Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IX Read OP For Mod Warnings

ypres5 · 22-02-2021 12:23AM

gmisk wrote: »

Your kind of also overlooking a big point....it hasn't been approved by the EMA...
If Ireland went off buying a vaccine on the side and it did turn out to not be safe or to be ineffective can you imagine the reaction in Ireland?!

hungary have started using it surely if it's good enough for them it's good enough for us?

hynesie08 · 22-02-2021 12:25AM

Multipass wrote: »

As long as they ditch the 5km ****e, they can open synchronised swimming for all I care. But Leo is on record saying that golf is a priority. Why?

Outside, socially distanced, no physical contact, slots had to be reserved with a cap on numbers, it's the perfect first sport to lift restrictions on.

22-02-2021 12:27AM

ypres5 wrote: »

hungary have started using it surely if it's good enough for them it's good enough for us?

Yes they have vaccinated fewer of their population than we have ours

Idbatterim · 22-02-2021 12:30AM

showpony1 wrote: »

679 cases in Ireland, and one death.
what am i supposed to think about that? pretend i care about that one death?
outrageous millions living this life cause of these numbers, hopefully there is a huge backlash soon.

A consultant af the start of the pandemic on boards, reckoned the public would accept like fifty deaths or thereabouts a day, as the cost for living a normal life. He was wrong, we have zero deaths or this **** show.

gmisk · 22-02-2021 12:31AM

ypres5 wrote: »

hungary have started using it surely if it's good enough for them it's good enough for us?

How predictable....we are not Hungary....they have approved it for "emergency use".

The bigger picture is, Orban will take any chance he gets to be seen to go against the EU...it plays extremely well to his voters.
An absolute tonne of stories back that up.

From a very quick Google
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/05/george-soros-orban-turns-to-familiar-scapegoat-as-hungary-rows-with-eu

https://www.dw.com/en/hungary-viktor-orban-rule-of-law-eu-budget/a-55581020

https://www.politico.eu/article/what-should-the-eu-do-about-hungary-coronavirus-viktor-orban/

There are an absolute tonne more.

What other countries in the EU have approved sputnik?
I can give you the answer...none.

RGS · 22-02-2021 12:35AM

Multipass wrote: »

As long as they ditch the 5km ****e, they can open synchronised swimming for all I care. But Leo is on record saying that golf is a priority. Why?

I agree the 5km needs to go otherwise the opening of any outdoor sports is just window dressing.

I cant talk for Leo but I presume because tennis and golf are played on currently closed facilities that's the reason Leo put some emphasis on it.

Mike Murdock · 22-02-2021 12:37AM

showpony1 wrote: »

679 cases in Ireland, and one death.
what am i supposed to think about that? pretend i care about that one death?
outrageous millions living this life cause of these numbers, hopefully there is a huge backlash soon.

Keep on dreaming, pal.

Lundstram · 22-02-2021 12:38AM

https://twitter.com/onthewaycafeIRL/status/1363454230997180417

But it's all going to be ok because a few posters on here said they were just "temporarily unemployed".

ypres5 · 22-02-2021 12:39AM

gmisk wrote: »

How predictable....we are not Hungary....they have approved it for "emergency use".

The bigger picture is, Orban will take any chance he gets to be seen to go against the EU...it plays extremely well to his voters.
An absolute tonne of stories back that up.

From a very quick Google
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/05/george-soros-orban-turns-to-familiar-scapegoat-as-hungary-rows-with-eu

https://www.dw.com/en/hungary-viktor-orban-rule-of-law-eu-budget/a-55581020

https://www.politico.eu/article/what-should-the-eu-do-about-hungary-coronavirus-viktor-orban/

There are an absolute tonne more.

What other countries in the EU have approved sputnik?
I can give you the answer...none.

was the attitude at the start really necessary? im just thinking from the position that we put all our eggs in the EU basket and that bit us on the arse. if we can go through our own approval process for Sputnik and if we can get a supply what'll be wrong with that? i know it isn't going to happen as the ship has sailed supply wise but i think it's a shame it wasn't considered

silverharp · 22-02-2021 12:40AM

gmisk wrote: »

How predictable....we are not Hungary....they have approved it for "emergency use".

