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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #1232
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Somebody tell Anthony Staines the highest estimate is now 0.8 :pac:

    Ack! Now I might owe Mr Staines an apology?

    Nolan just said it was between 0.6 and 0.9. :o


  • #1233
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    froog wrote: »
    what the hell is up with these ISAG guys? is there another agenda going on there?

    Seems genuinely sinister. Would be grand if they were just fringe loons but they're given such a platform by the media its quite concerning


  • #1234
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Ronan Glynn now with the new virus line

    "Dr Glynn said basically we have a new virus and need to see how things go over the coming weeks. "


  • #1235
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Ronan Glynn now with the new virus line

    "Dr Glynn said basically we have a new virus and need to see how things go over the coming weeks. "

    And these people expect to be taken seriously......


  • #1236
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 232 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mloc123 wrote: »
    I skimmed the thread... but essentially they locked people into the slums?

    There was a guy on here a couple of days ago howling that we should imprison anyone who tested positive, and also imprison all their immediate family.

    Third World responses aren't far away when people have whipped themselves into a frenzy of terror.
    mcburns07 wrote: »
    I can't understand why this drop isn't being talked about more widely. I guess it's too positive therefore "boring" in the eyes of the media.

    Something which has been entirely absent from RTÉ's "ALL WILL PERISH!" narrative in the past couple of days is that Ireland has moved from Really Really Really Really Red to Quite Red on the ECDC's Europe-wide map which tracks the prevalence of infection in each country based on a matrix of 14-day incidence/100k x case positivity rate.

    I project we are likely to move on to Orange by the end of next week.
    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Ronan Glynn now with the new virus line

    "Dr Glynn said basically we have a new virus and need to see how things go over the coming weeks. "

    Heard the next two weeks are critical and we need to #holdfirm and #flattenthecurve!


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  • #1237
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    And these people expect to be taken seriously......

    New virus seems to be overtaking variant as the new buzzword to use


  • #1238
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    New virus seems to be overtaking variant as the new buzzword to use

    Martin was the first I heard refer to a new virus, followed by that clown Ryan.


  • #1239
    lee_baby_simms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    froog wrote: »
    what the hell is up with these ISAG guys? is there another agenda going on there?

    The whole zero Covid movement is a strange one, light on actual detail but full on fear and doom.

    Ryan and Staines in particular have never been able to provide a coherent reply to any questions regarding a zero Covid strategy and the border with the north.


  • #1240
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,590 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Good briefing. Much better than the UK ones. +1 to NPHET.


  • #1241
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,105 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    Anyone else just feeling very bloody bleak about it all? I was okay for previous lockdowns but I'm struggling badly with this one.

    I've done the right stuff and reached out to my GP (who's as useful as a chocolate tea pot and has refused to see a single patient since the pandemic started, but will happily take your 60 euro for a 2 minute phone call), been told I could be waiting over a year for counselling because of waiting lists, can't currently afford private treatment thanks to my hours being massively cut because I work hospitality.

    Not able to go for a walk with a friend because the relative I live with is so terrified from RTE headlines that I'll be kicked out, I'm already questioned about where I am if I take five minutes extra to get food shopping - and I'm their caregiver so moving out at the moment isn't an option.


    So there's feck all else really I can do. A person close to me is so fecked they've been sectioned. A few took their own lives over the past year.


    I've had many, many relatives with covid (because they work in hospitals, it was inevitable), the I've had one die from covid, but fcuk me, the impact upon the mental health of my friends, family and I is much, much worse than the impact of covid itself from what I've seen.

    Vaccines are here, there is a path out of this and light emerging.

    To be honest I feel more positive this time because I can see life after this.


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  • #1242
    CruelSummer
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    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Good briefing. Much better than the UK ones. +1 to NPHET.

    They nearly escaped without George Lee asking hysterical questions but he managed to catch them at the end re Californian variant & is it true that’s it’s the worst thing ever to come onto this earth.


  • #1243
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,993 ✭✭✭Russman


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Good briefing. Much better than the UK ones. +1 to NPHET.

    Most positive one in a good while.
    Easy for the experts on here to take selected phrases and quotes from it to dismiss them, but in its totality it’s made me a lot more optimistic.


  • #1244
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,234 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Good briefing. Much better than the UK ones. +1 to NPHET.

