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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #752
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Looks like projections for case numbers have been revised.

    https://twitter.com/ciananbrennan/status/1364617176901169152
    Prof Nolan revised those numbers at last Thursday press briefing.


  • #753
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,277 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    seamus wrote: »
    That letter was written a week ago to be fair. Journos always go with "The latest letter from NPHET" and conveniently forget to mention that it's already a week out of date.

    Interesting data here virus spread in various scenarios;
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776937

    TL;DR: The worst offenders for causing viral spread are as one would expect, Restaurants, Bars, Churches and .... Gyms.

    Granted the data is from the US, where Gym culture and Gym etiquette might be very different. But still, it goes to show that reopening Gyms may not be the low-risk action that gym goers believe it is.

    Yeah the link in the lower tweet has full letter with date. Usually a week or so between sending and publication online.


  • #754
    muddypuppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭muddypuppy


    The letter is very interesting. I'm still going in it, but it confirms that close contact testing is finding quite a bit of cases. 1783 positives from the 1st to the 7th of February, So around ~20% of the cases that week were close contacts.


  • #755
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,680 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Anyone listening to Drivetime?
    It seems the mandatory hotel quarantining plan is falling apart already. The Gardai in particular are very unhappy that they haven't been consulted on it by anyone. The AGSI have asked McEntee for a meeting for weeks but were ignored.

    More chaos on the horizon.

    Nobody from government was available to come on Radio 1 and explain the quarantine plan. No surprise there.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #756
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,961 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    blowitupref wrote: »
    Now that we have another 6 weeks of level 5 restrictions to come can the national media give a few weeks off to Sam McConkey, Thomas Ryan, Anthony Staines, Gerry Killeen and Gabriel Scally.

    4zb74c.jpg


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  • #757
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,702 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Michael McNamara and Edgar Morgenroth on Today FM

    Matt Cooper questioning if it’ll be worthwhile reopening if 2000 people from Covid.

    I do worry that the fear driving of the media is going to lead us to defer reopening to make sure no one dies of Covid. There seems to be a complete unwillingness to accept that Covid is never going away and that living with Covid means that some people will die from it. Same as people die for a plethora of other reasons and did so before the pandemic.

    Once everyone is vaccinated and the most is done from a pharmaceutical point of view to minimise the impact of Covid, we need to reopen. We can’t stay under house arrest afraid of this forever.


  • #758
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    Anyone listening to Drivetime?
    It seems the mandatory hotel quarantining plan is falling apart already. The Gardai in particular are very unhappy that they haven't been consulted on it by anyone. The AGSI have asked McEntee for a meeting for weeks but were ignored.

    More chaos on the horizon.

    Nobody from government was available to come on Radio 1 and explain the quarantine plan. No surprise there.
    My own feeling is that they are very reluctantly doing it; FG are against the idea based on last year and the rest are just stumbling slowly towards something they are being forced into.


  • #759
    Sanjuro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    is_that_so wrote: »
    My own feeling is that they are very reluctantly doing it; FG are against the idea based on last year and the rest are just stumbling slowly towards something they are being forced into.

    Why would they be against it


  • #760
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Stephen Donnelly on the news there saying “we have a plan, we need to stick to it”

    Do we?
    Plans give clarity, there is no clarity at all with what they’ve given to us and actually things have never been murkier. Business owners are still none the wiser as to when they may be permitted to reopen, will it be the end of April, May or June? Nobody knows. A level of uncertainty is understandable when it comes to this, but for him to say “we have a plan” with such confidence is so inaccurate and deluded.


  • #761
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    Why would they be against it
    Last year they didn't view it something we do.


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  • #762
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    I think they're stalling in the hope that things improve before it's actually brought in. I get how conspiracy theory-ish that sounds, but it's been weeks away for months at this stage.
    Yep, that sounds like the plan.


  • #763
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,057 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    muddypuppy wrote: »
    The letter is very interesting. I'm still going in it, but it confirms that close contact testing is finding quite a bit of cases. 1783 positives from the 1st to the 7th of February, So around ~20% of the cases that week were close contacts.

    Makes me think. The PCR test can find positive from weeks ago so seems like there's a good chance the tests are finding people who got covid in December and Christmas and weren't found positive then as we suspended close contact testing


  • #764
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 57,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    retro:electro wrote: »
    Stephen Donnelly on the news there saying “we have a plan, we need to stick to it”

    Do we?
    Plans give clarity, there is no clarity at all with what they’ve given to us and actually things have never been murkier. Business owners are still none the wiser as to when they may be permitted to reopen, will it be the end of April, May or June? Nobody knows. A level of uncertainty is understandable when it comes to this, but for him to say “we have a plan” with such confidence is so inaccurate and deluded.

