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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #1082
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,050 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Dubit11 wrote: »
    Swabs very high :mad:

    FFS!


  • #1083
    Le Bruise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    Coybig_ wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nphet-says-normal-life-some-way-off-and-vaccination-unlikely-to-fully-halt-covid-19-1.4494969?mode=amp

    NPHET letter leaked to government where they describe normal as "some way off".

    Good luck with that, our neighbours are currently returning to normal in 4 months.

    Also details deficiencies in the health service. Still yet to be even remotely close to being sorted, despite the government having a year to do so. Shambolic.


    The team also warned again of the higher risk associated with certain activities including “dining, drinking, exercising, singing or shouting”. I'd say the Nphet Christmas party is some craic....


  • #1084
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,500 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Dubit11 wrote: »
    Swabs very high :mad:

    No they're not. Cop on


  • #1085
    Coybig_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭Coybig_


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    It will be hard for them to adjust come Summer

    They are an absolute disgrace, with Tony Holohan allowed to dictate as he pleases.

    Case in point is Tony Holohan going against NIAC and their recommendations RE Astrazenica. His decision looks more abysmal with each passing day and the data emerging. You're not allowed to mention his past disgraces on here either but given that the government have all but handed over leadership of the country to NPHET, serious questions must be asked.


  • #1086
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    It will be hard for them to adjust come Summer

    It will be hard for them to adjust come this weekend. A lot of pubs opening for takeaway pints and the weather looks good.

    People are sort of done with it now. Government need to step up. Increased socialising is happening whether they like it or not.


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  • #1087
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Coybig_ wrote: »
    They are an absolute disgrace, with Tony Holohan allowed to dictate as he pleases.

    Case in point is Tony Holohan going against NIAC and their recommendations RE Astrazenica. His decision looks more abysmal with each passing day and the data emerging. You're not allowed to mention his past disgraces on here either but given that the government have all but handed over leadership of the country to NPHET, serious questions must be asked.

    NPHET did not go against NIAC on AZ.

    The guidance will likely not be limited to AZ only. Once more viral vector vaccines get approved the guidance from NIAC may still remain to have vulnerable cohorts vaccinated by MRNA vaccines where a timely intervention is possible


  • #1088
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    More positivity, because that's the mood I'm in:

    The last time we had a positivity rate over 6% was 10th February
    The last time we had more than 1,000 positive was was 13th February
    The last time we had more than 900 swabs was now more than a week ago; 17th Feb.

    Today's rate is the lowest positivity rate in 70 days.

    14-day average is 795, 7-day average is 737, 5-day average is 696.


  • #1089
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,345 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1364947074425499652?s=20

    Outbreaks in hospitals dropping, vaccine kicking in already......


  • #1090
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,144 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1364947074425499652?s=20

    Outbreaks in hospitals dropping, vaccine kicking in already......

    Two days ago we were talking about the death of hope, but aren't these, as well as today's positivity data extremely positive.

    Certainly points to a more joyous summer :)


  • #1091
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


      IrishStuff09 wrote: »
      https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1364944244180455428

      7 day positivity drops below 5% to 4.8!

      Good progress

      Hopefully we'll see a sub 4% day soon


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    2. #1092
      seamus
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


      KrustyUCC wrote: »

        Good progress

        Hopefully we'll see a sub 4% day soon
        If I was a gambling man, tomorrow would be the most likely day to see a sub-4% over the next week.


      1. #1093
        [Deleted User]
        Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


        Stateofyou wrote: »
        They specifically recommended up to Sr. Infants, don't be disingenuous.

        https://www.gov.ie/en/collection/ba4aa0-letters-from-the-cmo-to-the-minister-for-health/
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        5. A cautious and sustainable approach should be adopted in relation to the easing of measures. Subject to
        continued improvement to the end of February 2021, there should, however, be scope to faciliate the
        safe return of in-school education and childcare services but this must be on a cautious and phased
        basis. It is also critical that non-COVID health and social care services are resumed. All efforts should be
        made to ensure that these measures are associated with a minimum level of linked mobility, and in
        particular, it will be essential that all those working from home continue to do so.

        NPHET don't claim to have the expertise to decide which years should return, just that it should be phased


      2. #1094
        Coybig_
        Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭Coybig_


        Worrying reports from CSO today.

        41.7 percent of those polled out of 1621 people rated their life satisfaction levels as low. For comparison, this never went above 15.3 percent previously.

        74.4 percent of people between 18-34 said that their mental health had been impacted negatively, with 20.5 percent of 18-34 year olds reporting that they were depressed "all or most of the time."