    I thought George Lee's questions were great. Very insightful.


  • #1245
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

    If this is the kind of guff they're going to be at, I won't be bothering.

    Very positive press conference this evening. Very good presentation on vaccine impact and Dr Glynn clarified the comments from the NPHET letter.


  • #1246
    kilns
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Ireland's 14 day Covid rate is way below the EU average. The question has to be asked of the government what figure is enough


  • #1247
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,312 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Good briefing. Ronan Glynn was very good - matter of fact, but not dogmatic.

    That journo from the Independent is a pain the arse though. Every time she's there she's passive aggressively looking for a "gotcha" moment. Her repetitive questions about why they couldn't provide a precise date for herd immunity were infuriating.

    Unintentional comedy gold from George Lee at the end - butting in when they were about to head off and asking more panicked versions of the exact same questions another journalist had asked earlier.


  • #1248
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Vaccines are here, there is a path out of this and light emerging.

    To be honest I feel more positive this time because I can see life after this.

    I kinda put my focus on the impending vaccines back in October, and it kept me sane.

    Not so much now, given how every second day it's stuff about AZ supply issues, some warehouse thing burned down last month iirc, and so on. Even the vaccine rollout has been fraught with fear mongering.

    And to be completely honest, I think once someone has reached the level of perhaps clinical depression and anxiety (I've had them in the past so I'm pretty sure that's where I'm at now), all of the "it'll be fine, vaccines are here" stuff isn't gonna fix your mindset when it's still a long aul time away.


  • #1249
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,590 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    I've done the right stuff and reached out to my GP (who's as useful as a chocolate tea pot and has refused to see a single patient since the pandemic started, but will happily take your 60 euro for a 2 minute phone call)

    I've seen my GP at least twice over the past year. Your experience sounds awful.

    Try to find a new GP, they cannot just turn you away like that, and yeah, reaching counselling services has always been terrible in this country, I can't even imagine how bad it is now.


  • #1250
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,993 ✭✭✭Russman


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    I kinda put my focus on the impending vaccines back in October, and it kept me sane.

    Not so much now, given how every second day it's stuff about AZ supply issues, some warehouse thing burned down last month iirc, and so on. Even the vaccine rollout has been fraught with fear mongering

    Stay sane, this thing will be over in the summer.


  • #1251
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,608 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    How is Offaly so high again, meat plant?
    https://forumofgames.com/




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  • #1252
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    I've seen my GP at least twice over the past year. Your experience sounds awful.

    Try to find a new GP, they cannot just turn you away like that, and yeah, reaching counselling services has always been terrible in this country, I can't even imagine how bad it is now.

    I'm trying to get into a GP next to my job, just waiting til they have free space. :)

    Mine's been particularly awful. Had an issue with nerve damage after an operation, she took 60 euro from me for a phone call to tell me she can't see me and to talk to my surgeon.

    Another time I had an infection after surgery - she refused to see me, got me to diagnose it over the phone and asked what antibiotics I needed :pac:


    Mental health treatment is a disgrace. I went private years and years ago when I needed it, but that's not an option while I'm on reduced hours unfortunately!


  • #1253
    TheDoctor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭TheDoctor


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    How is Offaly so high again, meat plant?

    Their case numbers are offaly high.


  • #1254
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Vaccine green cards in Israel getting complicated. They just passed a law to allow health authorities to share personal info with other authorities.
    Under the law the Health Ministry can provide the name, national identification number, phone number and address of any citizen who is entitled to be vaccinated but hasn't yet received a shot to the individual's local government, the national Education Ministry and the Welfare Ministry, if any of those authorities ask for the information.

    The Health Ministry has been issuing Israelis who've been inoculated or recovered from COVID-19 with a so-called "Green Pass." Only those who carry the pass can get into the country's recently-reopened hotels, gyms, swimming pools, theaters and concert halls.

    Under the new law, anyone eligible to get a Green Pass who opts not to could soon find themselves facing even more restrictions, as they could be outed by the Health Ministry to other authorities as vaccine-resisters.

    Gene Simmons approves but do you.

    https://twitter.com/genesimmons/status/1365010846183690245?s=20


  • #1255
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    I said the other day (yesterday? I don't know. can't keep track anymore) that I must start watching these again to keep up to speed.