The bigger picture is, Orban will take any chance he gets to be seen to go against the EU...it plays extremely well to his voters.
An absolute tonne of stories back that up.

From a very quick Google
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/05/george-soros-orban-turns-to-familiar-scapegoat-as-hungary-rows-with-eu

https://www.dw.com/en/hungary-viktor-orban-rule-of-law-eu-budget/a-55581020

https://www.politico.eu/article/what-should-the-eu-do-about-hungary-coronavirus-viktor-orban/

There are an absolute tonne more.

What other countries in the EU have approved sputnik?
I can give you the answer...none.

reminds me of when there was a Polio outbreak in Germany in the 60's, East Germany were using a Russian vaccine and the West Germans wouldnt use it. Medicine and politics are close bedfellows.

22-02-2021 12:44AM

Lundstram wrote: »

https://twitter.com/onthewaycafeIRL/status/1363454230997180417

But it's all going to be ok because a few posters on here said they were just "temporarily unemployed".

Doesn't fit their narrow worldview so they'll conveniently overlook it, no different to the media at large. You won't find this closure featured on RTÉ or the Indo, propaganda machine must be kept turning.

gmisk · 22-02-2021 12:48AM

ypres5 wrote: »

was the attitude at the start really necessary? im just thinking from the position that we put all our eggs in the EU basket and that bit us on the arse. if we can go through our own approval process for Sputnik and if we can get a supply what'll be wrong with that? i know it isn't going to happen as the ship has sailed supply wise but i think it's a shame it wasn't considered

I was simply pointing out the important context around why one, and only one country in the eu have approved the sputnik vaccine.
Personally I would trust the EMA to do a more thorough job of an approval process on a new drug than the Irish equivalent.

If you have an issue with my attitude report my post.

22-02-2021 01:29AM

showpony1 wrote: »

679 cases in Ireland, and one death.
what am i supposed to think about that? pretend i care about that one death?
outrageous millions living this life cause of these numbers, hopefully there is a huge backlash soon.

Tis all about "the numbers", the cases, bugger all to do with people actually being ill. All common sense seems to have gone out the window.

Really do hope your right about a backlash, but:

“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” ― Mark Twain

Doubt he could have envisaged the scale of this one.

retro:electro · 22-02-2021 02:01AM

Leo getting it in the neck on this twitter thread.

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1363616787514933250?s=20

I actually can’t see one positive comment towards him. A lot of fed up people out there.

fin12 · 22-02-2021 02:07AM

Donald Trump wrote: »

Would you sit outside in Ireland along a beach in February to have a pint if a pub nearby was open?

You'd be more likely to be huddled inside by the fire. That's the simple point.

Yes I would, today was a gorgeous day, unfortunately I couldn’t get to a beach.

hynesie08 · 22-02-2021 02:26AM

retro:electro wrote: »

Leo getting it in the neck on this twitter thread.

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1363616787514933250?s=20

I actually can’t see one positive comment towards him. A lot of fed up people out there.

Just a lot of empty shouting and lunatics like Linda hayden. Not one person making an actual point.

Leo is a prick, but rambling at him is just a waste of finger strokes.

Polar101 · 22-02-2021 02:29AM

retro:electro wrote: »

I actually can’t see one positive comment towards him. A lot of fed up people out there.

That's strange, Twitter is usually such a positive oasis of opinions.

retro:electro · 22-02-2021 02:37AM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Just a lot of empty shouting and lunatics like Linda hayden. Not one person making an actual point.

Leo is a prick, but rambling at him is just a waste of finger strokes.

A few strange comments alright but on the whole they’re comments from normal people who are airing their frustrations. I find it strange how you and others have to dismiss everyone who feels differently to you as “lunatics”. Like it or not but people are turning. Maybe it’s knowing that fact that has you feeling insecure and insulting people

PTH2009 · 22-02-2021 02:39AM

retro:electro wrote: »

Leo getting it in the neck on this twitter thread.

