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astrofool · 26-02-2021 01:09PM

Smee_Again wrote: »

Considering eric has previously advocated for the shooting of dinghys to stop migrants and that'd he'd prefer migrants were murdered than be made share a landmass with them I don't think he has any issue with kids being separated and caged.

He can answer, and then we'll know what kind of person he is, and in what regard he holds his own children, if he has any.

Or he won't answer, and we'll assume what kind of person that he is, because whatever else I am, I do not support a government taking my children away from me if I were to cross into that country, I would actively fight them with any and all resources that I have, I would tear down that country piece by piece and I would ensure that those in charge of such a policy suffered as much as possible, because, for me, my children are more important than my politics. For Eric, Dave, and QB, they are putting an orange fart above their own family, and we can judge them appropriately for it. We'll also know, factually, that their opinions are worth less than other people who do put their families first.

silverharp · 26-02-2021 02:55PM

America is back

https://twitter.com/jrpsaki/status/850173258540474368

Curse These Metal Hands · 26-02-2021 02:59PM

The argument that Biden locks human beings into cages in a nicer way than Trump kind of misses the point lads.

It's OK to admit that caging immigrants is wrong.

salmocab · 26-02-2021 03:02PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

The argument that Biden locks human beings into cages in a nicer way than Trump kind of misses the point lads.

Well actually it doesn’t at all. The point was that it’s been the same since Obama but it hasn’t been at all. That was the point, now you of course are free to have another point but in this conversation that was the point.

26-02-2021 03:04PM

silverharp wrote: »

America is back

https://twitter.com/jrpsaki/status/850173258540474368

Amerika!!..Fnck yeah!!..

Curse These Metal Hands · 26-02-2021 03:07PM

salmocab wrote: »

Well actually it doesn’t at all. The point was that it’s been the same since Obama but it hasn’t been at all. That was the point, now you of course are free to have another point but in this conversation that was the point.

Fair enough. I suppose my point is that there is no justification for locking humans seeking a better life into cages like animals. People defending it depending on which President they support are clutching at straws.

26-02-2021 03:09PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

Fair enough. I suppose my point is that there is no justification for locking humans seeking a better life into cages like animals. People defending it depending on which President they support are clutching at straws.

Good thing no one is doing that then.

Curse These Metal Hands · 26-02-2021 03:11PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Good thing no one is doing that then.

So now the cages don't exist at all. Cool.

salmocab · 26-02-2021 03:12PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

Fair enough. I suppose my point is that there is no justification for locking humans seeking a better life into cages like animals. People defending it depending on which President they support are clutching at straws.

Not sure anyone here supported that at all and in fact one person that I’m sure you’d consider a Biden supporter has been quite clear on it.

26-02-2021 03:12PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

So now the cages don't exist at all. Cool.

You can reply to my detailed post about that earlier by answering the first of my three questions, or you can choose to continue to ignore my post. Your choice.

salmocab · 26-02-2021 03:12PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

So now the cages don't exist at all. Cool.

You don’t understand what the poster said

Curse These Metal Hands · 26-02-2021 03:13PM

salmocab wrote: »

Not sure anyone here supported that at all and in fact one person that I’m sure you’d consider a Biden supporter has been quite clear on it.

Someone above has denied its happening at all.

Curse These Metal Hands · 26-02-2021 03:15PM

salmocab wrote: »

You don’t understand what the poster said

Are people being locked in cages or not, and is it wrong?

The mental gymnastics people do to support their political affiliations is embarrassing really.

26-02-2021 03:15PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

Someone above has denied its happening at all.

No, I said no one here would defend such actions.

26-02-2021 03:16PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

Are people being locked in cages or not, and is it wrong?

So you won't be replying to my post then? You're just going to keep asking people the same question even though you've already been given a detailed response to that question which you aren't replying to?

salmocab · 26-02-2021 03:16PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

Are people being locked in cages or not, and is it wrong?

The mental gymnastics people do to support their political affiliations is embarrassing really.

Yes it’s wrong and again you didn’t understand what the poster meant

26-02-2021 03:17PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

So now the cages don't exist at all. Cool.

Example from myself, where do I justify it?

