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Gyms to Reopen 2021???

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  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know it's not happening. I'm just venting.

    If ****e merchants can function in a 'controlled' environment than a gym surely could too.

    There's 50 unmasked people indoors in most gyms for an hour......... folk are in a takeaway for minutes, masked and there should be only a handful of other people in there, also masked.

    There's literally no comparison.

    Venting is grand but you aren't talking sense really.
    ..................
    No right minded person could defend the governments decision to label gyms as unessential while agreeing that off licenses and take aways are essential.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,753 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Augeo wrote: »
    There's 50 unmasked people indoors in most gyms for an hour......... folk are in a takeaway for minutes, masked and there should be only a handful of other people in there, also masked.

    There's literally no comparison.

    Venting is grand but you aren't talking sense really.

    Absolute shìte talk right here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    The reason gyms should be open is not because they're essential but because young people that go to gyms aren't in danger. Let them open. If someone feels they pose a danger to someone in their family then let the family decide what the best course of action is and what sort of protective measures should be adhered to(wearing mask, going at a quiet time, leaving if it becomes too crowded)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 989 ✭✭✭Dick Turnip


    The reason gyms should be open is not because they're essential but because young people that go to gyms aren't in danger. Let them open. If someone feels they pose a danger to someone in their family then let the family decide what the best course of action is and what sort of protective measures should be adhered to(wearing mask, going at a quiet time, leaving if it becomes too crowded)

    Come off it, we're a year into it now and you're reasoning is - if someone feels they pose a danger, let them stay at home. Using that logic you could say that about literally any restriction so.

    I want my gym open as my routine has gone to shyte since December but I can understand why they're not open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    OmegaGene wrote: »
    The people that run the country only want us to go out for an essential journey or exercise outside, having Johnny and his mates heading off to the gym isn’t going to help reduce community transmission
    It’s isn’t only young people that use the gym either

    Well it should be in the middle of a pandemic. It's up to people to help themselves. If their risk aversion is so high then avoid public spaces altogether. It's what they should be doing anyway. The restrictions are for them after all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Come off it, we're a year into it now and you're reasoning is - if someone feels they pose a danger, let them stay at home. Using that logic you could say that about literally any restriction so.

    I want my gym open as my routine has gone to shyte since December but I can understand why they're not open.

    Yeh I pretty much would say that same logic applies to every restriction. Not getting into the ins and out of Covid here, but yeah, it's pretty much what 'Living with Covid' was meant to be, before the vaccines saved our arses.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Absolute shìte talk right here.

    Please do highlight where it's incorrect :)


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The reason gyms should be open is not because they're essential but because young people that go to gyms aren't in danger. Let them open. If someone feels they pose a danger to someone in their family then let the family decide what the best course of action is and what sort of protective measures should be adhered to(wearing mask, going at a quiet time, leaving if it becomes too crowded)

    Unfortunately lots of folk in society are as thick as sh1t so the state needs to step in and provide guidance and legislation in unprecedented times.

    Do you really think every family has the knowledge to decide the best course of action in potentially life endangering times?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    Just wondering but if the gyms are allowed open does that not suggest then other sport and activities should be treated the same? I wonder the reason they would want to suspend gyms longer as you may get all sorts of similar activity organisers saying hey were a physical activity too needed for well being and mental health we need to open also...swimming pools , gold clubs....rugby clubs...... tennis clubs. Maybe it would be a cascade of more requests from similar interested parties


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ................... needed for well being and mental health we need to open also...swimming pools , gold clubs....rugby clubs...... tennis clubs. Maybe it would be a cascade of more requests from similar interested parties

    On a case by case basis golf would be the first to open.
    Once we get down to under 200 cases a day I reckon gyms might open, it'll be April though I expect at the earliest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Augeo wrote: »

    Venting is grand but you aren't talking sense really.
    He says, senselessly.

    Who says 50? And who says they're unmasked?
    It can be done in a controlled manner, making everybody book a slot, wear a mask and limit capacity.
    If one is safe in a takeaway because they're wearing a mask, or on a bus, then they're just as safe in a gym wearing a mask.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He says, senselessly.

    Who says 50? And who says they're unmasked?
    It can be done in a controlled manner, making everybody book a slot, wear a mask and limit capacity.
    If one is safe in a takeaway because they're wearing a mask, or on a bus, then they're just as safe in a gym wearing a mask.

