Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

12gauge dave

poisonated wrote: »

It would be super swell if you could answer astrofool’s question as I am interested in your response too. Thanks.

Sure, this video sums it up fairly well.


https://youtu.be/2HRKjwEVb2o

Biafranlivemat

Danno wrote: »

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-military/2021/02/26/biden-orders-us-airstrike-against-iran-backed-militia-target-in-eastern-syria/

Biden is a bombin

A month in office and the bombing has started.

Not surprised.

Biafranlivemat

Democrats Ask Biden To Surrender Keys On Nuclear Launches.

I didn't know, that other Democrats had realized that Biden was that unstable. Good news.

"House Democrats have asked President Joe Biden to give other officials the authority to launch nuclear weapons, an action which he currently has sole authority to do. California Rep. Jimmy Panetta spearheaded the Monday letter, which was signed by nearly three dozen House Democrats, Politico reported. “Vesting one person with this authority entails real risks,” the letter reads. “

https://michaelsavage.com/democrats-ask-biden-to-surrender-keys-on-nuclear-launches/

Cody montana

Biafranlivemat wrote: »

Democrats Ask Biden To Surrender Keys On Nuclear Launches.

I didn't know, that other Democrats had realized that Biden was that unstable. Good news.

"House Democrats have asked President Joe Biden to give other officials the authority to launch nuclear weapons, an action which he currently has sole authority to do. California Rep. Jimmy Panetta spearheaded the Monday letter, which was signed by nearly three dozen House Democrats, Politico reported. “Vesting one person with this authority entails real risks,” the letter reads. “

https://michaelsavage.com/democrats-ask-biden-to-surrender-keys-on-nuclear-launches/

Why do you think that is?

duploelabs

12gauge dave wrote: »

Sure, this video sums it up fairly well.


https://youtu.be/2HRKjwEVb2o

A YouTube link and several unsubstantiated 'proof' posts, oh Dave you never learn do you

Tell me how

Biafranlivemat wrote: »

Democrats Ask Biden To Surrender Keys On Nuclear Launches.

I didn't know, that other Democrats had realized that Biden was that unstable. Good news.

"House Democrats have asked President Joe Biden to give other officials the authority to launch nuclear weapons, an action which he currently has sole authority to do. California Rep. Jimmy Panetta spearheaded the Monday letter, which was signed by nearly three dozen House Democrats, Politico reported. “Vesting one person with this authority entails real risks,” the letter reads. “

https://michaelsavage.com/democrats-ask-biden-to-surrender-keys-on-nuclear-launches/

Is that what you think happened?

salmocab

Tell me how wrote: »

Is that what you think happened?

It’s almost like the poster doesn’t understand what they posted.

12gauge dave

duploelabs wrote: »

A YouTube link and several unsubstantiated 'proof' posts, oh Dave you never learn do you

The proof is the pudding me ole mucker 🙂

everlast75

This was the post I was replying to;

Quantum Baloney wrote: »

They started locking children up under Obama, when Biden was VP, so of course as president he's gonna sit twiddling his fingers. The Democrats built the cages in the first place.

This is what I said..

everlast75 wrote: »

You literally haven't a clue what you are talking about

Before replying to QB, I checked the post history to see whether the poster was posting in good faith or not. This is what I saw...

Quantum Baloney wrote: »

I think that at base level, for me to agree that this was a serious attempt at a coup, rather than just a protest that became messy, I would expect to see a lot more guns involved. Americans love their guns but I don't think that anyone who stormed the Capitol Building was seen with one. If they are armed then the whole picture is different and then you have your coup for sure. But they weren't.

Quantum Baloney wrote: »

He's right insofar as that it was actually the Democrats and not the Republicans that started all this election fraud on a massive scale baloney.

They were the ones who started stirring the pot in 2016 with false allegations about vote-switching in electronic voting machines etc.

Basically, the Democrats can't have their cake and eat it. They are just as bad as the Republicans on this. Maybe worse as they kept at it for Trump's entire term.

Quantum Baloney wrote: »

Just check what Hillary Clinton and the Democrats were saying. There was massive suspicion regarding the transparency of the voting system from their side when Donald Trump won. This whole questioning the validity of the electoral process started with underhandedness from the democrats at the start of the last cycle.

So, I looked at his post in that context. It appears the poster has a particular motive. And rather than spell it out, I posted my reply above.

Now others have chimed in, let me reply more fully.

Yes, "Obama built cages" but as usual, it dismisses

a) what was happening at the time
b) why it was happening
c) his motive for doing so
d) the effect it had
e) the other immigration policies he persisted with, such as catch and release
f) how effective the overall policy was
and, most importantly
g) how anyone who was sentient during the Trump administration has a problem with what Biden is doing yet had no issue with Trump doing far, far, far worse - deliberately, as set out by this poster.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/04/trump-administration-family-separation-immigrants-joe-biden

This post proves that it is demonstrably false to say that Biden is going to sit "twiddling his thumbs". He has already taken action on the policies that Trump/Sessions/Miller were behind.

The difference between Trump and Biden's administration is beyond night and day.

Anyone who says otherwise is either being disingenuous or, as I said, doesn't know that they are talking about.

ohnonotgmail

everlast75 wrote: »

Anyone who says otherwise is either being disingenuous or, as I said, doesn't know that they are talking about.

that is a false dichotomy. It is entirely possible that they are both.

richardkeiths

Biafranlivemat wrote: »

A month in office and the bombing has started.

