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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #332
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    A combination of less condescension from MM and a lifting of the 5km would go a long, long way to keeping the majority of people on side.

    Less condescension from the entire Government would go a long way to gaining them back a bit of respect.

    Since the start of this pandemic they gave always had this attitude - instead of treating us like adults we`re spoken to like little children - that will be their downfall.


  • #333
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    I think this could be problematic for those of us who enjoy doing things

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1364299353083494405?s=20


  • #334
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,304 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Less condescension from the entire Government would go a long way to gaining them back a bit of respect.

    Since the start of this pandemic they gave always had this attitude - instead of treating us like adults we`re spoken to like little children - that will be their downfall.
    Some people have shown they cant be trusted to behave like an adult so it had to be dumbed down tbf.


  • #335
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    muddypuppy wrote: »
    The difference is that in one place there is a plan, in the other a "we'll see later".
    How is ireland going to reopen the economy earlier than scotland or england?

    Thats the thing. Its not so much a 'plan' as political shenanigans. Behind the UK roadmap lays a while bunch of conditions - which if not met means they're going to be seeing little if any change in their restrictions
    First, that the vaccine deployment programme continues successfully;

    second, that evidence shows vaccines are sufficiently effective in reducing hospitalisations and deaths;

    third, that infection rates do not risk a surge in hospitalisations which would put unsustainable pressure on the NHS;

    and fourth, that our assessment of the risks is not fundamentally changed by new variants of Covid that cause concern.

    Before taking each step we will review the data against these tests and because it takes at least four weeks for the data to reflect the impact of relaxations in restrictions

    and we want to give the country a week’s notice before each change -

    there will be at least five weeks between each step.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-statement-to-the-house-of-commons-on-roadmap-for-easing-lockdown-restrictions-in-england-22-february-2021


  • #336
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Piece on easing of restrictions plans in some EU countries - Ireland would have been a very brief paragraph

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-how-european-nations-are-trying-to-plot-route-out-of-lockdown-12226655?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
    Interesting thing on the German one that I hadn't heard about though:
    "But the European Commission has given Germany - along with Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Hungary and Sweden - 10 days to justify their border closures which justice commissioner Didier Reynders said had "gone too far"."


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  • #337
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Some people have shown they cant be trusted to behave like an adult so it had to be dumbed down tbf.

    Some people - who should be dealt with by way of fines ,but not all of us. Hes just turning more and more of the populace against him.


  • #338
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,304 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Some people - who should be dealt with by way of fines ,but not all of us. Hes just turning more and more of the populace against him.

    Thats fair. We should be much stricter with fines and increase them dramatically for repeat offenders.


  • #339
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,082 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    I'd ignore all of that to be honest. They've not changed it and with the population vaccinated there would be no reason to have said limits

    I hope you're right

    I have a very upset partner already worrying about those type of restrictions being an ongoing thing

    Even with all the population vaccinated I could see the government having measure like those in place


  • #340
    WeeCuppaCha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭WeeCuppaCha


    What, if any, impact will the anti-vaxx contingent have? They are as vocal as they are deluded. And their reach is far. I fear that these University of Facebook doctors will convince some of the more gullible in our population that vaccines are poisonous and could likely in instant death.

    What percentage of vaccinated citizens will achieve herd immunity? Could a low uptake result in prolonged lockdown measures?


  • #341
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    EU flexing its muscles over member border closures.
    Brussels has put six EU member states on notice that their tight Covid border restrictions, including exit and entry bans, should be lifted over fears of a wider breakdown in the bloc’s free movement of people and goods.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/23/eu-tells-six-countries-to-lift-covid-border-restrictions


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  • #342
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Golfman64 wrote: »
    Most other EU countries and the UK are, planning (with dates), or have already reopened foreign travel within a test criteria to certain destinations. Meanwhile we are still pushing ahead with mandatory quarantine and opposition parties calling for the list to be even further extended. It's beggars belief really. we seem intent on destroying our hospitable & welcoming image, our tourism sector, our economy and our vital links as an island to the rest of the world.

    Not so. In the UK the date been given in May is for foreign travel being "possible" ...
    would-be holidaymakers will be given clarity on making plans for the summer by April 12, when a review on how to restart travel safely will be published.

    "The government will determine when international travel should resume, which will be no earlier than 17 May," 

    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-travel/uk-pm-says-foreign-travel-curbs-to-stay-until-at-least-mid-may-idUSKBN2AM22X

    The other thing to remember is that the UK is prioritising first vaccinations only. The majority of people will not have had the second necessary vaccine injection by the time May rolls around. For foreign countries requiring a vaccination certificate - that's not going to be enough.


  • #343
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Faugheen wrote: »
    It takes conversations with normal people to remind you that boards isn’t representative of the population.

    And Beechwoodspark’s family WhatsApp is?!


  • #344
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,210 ✭✭✭prunudo


    April 5th is 6 weeks away, thats a lot more time to go before even construction get going. They way they throw the date around you'd swear its only a week or two away.


  • #345
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,010 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Coybig_ wrote: »
    It's time for businesses to take matters into their own hands and reopen.

    Hopefully we see protests and demonstrations over the coming weeks.

    Its not... fùck them quite frankly.. had enough of the greedy guzzlers...If it happened... the army can act as aid to civil power... if required...

    Already a pub in our area... was raided...and shut... only the alcos and auld lads / wans went... stupid cùnts.. the pub is smack bang in the middle of two garda stations...no food... IDIOTS... gardai coming to and coming from work passing it... both stations gardai responding to calls too were passing it..... i might object to the licence being reknewed... seeing as they objected to the health in the community being enabled and maintsined... fùck em.


