow a virus to die out. It needs bodies to replicate in and when it does not have them it dies out quite quickly and we are back to low low numbers. Then you take the low low numbers and smash it completely with strict test trace isolate and good quarantine measures.
    You can reduce amounts of Covid virus in the community slowly, painfully, protractedly, and uselessly with long drawn out arduous lockdowns that drive everyone insane and still lose loads of people to death and long Covid, or you can be smart like countries that will not tolerate the health burden on their citizens.
    The way we are going we will be fecking pin cushions for endlessly changing, repeated experimental jabs for years to come. It was never the sensible humane response to allow endemia. Well, unless you have shares in pharmaceutical companies.


  • #1799
    Plumbthedepths
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    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Well if you had any common sense you'd realise that they don't speak English in China and they'd have their own word for it in their language

    I have plenty of common sense, for example I don't log on to Weibo and tell Chinese people what they should be doing. I don't live there, it would be presumptuous and antagonistic of me if I did.


  • #1800
    jackboy
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    Cork2021 wrote: »
    And welcome to the Zero Covid Nutters alliance! Has the thread been infiltrated by ISAG pot heads......

    Absolute nonsense being spouted here this morning!

    Zero covid isn’t reality, we are not New Zealand!! Time to move on from that debate to be honest!
    It should’ve happened along side NI last year. Far too late for that strategy now!

    Typical, just insult those with alternative viewpoints. Easier than debating.

    You would swear that NZ are the only country in the world that tried for ZC.


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  • #1801
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Christ!


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