    If this is the kind of guff they're going to be at, I won't be bothering.

    It is though for all intents and purposes a new virus. You take any scenario of infection and the characteristics now will be markedly different to how they would have been before.

    Martin wasn't even the first. Numerous experts in other countries have used the 'new virus' analogy.

    I do think you made a very fair point about how that may impact people's perceptions of the vaccines. Up until I read that I didn't see any issue with the terminlogy. Now I kind of do. I still don't think it's a "guff" use of language though. People need to be aware that March 2020 and March 2021 have two very different types of transmission profiles.


  • #1256
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    I kinda put my focus on the impending vaccines back in October, and it kept me sane.

    Not so much now, given how every second day it's stuff about AZ supply issues, some warehouse thing burned down last month iirc, and so on. Even the vaccine rollout has been fraught with fear mongering.

    And to be completely honest, I think once someone has reached the level of perhaps clinical depression and anxiety (I've had them in the past so I'm pretty sure that's where I'm at now), all of the "it'll be fine, vaccines are here" stuff isn't gonna fix your mindset when it's still a long aul time away.

    Could I suggest you seek some online counseling? Apologies if I have overstepped the mark. I understand to a degree what you are going through and I understand that platitudes whilst well meaning and said with good intentions are meaningless to you or anyone else who is struggling.
    I will offer one piece of advice be careful where you source your information. It is difficult to find any information which is not bias or pushing an agenda.


  • #1257
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,590 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    I'm trying to get into a GP next to my job, just waiting til they have free space. :)

    Mine's been particularly awful. Had an issue with nerve damage after an operation, she took 60 euro from me for a phone call to tell me she can't see me and to talk to my surgeon.

    Another time I had an infection after surgery - she refused to see me, got me to diagnose it over the phone and asked what antibiotics I needed :pac:


    Mental health treatment is a disgrace. I went private years and years ago when I needed it, but that's not an option while I'm on reduced hours unfortunately!

    I really hope it works out for you. Please mind yourself. This country can be such a kip of a place when it comes to essential support in all kinds of areas. Really terrible :(


  • #1258
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,070 ✭✭✭✭fits


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    I'm trying to get into a GP next to my job, just waiting til they have free space. :)

    Mine's been particularly awful. Had an issue with nerve damage after an operation, she took 60 euro from me for a phone call to tell me she can't see me and to talk to my surgeon.

    Another time I had an infection after surgery - she refused to see me, got me to diagnose it over the phone and asked what antibiotics I needed :pac:


    Mental health treatment is a disgrace. I went private years and years ago when I needed it, but that's not an option while I'm on reduced hours unfortunately!


    I’m more optimistic right now than at any stage over the last year. I travelled to uk at the end of last February and I was in fear of catching this thing all the time. (Luckily I didn’t). All the vaccination news is really good. It will be ok. Hospitality will be booming after this. Just hang in there another while.


  • #1259
    thebronze14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    I'd prefer not to give birth to them but, yeah, people wearing masks in solo photos is very odd.
    I feel embarrassed for people when they make mistakes like that... That was awful from me!


  • #1260
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,590 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    fits wrote: »
    I’m more optimistic right now than at any stage over the last year. I travelled to uk at the end of last February and I was in fear of catching this thing all the time. (Luckily I didn’t). All the vaccination news is really good. It will be ok. Hospitality will be booming after this. Just hang in there another while.

    I'm optimistic too. I can understand why people are so fed up, and really struggling too, it just has gone on so long.

    Lock down should never be for months. It's inhumane.

    But that's where we landed because of poor decisions in December.


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  • #1261
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Could I suggest you seek some online counseling? Apologies if I have overstepped the mark. I understand to a degree what you are going through and I understand that platitudes whilst well meaning and said with good intentions are meaningless to you or anyone else who is struggling.
    I will offer one piece of advice be careful where you source your information. It is difficult to find any information which is not bias or pushing an agenda.

    You're not overstepping at all, thank you :) I'm looking into that next, I'm not sure if it's feasible considering I've essentially zero privacy where I am, but it's something I'm trying to source in a way that'd work for my own situation.

    I'm careful where I get my information. I don't follow the rubbish that people spout on FB thankfully :pac:


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