  • #346
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,057 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    No real change in retail next month even if they go to Level 4 + or minus

    Essential retail and
    businesses that are
    primarily outdoors
    only. All other retail
    and personal services
    closed.

    So we will need to get to level 3 to have a haircut or non essential retail

    May the very earliest for that no doubt

    Yup, we'll be lucky to get to there by April the way they're going so hairdressers will be lucky to be May. In England of course, you can get a legal haircut in April most likely.

    Yup, says 3-4 week period to assess so on April 5th we'll likely get outdoor sports and outdoor retail and some construction at best even if cases are well under control.


  • #347
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,082 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    prunudo wrote: »
    April 5th is 6 weeks away, thats a lot more time to go before even construction get going. They way they throw the date around you'd swear its only a week or two away.

    Yup only the same amount of time as the October lockdown again with schools open the only change in 14 weeks and 4 days since Christmas Eve


  • #348
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Strumms wrote: »
    Its not... fùck them quite frankly.. had enough of the greedy guzzlers...If it happened... the army can act as aid to civil power... if required...

    Already a pub in our area... was raided...and shut... only the alcos and auld lads / wans went... stupid cùnts.. the pub is smack bang in the middle of two garda stations...no food... IDIOTS... gardai coming to and coming from work passing it... both stations gardai responding to calls too were passing it..... i might object to the licence being reknewed... seeing as they objected to the health in the community being enabled and maintsined... fùck em.

    Are you just back from the pub in question or what


  • #349
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Strumms wrote: »
    Its not... fùck them quite frankly.. had enough of the greedy guzzlers...If it happened... the army can act as aid to civil power... if required...

    Already a pub in our area... was raided...and shut... only the alcos and auld lads / wans went... stupid cùnts.. the pub is smack bang in the middle of two garda stations...no food... IDIOTS... gardai coming to and coming from work passing it... both stations gardai responding to calls too were passing it..... i might object to the licence being reknewed... seeing as they objected to the health in the community being enabled and maintsined... fùck em.

    Not on the same level of stupidly as this

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/hungarian-conservative-mep-apologises-over-brussels-lockdown-orgy-1.4424801


  • #350
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,082 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    titan18 wrote: »
    Yup, we'll be lucky to get to there by April the way they're going so hairdressers will be lucky to be May. In England of course, you can get a legal haircut in April most likely.

    All part of Martin's plan with leaks already

    “So I think we’ll be looking at all that sometime towards the end of the second quarter, if not before it.”

    End of the second quarter is June

    Lucky to see hairdressing in May imo


  • #351
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,057 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    All part of Martin's plan with leaks already

    “So I think we’ll be looking at all that sometime towards the end of the second quarter, if not before it.”

    End of the second quarter is June

    Lucky to see hairdressing in May imo

    Yup, and I already know or hairdressers bringing clients into their own houses for haircuts so they're actually making it riskier for covid spread with those ridiculous decisions.

    Tbh, I'll likely avail of it before long myself.


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  • #352
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Yup only the same amount of time as the October lockdown again with schools open the only change in 14 weeks and 4 days since Christmas Eve

    They will be telling us now that it is good for us and we will be 6 weeks closer to a vaccine.

    It is ten weeks since the enhanced restrictions were announced on 22 December. Many people have followed these - at least January is behind us, Feb by next week. Clocks will go forward in 4 weeks. Brighter evenings and poor George Lee will be all over the place with improved case numbers.


  • #353
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,082 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    They will be telling us now that it is good for us and we will be 6 weeks closer to a vaccine.

    It is ten weeks since the enhanced restrictions were announced on 22 December. Many people have followed these - at least January is behind us, Feb by next week. Clocks will go forward in 4 weeks. Brighter evenings and poor George Lee will be all over the place with improved case numbers.

    Nah George will always find someway for worry and doom and gloom lol


  • #354
    ruth123456
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭ruth123456


    I missed the press conference. Did he say anything about golf?


  • #355
    Bigfatmichael
    Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭Bigfatmichael


    So are women actually cutting their hair these days or just letting it go longer


  • #356
    CoronaBlocker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭CoronaBlocker


    ruth123456 wrote: »
    I missed the press conference. Did he say anything about golf?

    Not about the game here, no - but he did mention that tiger was driving on the sauce again. It was an informal sort of presser, this one.


  • #357
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,862 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Are our young kids, junior, senior infants and first and second class the guinea pigs to see how spreadable the new variants are?


  • #358
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,293 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    ruth123456 wrote: »
    I missed the press conference. Did he say anything about golf?

    He did.

    Something about a good walk ruined and not a snowball's chance in hell before April even if within 5km of home.


  • #359
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,293 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Are our young kids, junior, senior infants and first and second class the guinea pigs to see how spreadable the new variants are?

    No, they're the one's most in need of being in school, as online doesn't suit them. They'll also be more manageable on the mobility front.


  • #360
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,010 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    D.Q wrote: »
    Are you just back from the pub in question or what

    Nahhh, a bit of a rough kip for my own tastes... hopefully though perhaps my future interactions regarding the pub might help see them loose their license, I’m objecting , also I believe the punters were slightly hostile towards attending Gardai all be it just posturing and verbals which won’t play well in court... fuçk em... a nice spar would be good. ;)


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  • #361
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,304 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Strumms wrote: »
    Nahhh, a bit of a rough kip for my own tastes... hopefully though perhaps my future interactions regarding the pub might help see them loose their license, I’m objecting , also I believe the punters were slightly hostile towards attending Gardai all be it just posturing and verbals which won’t play well in court... fuçk em... a nice spar would be good. ;)

    A boarded up building would be better than those kips.


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