Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

23-02-2021 04:17PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If the pandemic is a serious enough event to instate laws that restrict citizens to within a 5km of their homes—and even then under only very specific conditions—and shutter small businesses, schools and halt major areas of construction, then it is certainly serious enough to bring fearmongering propagandists to account during the analysis phase to come.

Your not called Joe McCarthy by any chance?

Crybabygeeks · 23-02-2021 04:17PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I honestly think this period will be studied a lot over coming years as another mass hysteria/moral panic. Yes, covid is a real thing but the reaction has been completely over the top, and honestly the way people have been brainwashed to think covid is lurking just waiting to infect those who don't follow THE RULES is like the satanic panic or something.

I saw a post recently where the poster suggested that the 'anti-lockdowners' of today will be looked upon favourably like the 'anti-iraqers' in Tony Blairs UK. No-one knows of course how all this pan out but if I was to bet, I'd agree with this. We've been led down a path which started out on a best intentions basis but has since suffered from terrible leadership and really really poor decision making.

gw80 · 23-02-2021 04:17PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Checkpoints move location as well

There's a permanent checkpoint on the west side of Cork City on the N22

There was a mobile checkpoint near Ringaskiddy today I was stopped at if the lashing wind and rain

Guards soaked in fariness to them

Essential worker then allowed to move on

But if it's so important that people cannot go outside 5km unless essential then shouldn't they set up more permanent structures maybe, it just seems half arsed, people have lost there jobs,businesses and livelihood over this virus, but the gaurds can just look out the window and say "na too wet out,we'll stop covid tomorrow "
It's either important or it's not.

23-02-2021 04:18PM

Boggles wrote: »

Would you extend the purge to individuals?

Would this new Media Police have the ability to prosecute self published fear mongering and misinformation?

Boards would be dead

Lundstram · 23-02-2021 04:22PM

DellyBelly wrote: »

Apologies if Idon't want to get a fine or a criminal record...I want to do the right thing...

A criminal record for going to the beach?

Jesus fcuking Christ. :rolleyes:

Boggles · 23-02-2021 04:23PM

Crybabygeeks wrote: »

I saw a post recently where the poster suggested that the 'anti-lockdowners' of today will be looked upon favourably like the 'anti-iraqers' in Tony Blairs UK. No-one knows of course how all this pan out but if I was to bet, I'd agree with this. We've been led down a path which started out on a best intentions basis but has since suffered from terrible leadership and really really poor decision making.

George says no.

https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1352285836444921857

23-02-2021 04:25PM

gw80 wrote: »

But if it's so important that people cannot go outside 5km unless essential then shouldn't they set up more permanent structures maybe, it just seems half arsed, people have lost there jobs,businesses and livelihood over this virus, but the gaurds can just look out the window and say "na too wet out,we'll stop covid tomorrow "
It's either important or it's not.

Those seeking to bypass restrictions are far less likely to venture out in the pouring rain I'd imagine. Policing is a risk based activity, and resources are prioritised accordingly.

What I cant understand though is I have yet go though a checkpoint, since March, with multiple trips per week of ca.20km each way on National and Regional routes, and intercountry travel every 2 weeks or so, on Motorway, National an regional roads. Am I just lucky?

paw patrol · 23-02-2021 04:28PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I thought I didn't need to post this again, but heyho

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/guidance/outbreakmanagementguidance/PCR%20weak%20results%20guidance.pdf

none of that contradicts what I said.

please also note - your own document

When it is not necessary or practical to implement the process outlined here one should proceed on the basis that a positive test is evidence that a person is infectious

I know from experience of over 20 people I know who tested positive over Christmas . none of this document was actioned so far in what we saw.

Nearly all these positive results - accurate or not are then broadcast as new cases - this drives policy.
This drove post Christmas lockdown. That's the thing i don't approve of. That's my only point - the inaccuracy that drives policy.

That doc is great , plans are great, actually following them....well that's even better.

As i said in my post , I wrote about PCR tests being sh1te in Sept , your doc was updated in Dec. Months later.

paw patrol · 23-02-2021 04:29PM

DellyBelly wrote: »

Apologies if Idon't want to get a fine or a criminal record...I want to do the right thing...

you get fined. not a criminal record.

timmyntc · 23-02-2021 04:31PM

paw patrol wrote: »

you get fined. not a criminal record.

You more than likely will just get turned around at the checkpoint, unless you are being a d*ck

dalyboy · 23-02-2021 04:33PM

timmyntc wrote: »

You more than likely will just get turned around at the checkpoint, unless you are being a d*ck

Or just apply one of the many useful “allowed” 5km exemption excuses. Sorted.

23-02-2021 04:37PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Your not called Joe McCarthy by any chance?

Locking people up for going more than 5km from their home = good.

Bringing to account professionals who have admittedly attempted to increase anxiety and insecurity in a population already stressed from a year of heavy restriction, and further been permitted to propagate their stoking of anxiety and insecurity by state-funded media = bad.

Gotcha.