        The sh*tstorm that awaits down the line from this could be very troubling. I guess when you sacrifice literally every aspect of life for Covid, this is what happens.

        At least these people have their whole lives to look forward to, paying off the billions borrowed to fund this!


      3. #1095
        timmyntc
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,652 ✭✭✭timmyntc


        Coybig_ wrote: »
        Worrying reports from CSO today.

        41.7 percent of those polled out of 1621 people rated their life satisfaction levels as low. For comparison, this never went above 15.3 percent previously.

        74.4 percent of people between 18-34 said that their mental health had been impacted negatively, with 20.5 percent of 18-34 year olds reporting that they were depressed "all or most of the time."

        The sh*tstorm that awaits down the line from this could be very troubling. I guess when you sacrifice literally every aspect of life for Covid, this is what happens.

        At least these people have their whole lives to look forward to, paying off the billions borrowed to fund this!

        More worrying is that 26.4% of people think the current restrictions are not strict enough!


      4. #1096
        Jim_Hodge
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,295 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


        Dubit11 wrote: »
        Swabs very high :mad:

        If that's meant to be a joke or satire it has failed miserably .


      5. #1097
        mloc123
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


        Coybig_ wrote: »
        Worrying reports from CSO today.

        41.7 percent of those polled out of 1621 people rated their life satisfaction levels as low. For comparison, this never went above 15.3 percent previously.

        74.4 percent of people between 18-34 said that their mental health had been impacted negatively, with 20.5 percent of 18-34 year olds reporting that they were depressed "all or most of the time."

        The sh*tstorm that awaits down the line from this could be very troubling. I guess when you sacrifice literally every aspect of life for Covid, this is what happens.

        At least these people have their whole lives to look forward to, paying off the billions borrowed to fund this!


        And the 100yr(+) olds that got their vaccine a few weeks ago can die from natural casuses, alone in a few months time anyway...


      6. #1098
        mloc123
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


        wadacrack wrote: »
        This is how India's cases dropped so dramatically. It shows how effective public health interventions can be.

        https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1364935235255881733

        I skimmed the thread... but essentially they locked people into the slums?


      7. #1099
        KrustyUCC
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


        Eod100 wrote: »
        Varadkar tweeting about a standard EU vaccine certificate. Wonder what that involves?

        https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1364939985586171905

        That seems sensible to have one EU standard

        Might allow for the reopening of the economy and the return of holiday flights


      8. #1100
        Stateofyou
        Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


        Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
        How am I trolling???

        Apologies I thought you were a teacher.

        You keep asking the same questions and people are giving you all the information at hand from NHPET etc.

        But you still don't take those answers.

        So I wrongly assumed you were a teacher and said if you're that worried then don't go into school and you are entitled to do that.

        Trolling I wasn't.

        By the way many people are keeping their kids off so you wouldn't be alone.

        Maybe stop replying to me, JJ. I am not asking the same questions, and no one is giving "all the information at hand from NPHET" before I have asked anything, so you're going nowhere with that BS.

        You have accused me of being a teacher several times now. We've had it out before and you've been banned for your carryon. Please stop replying to my posts as I've never seen a helpful one from you, would appreciate you putting me on ignore and I will do the same.


      9. #1101
        timmyntc
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,652 ✭✭✭timmyntc


        mloc123 wrote: »
        And the 100yr(+) olds that got their vaccine a few weeks ago can die from natural casuses, alone in a few months time anyway...

        Yup - only 32% of 70+ age group felt that pandemic affected their mental health. While they may be most at risk, they are the ones who suffer the least because of the restrictions.


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      11. #1102
        Jinglejangle69
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,171 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


        Stateofyou wrote: »
        Maybe stop replying to me, JJ. I am not asking the same questions, and no one is giving "all the information at hand from NPHET" before I have asked anything, so you're going nowhere with that BS.

        You have accused me of being a teacher several times now. We've had it out before and you've been banned for your carryon. Please stop replying to my posts as I've never seen a helpful one from you, would appreciate you putting me on ignore and I will do the same.

        No bother.

        For the record I genuinely forgot you aren't a teacher.

        Believe it or not I don't keep notes on every poster on Boards.

        Anyway have a good day.


      12. #1103
        Coybig_
        Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭Coybig_


        timmyntc wrote: »
        More worrying is that 26.4% of people think the current restrictions are not strict enough!

        Idle speculation, but:

        Might be some correlation between the elderly and that statistic, given that the amount of those aged 70 and above who described their mental health as having worsened as just 32.4 percent as opposed to the 74.4 percent of those aged 18-34.

        There is also the fact that people drawing pensions are not impacted by restrictions in the same way as those in the workforce or in education.