    Where is the non sense in what I said?


    Everything you mention was in place previously except the mask.
    Surely you realise the risk in a takeaway for a few minutes is less than if you were there for an hour? Seems as you are so sensible I presume you do :D
    Although you came out with this scutter "No right minded person could defend the governments decision to label gyms as unessential while agreeing that off licenses and take aways are essential" !!

    Gyms were limited to 50 people and slots had to be booked in most of them.
    You are proposing what was done already except now proposing masks are compulsory in gyms. Profound stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Augeo wrote: »
    Where is the non sense in what I said?


    Everything you mention was in place previously except the mask.
    Surely you realise the risk in a takeaway for a few minutes is less than if you were there for an hour? Seems as you are so sensible I presume you do :D
    Although you came out with this scutter "No right minded person could defend the governments decision to label gyms as unessential while agreeing that off licenses and take aways are essential" !!

    Gyms were limited to 50 people and slots had to be booked in most of them.
    You are proposing what was done already except now proposing masks are compulsory in gyms. Profound stuff.

    Your nonsense is suggesting that some non essential services can remain open under restrictions, and others can't.
    Alternatively, you're agreeing with the governments assessment that gyms are unessential, but off licenses and curry shops are essential.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,163 ✭✭✭rpurfield


    My 12 year old was in the height of it last night when he heard the GAA won't be back until April and assumes his rugby will be the same. It's affecting his mood that he can't get out to play games or train with his mates so where do we draw the line? I would say the return of team sports would be good for his mental health. Once one sport or sector opens everyone else would have their hand out looking to be included.

    It's ****e and I miss the gym myself but deeming it essential because it suits you isn't looking at the big picture. Another thing to note on it is yes its generally younfer poeple in the gym, but don't these new variants of Covid affect younger people more? Bottom line is the Government are still spooked over Christmas and will be slow to open up no matter how much we all give out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    rpurfield wrote: »
    It's ****e and I miss the gym myself but deeming it essential because it suits you isn't looking at the big picture.
    We don't have to look at a bigger picture. It's demonstrable in a much small picture.
    There are plenty of valid reasons to keep the gyms shut, and so they have been labelled as unessential.
    But since essential and unessential are the only two labels in town, everything that remains open is therefore essential.
    Gyms are unessential but off licenses are essential.
    Government are still spooked over Christmas and will be slow to open up no matter how much we all give out.
    There's the bigger picture to examine. The whole country has to endure a longer, harsher lockdown so that piss heads could have their jollies over Xmas.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Your nonsense is suggesting that some non essential services can remain open under restrictions, and others can't.
    Alternatively, you're agreeing with the governments assessment that gyms are unessential, but off licenses and curry shops are essential.

    lol

    It's widely accepted that food is essential so takeaways are open.
    Personally off licenses aren't IMO essential but I don't think having no alcohol for sale is a great idea either. Again, a few people in an off license, masked for the duration of a few minutes is minimal risk.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    .............


    There's a bigger picture to examine. The whole country has to endure a longer, harsher lockdown so that piss heads could have their jollies over Xmas.

    That's a great point.
    But we can't go back in time and keep restaurants closed for December and stop all travel into the country...... we have to deal with things as they are.
    Lockdown has seen cases drop, hospital numbers are dropping and all going well they will continue to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,163 ✭✭✭rpurfield


    We don't have to look at a bigger picture. It's demonstrable in a much small picture.
    There are plenty of valid reasons to keep the gyms shut, and so they have been labelled as unessential.
    But since essential and unessential are the only two labels in town, everything that remains open is therefore essential.
    Gyms are unessential but off licenses are essential.


    There's the bigger picture to examine. The whole country has to endure a longer, harsher lockdown so that piss heads could have their jollies over Xmas.

    The bigger picture is the new variant is more contagious and the Government are spooked by Christmas. If you are insisting on equating 50 people in a building for 40 minutes to an hour with someone nipping into a chipper or off licence I'm at a loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,753 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Augeo wrote: »
    Please do highlight where it's incorrect :)

    50 people in a gym. Are you for real? The gyms were one of the few things run correctly when things were open. Hour slots, max 15 people in a HUGE gym, sanitizer and wipes provided.