    I think they are cautiously hoping to relax some outdoors restrictions from 5th April. Looking at the current trajectory in numbers that seems about the right time to relax, say - the 5k limit, construction starting up properly again etc.

    All assuming that we don't see any major spikes in the interim mind - but I think the staggered reopening of schools will help to limit this somewhat.

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



  • #765
    poppers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭poppers


    Once Mandatory quaratine comes in its going to be very hard to get it lifted, the Media and dare i say it he oppisition will be going mad in the summer when numbers arelow here and irish people living abroad want to come home but cannot, Aus& NZ still have a waiting list of thousands of their own citizens waiting to get home 12 months later.

    this will not just stop Brazilians and SA coming here.
    of the 20 countries at the minute how many have direct flight to ire.


  • #766
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    ShyMets wrote: »
    Do not feed

    He's on every thread with this ****e. Completely see through, pretending to be earnest about everything.


  • #767
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    4zb74c.jpg

    Experts in how to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty?


  • #768
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    titan18 wrote: »
    Makes me think. The PCR test can find positive from weeks ago so seems like there's a good chance the tests are finding people who got covid in December and Christmas and weren't found positive then as we suspended close contact testing

    It is much more likely that they have just aquired or passed on covid to the symptomatic person that had the initial positive test that prompted their referal for a covid test.


  • #769
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It would probably be better for us not to listen to Alan Kelly at all! I wonder if those vaccines are of the non-AZ variety? Belgium too is running into problems with people refusing it.

    I've little time for Kelly but if others aren't using vaccines buy as much of it as we can

    The sooner we get vaccines into people here the better

    The government will claw the money back from stopping pup payments a bit earlier


  • #770
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,924 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    What's the case numbers today.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #771
    stephenjmcd
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    574 cases & 56 deaths. 31 of these deaths occurred in February, 13 occurred in January, 3 in December or earlier while, a further 9 are under investigation.


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  • #772
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,924 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    A shocking amount of deaths still.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #773
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,961 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    574 cases & 56 deaths. 31 of these deaths occurred in February, 13 occurred in January, 3 in December or earlier while, a further 9 are under investigation.

    Death toll seems to fluctuate wildly, without any particular correlation to case numbers for the day in question...


  • #774
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    RIP

    Good case total for a Wednesday but cases lower than the swabs


  • #775
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭harr


    Anyone have a reason I can understand why deaths aren’t falling like cases or hospital numbers. Surely by now we should be seeing the end of the high deaths caused the the Christmas spike ?
    Are all deaths recent or a delay in reporting deaths ..
    Percentage Of deaths seems high compared to hospitals numbers.


  • #776
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1364634958086742023


  • #777
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,624 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    A shocking amount of deaths still.

    RIP

    I thought all care homes and hospice patients would be vaccinated by now
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #778
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    muddypuppy wrote: »
    The letter is very interesting. I'm still going in it, but it confirms that close contact testing is finding quite a bit of cases. 1783 positives from the 1st to the 7th of February, So around ~20% of the cases that week were close contacts.

    This was the bit I found most relevant to giving an indication for when things can start to relax via vaccination.
    In addition, a difference can be observed in the age profiles of those who have been admitted to hospital and critical care and those who have died (47% of those hospitalised and 69% of those in ICU have been under
    70, while only 13% of deaths have been in those under 70), and, as such, it can be anticipated that vaccination will not have as significant an impact on hospitalisations initially as it will on mortality as it will take time for
    younger age cohorts to be vaccinated.


  • #779
    blackvalley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 905 ✭✭✭blackvalley


    The nauseating hypocrisy of politics knows no bounds . We now have the Orwellian vista of all the so called left wing parties lined up demanding that all incoming travellers be locked up without any due process .
    Had the government implemented such a policy months ago ( as they should ) the same parties and probably several jump on the band wagon NGOs would now be screaming about civil liberties. :rolleyes:


  • #780
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,172 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    harr wrote: »
    Anyone have a reason I can understand why deaths aren’t falling like cases or hospital numbers. Surely by now we should be seeing the end of the high deaths caused the the Christmas spike ?
    Are all deaths recent or a delay in reporting deaths ..
    Percentage Of deaths seems high compared to hospitals numbers.

    Some from December, January and February.


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  • #781
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,160 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    7-day average in cases is 738 down from 838 last Wednesday.

    7-day average in reported deaths is 29 down from 35 last Wednesday.


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