I guess we just disagree.

gw80 · 23-02-2021 04:38PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Those seeking to bypass restrictions are far less likely to venture out in the pouring rain I'd imagine. Policing is a risk based activity, and resources are prioritised accordingly.

What I cant understand though is I have yet go though a checkpoint, since March, with multiple trips per week of ca.20km each way on National and Regional routes, and intercountry travel every 2 weeks or so, on Motorway, National an regional roads. Am I just lucky?

Are you suggesting I am not being truthful?

23-02-2021 04:38PM

paw patrol wrote: »

none of that contradicts what I said.

please also note - your own document

I know from experience of over 20 people I know who tested positive over Christmas . none of this document was actioned so far in what we saw.

Nearly all these positive results - accurate or not are then broadcast as new cases - this drives policy.
This drove post Christmas lockdown. That's the thing i don't approve of. That's my only point - the inaccuracy that drives policy.

That doc is great , plans are great, actually following them....well that's even better.

As i said in my post , I wrote about PCR tests being sh1te in Sept , your doc was updated in Dec. Months later.

You know the Cycles for each of these? Yeah right.

Its clear guidance. The labs know what they are doing. AND in January only symptomatic people were being tested and we were getting thousands per day. Last summer we were testing thousands everyday and getting very low positives.

facehugger99 · 23-02-2021 04:39PM

Lundstram wrote: »

A criminal record for going to the beach?

Jesus fcuking Christ. :rolleyes:

Murder is a serious crime - going that extra couple of km's from your house can kill multiple grannies.

23-02-2021 04:40PM

gw80 wrote: »

Are you suggesting I am not being truthful?

No.

facehugger99 · 23-02-2021 04:41PM

timmyntc wrote: »

You more than likely will just get turned around at the checkpoint, unless you are being a d*ck

You'd want to be a right clown to get turned around at a checkpoint - you can make up practically any old ****e and the Guard will wave you through.

Hellrazer · 23-02-2021 04:42PM

Its funny - the other thread "How would you rate the government" is showing that 82% of people think they are useless and 18% think theyre doing an ok job.

Ive just emailed a screenshot of the poll to every TD on my Excel list - they usually take heed of polls.

Probably the only thing they will listen to.

Got a couple of Pms looking for the list so Ive attached it here.

23-02-2021 04:42PM

gw80 wrote: »

Are you suggesting I am not being truthful?

Yes. But wiggle room was left for denial, as per usual.

23-02-2021 04:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes. But wiggle room was left for denial, as per usual.

Really odd bunch

JRant · 23-02-2021 04:48PM

The litmus test for the announcement today will be if it includes a no restrictions option as a final stage. The dates and metrics just won't be given so there's very little point in discussing these again. However, if there is no stage where restrictions are completely lifted then we are in for restrictions well into 2022

timmyntc · 23-02-2021 04:53PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

Its funny - the other thread "How would you rate the government" is showing that 82% of people think they are useless and 18% think theyre doing an ok job.

Ive just emailed a screenshot of the poll to every TD on my Excel list - they usually take heed of polls.

Probably the only thing they will listen to.

From the Boards institute of statistical atari jaguar

themacattack. · 23-02-2021 04:55PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

You'd want to be a right clown to get turned around at a checkpoint - you can make up practically any old ****e and the Guard will wave you through.

iv gone through a heap of checkpoints and once you are polite and have some sort of an explanation they will be waving you on before you even finish your sentence.....im sure the guards are representive of the population and theres alot would prefer to be doing more useful and productive duties but everyone answers to someone so the checkpoints have to be set up to be seen to be enforcing the crackpot 5k rule

Hellrazer · 23-02-2021 04:58PM

timmyntc wrote: »

From the Boards institute of statistical atari jaguar

Its a better barometer than some of the rubbish journalism thats currently out there!!!

hamburgham · 23-02-2021 05:02PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

Its funny - the other thread "How would you rate the government" is showing that 82% of people think they are useless and 18% think theyre doing an ok job.

Ive just emailed a screenshot of the poll to every TD on my Excel list - they usually take heed of polls.

Probably the only thing they will listen to.

Got a couple of Pms looking for the list so Ive attached it here.

Thanks, saved me going looking for it.

whippet · 23-02-2021 05:04PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

Its a better barometer than some of the rubbish journalism thats currently out there!!!

You have that right ... the amount of ‘journalists’ cropping up at the moment is painful ... many who are exclusive to social media rolling out utter populist nonsense

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 23-02-2021 05:04PM

When is this "plan" being announced?

JRant · 23-02-2021 05:07PM

MattS1 wrote: »

When is this "plan" being announced?

It's already been widely announced.
Step 1: Underpants
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Profit

JDxtra · 23-02-2021 05:07PM

MattS1 wrote: »

When is this "plan" being announced?

After 6pm is my understanding.

timmyntc · 23-02-2021 05:09PM

MattS1 wrote: »

When is this "plan" being announced?

Michael Martin will be detailing the "leaving lockdown" plan, in an exclusive interview with Nuts magazine this evening.

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