Gyms to Reopen 2021???

senordingdong · 19-02-2021 10:29AM

OmegaGene wrote: »

what new misery did i miss
pissing down here so my morning 15km hike is out the window :mad:

Amenities more essential than gyms are staying shut until May. Presumably, pushing us back much further.

DylanJM · 19-02-2021 10:36AM

This government is a fúcking disaster. Imagine announcing something as big as 9 more weeks of lockdown in an exclusive interview to the Mirror of all rags at 10PM on a Thursday night.

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Why the fúck are they smiling?

timmyntc · 19-02-2021 10:42AM

DylanJM wrote: »

This government is a fúcking disaster. Imagine announcing something as big as 9 more weeks of lockdown in an exclusive interview to the Mirror of all rags at 10PM on a Thursday night.

Why the fúck are they smiling?

Because it doesn't affect them

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 19-02-2021 10:44AM

Lockdowns forever until the people say enough is enough. It's past that time.

senordingdong · 19-02-2021 10:57AM

OmegaGene wrote: »

ah so just what they said yesterday really then[/B]

Didn't realise it was announced last night, only catching it this morning.

is_that_so · 19-02-2021 10:58AM

senordingdong wrote: »

Didn't realise it was announced last night, only catching it this morning.

Well, "announced" in a Daily Mirror interview!

gypsy79 · 19-02-2021 11:00AM

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 wrote: »

Lockdowns forever until the people say enough is enough. It's past that time.

But the polls they quote all say that 70% + of people are in favour of lockdowns

More QALY, and QALY lost will continue to rise have been lost due to lockdown than has been saved by lockdowns

19-02-2021 11:15AM

senordingdong wrote: »

Amenities more essential than gyms are staying shut until May. Presumably, pushing us back much further.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/covid-19-ireland-live-taoiseach-23527462

"Michael Martin would not be drawn on when personal services such as hairdressers would reopen but indicated that the industry could possibly be closed for an extended period after April.

He said: “We’ve got to take it in phases, we can not project the full year out, it would be dishonest to try and do that with Covid-19.

“That said, we understand where personal services come in as a sector and that’s something we’d like to be looking at some stage but we do want to get vaccinations done.

“So I think we’ll be looking at all that sometime towards the end of the second quarter, if not before it.”

When put to him that it would be the end of June, he added: “No, I’m not going to put that date. Ronan Glynn (Deputy Chief Medical Officer) and ourselves discussed beyond April you can’t really predict.”

Are hairdressers more essential than gyms? Or should we look at it from a risk perspective? Can you go into a gym without registering a close contact? Can you do that in a hairdresser?

19-02-2021 11:38AM

DylanJM wrote: »

This government is a fúcking disaster. Imagine announcing something as big as 9 more weeks of lockdown in an exclusive interview to the Mirror of all rags at 10PM on a Thursday night.

Why the fúck are they smiling?

Meh. Makes no difference to me when, how or who they announce it to. I don't even care that they're not looking miserable. It is what it is.

My only regret is not upping my family and taking off to NZ a year ago. Knowing my family over there have been living a normal life for all this time is depressing.

nullzero · 19-02-2021 11:42AM

The annoying thing is that take away pints will probably be allowed before Gyms.

19-02-2021 11:55AM

nullzero wrote: »

The annoying thing is that take away pints will probably be allowed before Gyms.

They are allowed now under current legislation but it's discouraged.....

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/forget-about-takeaway-pints-taoiseach-warns-publicans-1.4451757

I noticed 3 pubs in urban Cork last weekend who were open (not quite the city)

One of them has on their facebook "Open for takeaway tea, coffees, liqueur coffees, selected draughts and hot ports/whiskey"
https://www.facebook.com/PierHeadInn

A post from Jan 15 "We are open for Winter warmers takeaway. Tea, coffee (Americano, Cappuccino etc), Hot Choclate, Liqueur coffee (Baileys, Amaretto, Rum, Whiskey or Brandy), Baileys Hot Chocolate, Hot Whiskey or Hot Port. Other options also available, just ask."

gypsy79 · 19-02-2021 11:57AM

I know of a good few places in Dublin doing them

19-02-2021 12:01PM

Yes, no doubt it's countrywide.
Not much of an issue now as folk aren't congregating outside as the weather is less than good.
Hopefully when the weather improves the cases will be so low that it's fine (ish) to gather outside.
Won't be doing it myself though, not my thing.

vafankillar · 19-02-2021 02:36PM

gypsy79 wrote: »

I know of a good few places in Dublin doing them

any places in dublin city? I can't find anywhere :pac:

The White Wolf · 19-02-2021 03:20PM

Anyone any tips on where I could get a reasonably inexpensive folding treadmill? Not the best for running outdoors and doesn't look like I'll be back in a gym before April.

DylanJM · 20-02-2021 11:35AM

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/no-meeting-in-groups-outdoors-or-travel-further-than-5km-until-may-under-new-plan-40111982.html

Key part for me:

Ministers said the Government will consider easing the 5km travel ban and people may also be permitted to meet outdoors in bigger groups if the virus is under control in May.

Meanwhile Denmark and Sweden both plan to have the adult population vaccinated by end of June.

20-02-2021 12:28PM

DylanJM wrote: »

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Meanwhile Denmark and Sweden both plan to have the adult population vaccinated by end of June.

1m doses a month supply from April should ensure we get the bulk of the adult population done by the end of September.......... the government reckon supply is our constraint, not administration.

