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Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    lulublue22 wrote: »
    It will be left up to the principal to deploy teacher to support children remotely - either as SET or to cater for children who should be back but won’t etc.

    Children whose parents chose to keep them at home are not entitled to remote support, if their school is open. It's only for very high risk students that such support is allowed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Anyone here teach or have their kids in an educate together school? Just read a discussion online between parents and it seems ET schools offer a remote learning option if parents don't send kids in. Whaaaaaatttt....!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    mdwexford wrote: »
    Businesses reopening are far more important than primary schools.

    You realise the two are linked?

    The economy will struggle to open fully if schools aren't open.

    Not to mention the countless benefits when schools open for children who have suffered over the past 12 months.

    I'd rather see schools open than hairdressers/restaurants. While I feel for those businesses that have had to endure closures, the schools being open is far more important for society in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭BonsaiKitten


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Anyone here teach or have their kids in an educate together school? Just read a discussion online between parents and it seems ET schools offer a remote learning option if parents don't send kids in. Whaaaaaatttt....!!!

    So teachers in ET schools are basically double jobbing? Bit shít for them. Unless all the ET schools have banded together and have set every extremely vulnerable staff member* they have to prepare remote learning for each class group. That'd be a smart move if they did tbh.

    *May not actually be the term, can't remember it but ye get what I mean.


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    combat14 wrote: »
    will primary school students wear masks this time given covid is now 70% more transmissable..... ?

    It’s not. Estimates are closer to 30%. 70% was from when they started blaming all the pre Christmas surge in the uk on the variant. The other 40% was people taking the piss


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Locotastic wrote: »

    I'd rather see schools open than hairdressers.

    The black market barbers/hairdressers will be doing a roaring business before the teachers return!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,649 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    The black market barbers/hairdressers will be doing a roaring business before the teachers return!

    There must be a few sheep shearers available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,295 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Locotastic wrote: »
    You realise the two are linked?

    The economy will struggle to open fully if schools aren't open.

    Not to mention the countless benefits when schools open for children who have suffered over the past 12 months.

    I'd rather see schools open than hairdressers/restaurants. While I feel for those businesses that have had to endure closures, the schools being open is far more important for society in general.

    I do.

    I disagree with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    There must be a few sheep shearers available.

    Judging by some of the haircuts that appeared on zoom yesterday they must be quite blunt!!!

    Now don't anyone start coming at me over that comment as it is clearly made in jest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Ray Donovan


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Anyone here teach or have their kids in an educate together school? Just read a discussion online between parents and it seems ET schools offer a remote learning option if parents don't send kids in. Whaaaaaatttt....!!!

    Probably do it instead of looking after discipline in their schools.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭lulublue22


    Children whose parents chose to keep them at home are not entitled to remote support, if their school is open. It's only for very high risk students that such support is allowed.

    Officially yes but I know of a number in special ed who are being supported during this phase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Can someone tell me why all SET supporting 3rd -6th have to be back in building before their students?
    I will be staring at empty walls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    khalessi wrote: »
    Can someone tell me why all SET supporting 3rd -6th have to be back in building before their students?
    I will be staring at empty walls.

    And SNAs as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    Seems people are not happy with the plan put forward this evening, large scale protests being organised now starting this weekend.

    It only took a year, just shows that as a nation we are quite equable.

    Bar the odd fringe group we haven't had any large scale demonsrations here yet compared to other countries.

    I do think people have had enough now and are angry and fed up and the protests might get more traction as a result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭LittleBrick


    Locotastic wrote: »
    Seems people are not happy with the plan put forward this evening, large scale protests being organised now starting this weekend.

    It only took a year, just shows that as a nation we are quite equable.

    Bar the odd fringe group we haven't had any large scale demonsrations here yet compared to other countries.