Not surprised.

klu klux fran in the house

Eric Cartman

astrofool wrote: »

Dave, do you agree with trumps policy of separating children from their parents on purpose, as a means to deter immigration?

Why don't donny supporters ever answer that question? Are they afraid of it?

It was no worse than Obamas policy or now joes policy. People would like to think that there was a period where it was more cruel because they didnt like trump , when its been the same level of moral or evil the whole time and theres no escaping that

extra gravy

richardkeiths wrote: »

klu klux fran in the house

Another "new" poster suddenly dropping in to offer nothing to the discussion except another dumb post. How tedious.

richardkeiths

Eric Cartman wrote: »

It was no worse than Obamas policy or now joes policy. People would like to think that there was a period where it was more cruel because they didnt like trump , when its been the same level of moral or evil the whole time and theres no escaping that

you must be a troll!

richardkeiths

extra gravy wrote: »

Another "new" poster suddenly dropping in to offer nothing to the discussion except another dumb post. How tedious.

people here defending Trump is tedious.

The fox news president will go down in history as possibly the worst.

You guys may want a populist dictator for US president but its not in our interests.

extra gravy

12gauge dave wrote: »

The proof is the pudding me ole mucker 🙂

Why can't you answer the question in your own words instead of posting another stupid reply?

ohnonotgmail

Eric Cartman wrote: »

It was no worse than Obamas policy or now joes policy. People would like to think that there was a period where it was more cruel because they didnt like trump , when its been the same level of moral or evil the whole time and theres no escaping that

separating all children from their parents and then forgetting where you sent their parents is no worse than what happened before?

Professor Moriarty

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that is a false dichotomy. It is entirely possible that they are both.

It's not possible to be disingenuous without knowledge of the truth.

Professor Moriarty

Eric Cartman wrote: »

It was no worse than Obamas policy or now joes policy. People would like to think that there was a period where it was more cruel because they didnt like trump , when its been the same level of moral or evil the whole time and theres no escaping that

Can you explain how Biden's policies are no better than Trump's policies?

Eric Cartman

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Can you explain how Biden's policies are no better than Trump's policies?

Obama built the cages and seperated children, trump did the same, joe is doing the same. The policy is the same level of badness under all 3 presidents.

ohnonotgmail

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

It's not possible to be disingenuous without knowledge of the truth.

entirely possible. you can erroneously think you understand a situation and be disingenuous in how you discuss it based on your understanding.

everlast75

Eric Cartman wrote: »

It was no worse than Obamas policy or now joes policy. People would like to think that there was a period where it was more cruel because they didnt like trump , when its been the same level of moral or evil the whole time and theres no escaping that

This just in;

Separating children as a deterrent for people coming into the country is exactly the same as ceasing this policy.

Carelessly losing people in the system is exactly the same as setting up a group to locate and reunite their kids with their parents.

Using "caravans" of immigrants as a stunt around election times is exactly the same as not doing that.

everlast75

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Obama built the cages and seperated children, trump did the same, joe is doing the same. The policy is the same level of badness under all 3 presidents.

Myself and another poster have explained exactly how they are not the same and then you post this.

richardkeiths

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Obama built the cages and seperated children, trump did the same, joe is doing the same. The policy is the same level of badness under all 3 presidents.

Did Trump openly oppose and actively sever ties to any progressive legislation.

Yes, yes he did.

Did he incite a riot?

Did he actively use the divide in American for personal and political gain?

Did he use right wing media to legitimise a narrative of lies?

Certainly.

Did the man suggest bleach could defeat coronavirus?

Amazingly, yes.

The Russian had to have something on Trump the way he shied away from any criticism towards them.

May I ask where you go for political affairs news and information?

Eric Cartman

everlast75 wrote: »

Myself and another poster have explained exactly how they are not the same and then you post this.

How was it used as a deterrant, what policy change from trump to biden changes it from deterrent to not bad ?

Secondly this ‘carelessly misplacing parents’ sounds like a lefty conspiracy theory rather than an intentional policy


I see no difference between what trump and biden are doing with kids in cages

extra gravy

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Obama built the cages and seperated children, trump did the same, joe is doing the same. The policy is the same level of badness under all 3 presidents.

You Trumpsters will stoop to any level to defend him, it's quite something .

Professor Moriarty

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

entirely possible. you can erroneously think you understand a situation and be disingenuous in how you discuss it based on your understanding.

That would be ignorance and self-delusion. If you don't know the truth, you can't be deceitful about the truth. Being disingenuous is having knowledge but pretending to know less than you know.

Eric Cartman

richardkeiths wrote: »

Did Trump openly oppose and actively sever ties to any progressive legislation.

Yes, yes he did.

Did he incite a riot?

Did he actively use the divide in American for personal and political gain?

Did he use right wing media to legitimise a narrative of lies?

Certainly.

Did the man suggest bleach could defeat coronavirus?

Amazingly, yes.

The Russian had to have something on Trump the way he shied away from any criticism towards them.

May I ask where you go for political affairs news and information?

None of that is related to kids in cages, we’re not discussing trump in general, only the kids in cages

richardkeiths

Eric Cartman wrote: »

None of that is related to kids in cages, we’re not discussing trump in general, only the kids in cages

and where are you sourcing the information on that?

Eric Cartman

extra gravy wrote: »

You Trumpsters will stoop to any level to defend him, it's quite something .

“Biden is also bad for putting kids in cages” is not a defense of trump