        Though on the restrictions point, when RTE and the media have been a propaganda machine, wheeling out the likes of McConkey and Tomas Ryan on a weekly basis - is it any wonder that some of the population have listened to their gibberish? People have been bombarded with this stuff and the other side of the argument had rarely if ever gotten a mention.


      13. #1104
        Mitch Connor
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,386 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


        timmyntc wrote: »
        More worrying is that 26.4% of people think the current restrictions are not strict enough!

        people are fixated on the dublin airport problem, and are ignoring the reality of everything else.

        The narrative I'm seeing a lot is 'L5 is BS while there are thousands of people arriving every day', rather than 'L5 is BS'.


      14. #1105
        Tyrone212
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭Tyrone212


        Coybig_ wrote: »
        Worrying reports from CSO today.

        41.7 percent of those polled out of 1621 people rated their life satisfaction levels as low. For comparison, this never went above 15.3 percent previously.

        74.4 percent of people between 18-34 said that their mental health had been impacted negatively, with 20.5 percent of 18-34 year olds reporting that they were depressed "all or most of the time."

        The sh*tstorm that awaits down the line from this could be very troubling. I guess when you sacrifice literally every aspect of life for Covid, this is what happens.

        At least these people have their whole lives to look forward to, paying off the billions borrowed to fund this!

        I'd say most people are fed up rather than depressed. Mental health term has been abused to the balls. I wonder how long it will take after the pandemic to end for some people who constantly go on about mental now to start referring to anyone with issues as a snowflake man up etc again. Not too long at all.


      15. #1106
        seamus
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


        KrustyUCC wrote: »
        That seems sensible to have one EU standard

        Might allow for the reopening of the economy and the return of holiday flights
        In terms of a "standard" it would likely be standard like the driving licence. That is, the data on the vaccination certificate would follow a common format so that anyone can read it, but it would be issued by each member state.
        IMO the main component would likely be a single database where a reference number can queried to confirm vaccination status.

        We already do this for VAT Numbers - each member state maintains its own database, and the EU system queries them through a common API contract.

        https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vieshome.do?locale=en

        No reason the same can't be done for vaccinations.


      16. #1107
        nsnoefc1878
        Closed Accounts Posts: 596 ✭✭✭nsnoefc1878


        timmyntc wrote: »
        Yup - only 32% of 70+ age group felt that pandemic affected their mental health. While they may be most at risk, they are the ones who suffer the least because of the restrictions.

        That 32% is still a lot of people.


      17. #1108
        CoronaBlocker
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭CoronaBlocker


        seamus wrote: »
        In terms of a "standard" it would likely be standard like the driving licence. That is, the data on the vaccination certificate would follow a common format so that anyone can read it, but it would be issued by each member state.
        IMO the main component would likely be a single database where a reference number can queried to confirm vaccination status.

        We already do this for VAT Numbers - each member state maintains its own database, and the EU system queries them through a common API contract.

        https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vieshome.do?locale=en

        No reason the same can't be done for vaccinations.

        Yes, but is that a road that we really want to go down? What could something like this become or evolve into later on down the line. I have to admit, I'm uncomfortable with something like a vaccine certificate.


      18. #1109
        Mitch Connor
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,386 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


        seamus wrote: »
        In terms of a "standard" it would likely be standard like the driving licence. That is, the data on the vaccination certificate would follow a common format so that anyone can read it, but it would be issued by each member state.
        IMO the main component would likely be a single database where a reference number can queried to confirm vaccination status.

        We already do this for VAT Numbers - each member state maintains its own database, and the EU system queries them through a common API contract.

        https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vieshome.do?locale=en

        No reason the same can't be done for vaccinations.

        You could have charged the government thousands and thousands in consultancy fees for what you have written there.

        And that is not me throwing shade at you - the goverment will 100% spend a fortune to be told what you have written there.


      19. #1110
        timmyntc
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,652 ✭✭✭timmyntc


        nsnoefc1878 wrote: »
        That 32% is still a lot of people.

        Compare that to 70% of younger group - we are punishing the many for the lives of the few, the few who dont have to deal with the long term consequences.

        Pensioners are not going to have to pay back the massive public debts we have accrued


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      21. #1111
        timmyntc
        Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,652 ✭✭✭timmyntc


        Mitch Connor wrote: »
        people are fixated on the dublin airport problem, and are ignoring the reality of everything else.

        The narrative I'm seeing a lot is 'L5 is BS while there are thousands of people arriving every day', rather than 'L5 is BS'.

        The most popular narrative I'm seeing is "This isn't a *Real* lockdown, look at all the traffic and people outside!"

        Delusional people


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