    I do think people have had enough now and are angry and fed up and the protests might get more traction as a result.
    Oh please, the only "fringe groups" who have been "protesting" in the middle of this GLOBAL PANDEMIC are anti-vaxxing, COVID denying, Bill Gates blaming, "New World Order" spouting idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭the corpo


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Anyone here teach or have their kids in an educate together school? Just read a discussion online between parents and it seems ET schools offer a remote learning option if parents don't send kids in. Whaaaaaatttt....!!!

    My kids do, this is not a thing I've ever heard of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭the corpo


    Probably do it instead of looking after discipline in their schools.

    What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    Probably do it instead of looking after discipline in their schools.

    Why are ET schools poor on discipline?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,798 ✭✭✭BonsaiKitten


    khalessi wrote: »
    Can someone tell me why all SET supporting 3rd -6th have to be back in building before their students?
    I will be staring at empty walls.

    They do? God, what a waste of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭hesaidshesaid


    khalessi wrote: »
    Can someone tell me why all SET supporting 3rd -6th have to be back in building before their students?
    I will be staring at empty walls.

    I'm the same. It seems crazy that schools wouldn't have any discretion here? I haven't seen the DES guidance.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Locotastic wrote: »
    Seems people are not happy with the plan put forward this evening, large scale protests being organised now starting this weekend.

    It only took a year, just shows that as a nation we are quite equable.

    Bar the odd fringe group we haven't had any large scale demonsrations here yet compared to other countries.

    I do think people have had enough now and are angry and fed up and the protests might get more traction as a result.

    What do these people hope to achieve? What would they genuinely be protesting about? When we're in the middle of a global pandemic, one for which a vaccine is not widely available, what's the solution other than tying to limit people's movements and contain the spread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭zeebre12


    And SNAs as well.

    I am the SET for 3rd and 4th. Am I back in Monday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭hesaidshesaid


    zeebre12 wrote: »
    I am the SET for 3rd and 4th. Am I back in Monday?

    From DES:

    'all SETs and any other teachers who do not teach mainstream classes should also return from 1st March. This also applies to SNAs. Some SETS and SNAs may also be required to continue to support pupils in senior classes remotely.'

    Seems a pointless increase of numbers in the school if their aim is to decrease mobility. Can't see the point of being in there when we are supporting them all online?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    What do these people hope to achieve? What would they genuinely be protesting about? When we're in the middle of a global pandemic, one for which a vaccine is not widely available, what's the solution other than tying to limit people's movements and contain the spread?

    I suppose it might be a way to vent their anger, frustration and helplessness.

    What would they be protesting about?
    I think it's surprising that there hasn't been more protesting other than the usual crowd. Given that so many people can't make a living and haven't been able to for almost a year I can understand why they would be angry.

    Businesses decimated, people arriving unchallenged from all over the place but we can't go 5km from home, people's mental health really suffering, I can't get a Smear test done by my local gp right now, lots of other routine screenings and care simply not happening.

    Families isolated, children's social and academic development sidelined, no sports, no meeting up, no leisure activities, can't even buy a pair of shoes without jumping through hoops.

    A living with Covid plan it is not, its a continuance of very harsh restrictions and it didn't have to be this way. A lot of people are done with lockdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    zeebre12 wrote: »
    I am the SET for 3rd and 4th. Am I back in Monday?

    So it seems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Midnight Sundance


    Can someone here please advise where to find the best information for me to read or give me advise on what's the best way going forward forward keep myself and family protected.
    Practical advice.
    Do I have to wait 72hours to correct their workbooks? (Being honest I can't see this working in a junior class but if it has been I'm keen to know how)
    How often do we wash the kids hands/sanitise rhem?
    I'm assuming it's when they come in in the morning, after both yards and before they eat?
    What about wiping down the tables? Do you dp that during the day ? Doors/handles etc?
    Windows open fully all day? Partially? Does that make a difference?
    I'm struggling with the clothes- I'll be picking children up straight after school so no opportunity to change clothes before I get them.
    I'm guessing I'll probably be in my coat most of the day for the first while if Windows are to be open. Would it be ok to maybe just leave that in school and change into a different one going home? Do ye change your clothes the minute you get in?
    As regards sick children in your classroom. What are the current guidelines for sending one home? Is it when they have 2 of the covid symptoms? What if they have a cough and parent says it's asthma or something like that.
    If they have snuffly nose but no other symptoms?
    Are schools still doing staggered start and finish times?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭Locotastic


