WandaVision - Disney+ (***Spoilers***)

pjohnson wrote: »

Trolling fans of X-Men was an interesting tactic for Marvel to immediately use.


I dont think you will like multiverse much if you are expecting all timelines to be seamless...theres time fudges in the MCU if people want to get into technicalities.

Not seamless, but it should have some semblance of internal logic to it, same way the time travel of Endgame did. But the Fox X-Men logic is completely f*cky on its own without trying to incorporate it into the MCU in any meaningful way (bar maybe quick cameos or references).

Trying to take the Fox X-Men and history from the previous movies and actually fold them into the MCU would be a disaster imo, and not worth the hassle.

It's why I never thought Evan Peters was the Fox version of Quicksilver entering the MCU. It just didn't make any sense. It was a way of having Quicksilver in the show without Aaron Taylor Johnson (again, I'm guessing he didn't want to return unless he shows up in the last few episodes which is still possible though given they've really limited even showing him footage of him from Age of Ultron I'd say looking unlikely), while also playing into the TV trope of recasting an actor, and surprising the fans at the same time.

flazio wrote: »

Re characters from another universe.
Maybe there's more to this little Spider-man easter egg then we thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7R8dLLKL6g

We all just assumed somebody thought that JK Simmons was irreplaceable so don't replace him but what if it is some first hint to the walls between different Marvel universes breaking down.

Its almost like the multiverse means different versions of JK Simmons JJ Jameson around. Or maybe its just Marvel trolling again.

If the Fox-Verse is a mess god help anyone tryna accept the Sony-verse.

Deleted User wrote: »

In relation to Agatha being good or bad, it really felt like she was putting on an act of being evil. Everything she seems to have done in the show seems to be almost therapeutic for Wanda. She's just got unusual means.

Yeah she seems to be pushing Wanda to her limit to test her and see what makes her tick. I'm not convinced that she's the villian, just a neutral-evil superpowered witch intrigued/spooked by sensing an impossible release of power and possibly an imbalance/shift in the world. At the end she seemed more disappointed in Wanda for what she sees has her wasting her powers. She may end up becoming a mentor?

gmisk wrote: »

Well she did turn her coven and her mother into prunes....not to mention kidnapping the kids (even if they aren't real) oh and killing the dog...so I am edging towards bad

Good point re. Sparky.


No coming back from that. #TeamSparky

Poor Sparky. It’s a shame he had to get caught up in all this.

There's a clear image going around of Wanda's fleeting vision of herself, it's a beauty.

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Took a 2nd viewing for me to catch the Thor: Ragnarok reference included in the episode.

What was the reference?

The White Wolf wrote: »

There's a clear image going around of Wanda's fleeting vision of herself, it's a beauty.

It’s looks amazing!

klose wrote: »

Very interesting to see how Wandas powers are not solely from the stone which as many like myself who've only watched the movies would assume so.

Also is

vision 2.0 in the mid credit science a comic an original concept or has it been touched on before in the comics?

White Vision is from the comics, he's basically a copy of Vision... And also a part of Wonder Man

I was kind of disappointed by this episode. I felt that it totally did away with the best twists in the previous episodes like Fox universe Pietro and it being "Agatha All Along." Fox universe Pietro appearing was the first main introduction of the multiverse, which we know is coming. I grew up as an enormous X-Men comic fan and I hated the Fox X-Men movies. But I loved the twist of Evan Peters appearing as Pietro. I never took it to be a sign that the X-Men coming to the MCU would in any way be the Fox X-Men just an acknowledgement that those movies existed and the Pietro was the one character who'd appeared in both. If he's really just a random Westview resident that Agatha cast a spell on to think he was Pietro, that's extremely disappointing. This episode also spoiled last weeks reveal about Agatha. It wasn't her all along. She had nothing to do with any of it and is just as clueless as anyone. I always like Agatha, from her first days as Franklin Richards' nanny, so I'm happy for her not to be a villain. But that she's just a clueless witch who 'all along' was just bumbling about trying to find out what was going on, is also disappointing.

This episode also just goes reverts to backing up what we saw from the end of episode two, Wanda is responsible for everything happening in Westview because she is grieving. Presumably next week, we'll find out that's not actually true and Hayward somehow engineered the whole thing. He was clearly needling her by showing her Vision being dismantled as he wanted her to resurrect him. He even told her that she had the power to do that and was watching her with anticipation as she took in the view of him in pieces. I'm assuming that he was responsible for putting the deed to the plot for the house in Westview in her car and when she arrived some external force he arranged/knew about triggered her to hex the whole town. So presumably next week, things will get more complex again but this week really took the complexity that had been building up and wiped a lot of it away.

So we're thinking that Evan Peters was just a nod to the fox movies and a bit of fan service? That it's not the introduction of the multiverse

Maybe Marvel just underestimated how much fans would love to see the x men in the MCU