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1363616787514933250?s=20

I actually can’t see one positive comment towards him. A lot of fed up people out there.

'Should be better' saving his own arse with that comment

Perhaps he was enjoying a few glasses of wine tonight posting that. We all know he likes to drink in public to show 'he's one of us and on the same team'

fin12 · 22-02-2021 02:42AM

Anyone else not care what the numbers are anymore cause it’s. Seems to me even if we are single figures, we are still locked up and that’s not the best bit... budget 2022, thank u so much for staying at home now here’s a nice new tax as ur rewards. **** this b*stard government.

ingo1984 · 22-02-2021 06:24AM

fin12 wrote: »

Anyone else not care what the numbers are anymore cause it’s. Seems to me even if we are single figures, we are still locked up and that’s not the best bit... budget 2022, thank u so much for staying at home now here’s a nice new tax as ur rewards. **** this b*stard government.

I gave up following the numbers when I found out they only included cases identified at HSE test centres and did not include the cases identified at the multiple privately run test centres dotted around the country. Figured then that only god knew what the daily number was.

22-02-2021 07:44AM

323 wrote: »

Tis all about "the numbers", the cases, bugger all to do with people actually being ill. All common sense seems to have gone out the window.

Really do hope your right about a backlash, but:

“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” ― Mark Twain

Doubt he could have envisaged the scale of this one.

It’s easier to convince people a quote is attributable to Mark Twain to give it some gravitas, that to acknowledge we don’t actually know where it came from

Penfailed · 22-02-2021 07:51AM

Lundstram wrote: »

https://twitter.com/onthewaycafeIRL/status/1363454230997180417

But it's all going to be ok because a few posters on here said they were just "temporarily unemployed".

One cafe closes (as unfortunate as it is) and you think everyone on PUP is going to be unemployed after this?

pjohnson · 22-02-2021 07:58AM

Lundstram wrote: »

https://twitter.com/onthewaycafeIRL/status/1363454230997180417

But it's all going to be ok because a few posters on here said they were just "temporarily unemployed".

Businesses never closed pre-covid is it?

Whats the life expectancy of a cafe anyway? Did it have any underlying conditions pre-Covid? How healthy were its accounts?

pjohnson · 22-02-2021 08:12AM

Cant imagine the cafe will get much support for blaming those responsible for the closure.

https://twitter.com/onthewaycafeIRL/status/1344369157584916480

At least we all know that the regular people here follow the ru.....oh wait they are the ones who think the rules dont apply to them. Now pretending to care about business.

22-02-2021 08:20AM

They’re right though and businesses need to say it a lot more.

ingo1984 · 22-02-2021 08:49AM

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/revealed-tds-in-line-for-pay-rise-to-push-their-wages-back-over-100000-40116383.html

I'm sure the TDs will do a whip around with their new salaries. Help out the needy.

They really are vile creatures.

Happydays2020 · 22-02-2021 08:53AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gabrielscally/status/1363581099394420736?s=21

Gabriel Scally out criticising the plan re extended opening hours or bars and nightclubs post Covid. I’d read the news getting reassurance that someone in cabinet had an idea to plan for life beyond Covid.
I don’t understand why the media give by such airtime here.

It also demonstrates the broader motivation for lock downs by the public health doctors. They see a bigger picture... quite scary to be honest.

JRant · 22-02-2021 09:18AM

ingo1984 wrote: »

I gave up following the numbers when I found out they only included cases identified at HSE test centres and did not include the cases identified at the multiple privately run test centres dotted around the country. Figured then that only god knew what the daily number was.

All positive test results are required to be submitted to the HSE. Doesn't matter if it's a private facility or not.

everlast75 · 22-02-2021 09:20AM

I've checked in this thread pretty much every day and it is interesting to note the change in tone and content.

At the height of the numbers, there appeared to be a lot of very concerned people, much wringing of hands and what appeared to be When the number dropped, the tone seemed to lean towards more uplifting of restrictions.

The numbers are down at the moment, and so we are on the second part.

PS - Personally, I've no problems with a protest. But I would wager that if there are little or no masks, the general public sentiment will not be with the protesters

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