DylanJM · 22-02-2021 05:02PM

England looking to reopen gyms on 12th April.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 22-02-2021 05:15PM

Augeo wrote: »

1m doses a month supply from April should ensure we get the bulk of the adult population done by the end of September.......... the government reckon supply is our constraint, not administration.

Don't forget there's a 3 month wait in between first and second dose of some vaccines.

gypsy79 · 22-02-2021 05:35PM

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 wrote: »

Don't forget there's a 3 month wait in between first and second dose of some vaccines.

3 week wait and studies show that immunity is at 75-80% after one dose

22-02-2021 05:53PM

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 wrote: »

Don't forget there's a 3 month wait in between first and second dose of some vaccines.

April, May, June, July, August & September........ 1m/month is 6m doses administered.

5m people, about 3.5 million are adults

what I said "1m doses a month supply from April should ensure we get the bulk of the adult population done by the end of September.......... the government reckon supply is our constraint, not administration."

3 month wait is only for the AZ vaccine iirc.

Patsy167 · 22-02-2021 06:28PM

I reckon the gyms will be open a lot sooner than is being predicted here.

Micheal Martin mentioned that peoples behavior changed noticeably when the date of restrictions being lifted was flagged well in advance last time so this time I think the messaging is being overly conservative to dampen expectations. I expect things will be back to normal a lot sooner than people expect with the vaccine

nullzero · 22-02-2021 06:41PM

Patsy167 wrote: »

I reckon the gyms will be open a lot sooner than is being predicted here.

Micheal Martin mentioned that peoples behavior changed noticeably when the date of restrictions being lifted was flagged well in advance last time so this time I think the messaging is being overly conservative to dampen expectations. I expect things will be back to normal a lot sooner than people expect with the vaccine

I'd love for that to be true, but we're seeing experts warning about school reopenings today and with NPHET in control of all things lockdown related I'd be surprised if the schools reopening weren't pushed back which leaves exiting level 5 further back again.
Gyms are well behind that curve unfortunately.

22-02-2021 08:11PM

Patsy167 wrote: »

I reckon the gyms will be open a lot sooner than is being predicted here.

Micheal Martin mentioned that peoples behavior changed noticeably when the date of restrictions being lifted was flagged well in advance last time so this time I think the messaging is being overly conservative to dampen expectations. I expect things will be back to normal a lot sooner than people expect with the vaccine

I'm sticking to my April guesstimate.

JTMan · 22-02-2021 08:13PM

I suspect that level 3 will be in place on 1 May with non-essential retail and gyms reopening on that date.

Once schools and construction are open after Easter, the pressure will be on the government to lighten restrictions further.

People are really really fed up with the restrictions now. The government are going to have to give a date for level 3 sooner rather than later to give people something to look forward too.

Alf Veedersane · 22-02-2021 09:12PM

JTMan wrote: »

People are really really fed up with the restrictions now. The government are going to have to give a date for level 3 sooner rather than later to give people something to look forward too.

It shouldn't be based on a date. A date is meaningless. They did that before Christmas and started at a much higher starting point than they should have.

But if it was based on some objective numbers, it might actually convince people to sit tight until the time.

Alf Veedersane · 22-02-2021 09:31PM

OmegaGene wrote: »

According to RTÉ the outline for living with covid is unlikely to contain any set dates for opening but will be a rough plan of where we are going ie a revised level 5 4 3 2 and 1

On the 6th of March, we'll be in some hodgepodge of levels in this new plan.

iguana · 23-02-2021 01:17PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

It shouldn't be based on a date. A date is meaningless. They did that before Christmas and started at a much higher starting point than they should have.

But if it was based on some objective numbers, it might actually convince people to sit tight until the time.

That's the thing isn't it. They pick dates based on modelling but the modelling can only account for a predicted set of variables. People's actual actions can utterly change those variables and mean the modelling becomes inaccurate. If we were told, when the 14 day incidence rate is below X cases a day and hospital/ICU cases are below Y/Z, we can go to Level 3. People would understand that and take action to minimise the spread. It passes a larger degree of the responsibility back to us and removes a lot of the continued uncertainty.

Alf Veedersane · 23-02-2021 01:52PM

iguana wrote: »

That's the thing isn't it. They pick dates based on modelling but the modelling can only account for a predicted set of variables. People's actual actions can utterly change those variables and mean the modelling becomes inaccurate. If we were told, when the 14 day incidence rate is below X cases a day and hospital/ICU cases are below Y/Z, we can go to Level 3. People would understand that and take action to minimise the spread. It passes a larger degree of the responsibility back to us and removes a lot of the continued uncertainty.

You would hope it would have that effect. People are more likely to buy in if they feel that compliance with the guidance is rewarded.

But the government needs to up its game as well. Quarantine only mandatory if you're coming from South Africa or Brazil is beyond stupid.

gypsy79 · 23-02-2021 01:56PM

iguana wrote: »

That's the thing isn't it. They pick dates based on modelling but the modelling can only account for a predicted set of variables. People's actual actions can utterly change those variables and mean the modelling becomes inaccurate. If we were told, when the 14 day incidence rate is below X cases a day and hospital/ICU cases are below Y/Z, we can go to Level 3. People would understand that and take action to minimise the spread. It passes a larger degree of the responsibility back to us and removes a lot of the continued uncertainty.

But that would mean that Leo ant get himself in the media by his shooting from the hip

How have FG allowed that clown stay as party leader given his unprofessional way of acting!

Gyms to Reopen 2021???

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