    You're only talking shìt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,763 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    50 people in a gym. Are you for real? The gyms were one of the few things run correctly when things were open. Hour slots, max 15 people in a HUGE gym, sanitizer and wipes provided.

    You're only talking shìt.

    If you're saying gyms had a max of 15 people in a huge space then you're not one to be telling others they're talking shíte.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If you're saying gyms had a max of 15 people in a huge space then you're not one to be telling others they're talking shíte.

    100%.. I went to the 5.30am Flyefit monday to Friday for weeks, there was about 20 tops but it was 100% as safe as houses.

    One day I missed a workout so I went that evening having booked a spot.
    I couldn't believe how many bodies were milling round. I actually said it to some lad, we both agreed, this is going to finfish the gyms now and it seems it did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,068 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    rusty cole wrote: »
    100%.. I went to the 5.30am Flyefit monday to Friday for weeks, there was about 20 tops but it was 100% as safe as houses.

    One day I missed a workout so I went that evening having booked a spot.
    I couldn't believe how many bodies were milling round. I actually said it to some lad, we both agreed, this is going to finfish the gyms now and it seems it did.

    Whtever about how many were in your gym, while i think they started off with a 15 person restriction, in November and December it was 50 person restriction - and my gym regularly had that 50, even at 7am.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    The Gyms actually might be a lot less busier anyway, I would reckon a lot of people have invested in weights and other equipment at home or turned a spare room or shed into a little home gym if they had a bit of space so there might be a certain percentage that just might not be back to the gym in the near future at all possibly, so they may not be as packed as we might think as was pre covid times/ I made a spare box room into a little get fit area and 2 of my friends have done similar with a shed and a spare room also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Augeo wrote: »
    lol

    It's widely accepted that food is essential so takeaways are open.
    Personally off licenses aren't IMO essential but I don't think having no alcohol for sale is a great idea either. Again, a few people in an off license, masked for the duration of a few minutes is minimal risk.

    Ofcourse food is essential, fast food isn't.

    If we can determine that something is minimal risk because of factors such as time, and number of people present, then the same can be applied to the gym.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,068 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    The Gyms actually might be a lot less busier anyway, I would reckon a lot of people have invested in weights and other equipment at home or turned a spare room or shed into a little home gym if they had a bit of space so there might be a certain percentage that just might not be back to the gym in the near future at all possibly, so they may not be as packed as we might think as was pre covid times/ I made a spare box room into a little get fit area and 2 of my friends have done similar with a shed and a spare room also.

    I spend a load on adjustable dumbbells. but I can't wait to get back to the gym.

    Don't have the space, or the money, to kit out a olympic bench, bar, plates, squat rack etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,763 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Ofcourse food is essential, fast food isn't.

    If we can determine that something is minimal risk because of factors such as time, and number of people present, then the same can be applied to the gym.

    10 minute slots with 5 people max


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    50 people in a gym. Are you for real? The gyms were one of the few things run correctly when things were open. Hour slots, max 15 people in a HUGE gym, sanitizer and wipes provided.

    You're only talking shìt.

    yawn, huge gyms were allowed 50 people.
    I'm very much for real.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/1b697-covid-19-your-questions-answered/#gymsexercise-groups
    "Groups exercising outdoors should be limited to 15 people, including training sessions. There should be no mixing between groups"

    That's where you got 15 from ;)

    You, are the one talking sh1t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,753 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Augeo wrote: »
    yawn, huge gyms were allowed 50 people.
    I'm very much for real.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/1b697-covid-19-your-questions-answered/#gymsexercise-groups
    "Groups exercising outdoors should be limited to 15 people, including training sessions. There should be no mixing between groups"

    That's where you got 15 from ;)

    You, are the one talking sh1t.

    Well I can tell you there wasn't 50 people in my gym. It was run exceptionally well.

    Probably some Dublin gym again ruining it for the people that can actually behave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭sugarman20


    Anyone else turning into a fat mess?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,068 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Well I can tell you there wasn't 50 people in my gym. It was run exceptionally well.

    Probably some Dublin gym again ruining it for the people that can actually behave.

    The hell you talking about?

    Other gyms following guidelines and allowing 50 in were not behaving and ruining it for others? Sure.


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