    I'm struggling with the clothes- I'll be picking children up straight after school so no opportunity to change clothes before I get them.
    I'm guessing I'll probably be in my coat most of the day for the first while if Windows are to be open. Would it be ok to maybe just leave that in school and change into a different one going home? Do ye change your clothes the minute you get in?

    If I was working treating covid patients maybe but no I wouldn't be concerned about changing clothes.

    Everyone in my house have been coming in and out for work every day throughout the pandemic and we don't change our clothes straight after work.

    Nobody here has contracted covid, there's very little evidence to suggest that there's a high risk from clothes and it's probably not something to stress too much about.

    It terms of the symptoms I don't believe a stuff or runny nose is covered. If a child only has a runny nose or is sneezing, it is OK to send them to school.

    Symptoms of COVID-19 current advice for children that will warrant testing is:

    - a temperature of 38c or more
    - a new cough
    - loss or changed sense of taste or smell
    - shortness of breath

    Less common symptoms of COVID-19 include:

    - sore throat
    - headaches
    - feeling sick or vomiting

    If a child has any of these less common symptoms they need to be kept at home for at least 48 hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Can someone here please advise where to find the best information for me to read or give me advise on what's the best way going forward forward keep myself and family protected.
    Practical advice.
    Do I have to wait 72hours to correct their workbooks? (Being honest I can't see this working in a junior class but if it has been I'm keen to know how)
    How often do we wash the kids hands/sanitise rhem?
    I'm assuming it's when they come in in the morning, after both yards and before they eat?
    What about wiping down the tables? Do you dp that during the day ? Doors/handles etc?
    Windows open fully all day? Partially? Does that make a difference?
    I'm struggling with the clothes- I'll be picking children up straight after school so no opportunity to change clothes before I get them.
    I'm guessing I'll probably be in my coat most of the day for the first while if Windows are to be open. Would it be ok to maybe just leave that in school and change into a different one going home? Do ye change your clothes the minute you get in?
    As regards sick children in your classroom. What are the current guidelines for sending one home? Is it when they have 2 of the covid symptoms? What if they have a cough and parent says it's asthma or something like that.
    If they have snuffly nose but no other symptoms?
    Are schools still doing staggered start and finish times?

    Continue doing what you were doing before Christmas. Nothing has changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Midnight Sundance


    Continue doing what you were doing before Christmas. Nothing has changed.

    I was on maternity leave before Christmas so I haven't been in the classroom yet with all the new covid rules and restrictions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Midnight Sundance


    Locotastic wrote: »
    If I was working treating covid patients maybe but no I wouldn't be concerned about changing clothes.

    Everyone in my house have been coming in and out for work every day throughout the pandemic and we don't change our clothes straight after work.

    Nobody here has contracted covid, there's very little evidence to suggest that there's a high risk from clothes and it's probably not something to stress too much about.

    It terms of the symptoms I don't believe a stuff or runny nose is covered. If a child only has a runny nose or is sneezing, it is OK to send them to school.

    Symptoms of COVID-19 current advice for children that will warrant testing is:

    - a temperature of 38c or more
    - a new cough
    - loss or changed sense of taste or smell
    - shortness of breath

    Less common symptoms of COVID-19 include:

    - sore throat
    - headaches
    - feeling sick or vomiting

    If a child has any of these less common symptoms they need to be kept at home for at least 48 hours.

    Thank you!! 😊


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