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Eh, that article specifically states they aren't engaging in the separation policy... I object to putting children or adults being put in cages. But the policy is still tangibly different to the previous administration... And I would say parents who have no real idea where their child is as a result of the Trump administration would say that the difference is substantial.

Curse These Metal Hands · 26-02-2021 03:18PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So you won't be replying to my post then? You're just going to keep asking people the same question even though you've already been given a detailed response to that question which you aren't replying to?

You've detailed why it happened. Your conclusion is it was the right move to cage them. And republicans made it worse. Ground breaking stuff.

It's still wrong.

Curse These Metal Hands · 26-02-2021 03:19PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Example from myself, where do I justify it?

I never accused you of justifying it. I haven't replied to a single post of yours.

26-02-2021 03:19PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

You've detailed why it happened. Your conclusion is it was the right move to cage them. And republicans made it worse. Ground breaking stuff.

It's still wrong.

Well then reply to the three questions I asked.

Curse These Metal Hands · 26-02-2021 03:21PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well then reply to the three questions I asked.

1. Not caged them.
2. Judging by my complaint that I don't agree with caging people, the answer is obvious.
3. Same as above.

You are saying it was right to cage them. Said no one here defends such actions, yet your detailed post is designed to show why Obama had to do it. That's defending it.

26-02-2021 03:23PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

I never accused you of justifying it. I haven't replied to a single post of yours.

The thing is, you've actively engaged in the topic as if posters are justifying it. They are not but it is substantially different to the previous administration's handling of it. And an improvement, not radical enough but still substantially different.

26-02-2021 03:23PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

1. Not caged them.
2. Judging by my complaint that I don't agree with caging people, the answer is obvious.
3. Same as above.

You are saying it was right to cage them.

No, I am saying it was right to keep them in a detention centre temporarily until better accommodation was found.

You didn't actually answer my first question, have another go. Unless you are saying they should have slept on a bench outside?

Curse These Metal Hands · 26-02-2021 03:24PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The thing is, you've actively engaged in the topic as if posters are justifying it. They are not but it is substantially different to the previous administration's handling of it. And an improvement, not radical enough but still substantially different.

A poster above wrote a detailed post on why it was the correct move to cage people during the Obama administration.

Curse These Metal Hands · 26-02-2021 03:24PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No, I am saying it was right to keep them in a detention centre temporarily until better accommodation was found.

You didn't actually answer my first question, have another go. Unless you are saying they should have slept on a bench outside?

So you are clearly saying the cages are justified then. So I was right.

Was Obama right to use cages?

26-02-2021 03:26PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

So you are clearly saying the cages are justified then. So I was right.

I've never once mentioned the word cages, but you can keep dodging the question if you like.

For what I believe is the sixth time of asking, what should Obama have done differently given the circumstances? And the answer is not "not what he did". I'm asking you, what was the other option he should have taken?

astrofool · 26-02-2021 03:28PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

So you are clearly saying the cages are justified then. So I was right.

Was Obama right to use cages?

Well hello new poster, do you support the enforced separation of children from their parents (including making those children orphans due to not keeping records) as a way to discourage immigration?

Curse These Metal Hands · 26-02-2021 03:28PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've never once mentioned the word cages, but you can keep dodging the question if you like.

For what I believe is the sixth time of asking, what should Obama have done differently given the circumstances? And the answer is not "not what he did". I'm asking you, what was the other option he should have taken?

Put them in facilities that weren't cruelly designed cages and show some humanity.

You labelling them as something different doesn't mean they weren't cages. Why do not call them cages?

Curse These Metal Hands · 26-02-2021 03:29PM

astrofool wrote: »

Well hello new poster, do you support the enforced separation of children from their parents (including making those children orphans due to not keeping records) as a way to discourage immigration?

Given that I'm against the ill treatment of immigrant, and every post I've made reflects that, why in gods name would I support that? Are you assuming because I am against caging immigrants that I must be a Trump supporter? Doesn't make sense.

26-02-2021 03:30PM

Curse These Metal Hands wrote: »

Put them in facilities that weren't cruelly designed cages and show some humanity.

You labelling them as something different doesn't mean they weren't cages. Why do not call them cages?

And if such facilities weren't available at the time, which was the case, what should have been done?

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