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When will it all end?

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  • #3572
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 107 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GazzaL wrote: »
    It's amazing that even with vaccines being rolled out, the pro-lockdown crowd are still demanding permanent lockdowns.

    Well, they are going to get their wish. The vaccine isn't a magic bullet, and the country is still going to have to live with Covid, when the rollout is complete. Lockdowns are a cheap and effective way of protecting the hospitals right now. That might change when the cheap money dries up, but that is the strategy that they've decided to run with, and it's a good one from the perspective of the HSE and government. They are probably going to destroy your economy, and force a generation to move abroad, but that appears to be an afterthought.


  • #3573
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »
    Sorry who are the Pro Covid crowd, seems to me you have them confused with the Pro lockdown brigade or is there a split and the anti Covid Union are now aligned to the lockdown neutral lot due to a disagreement with the free choice lockdown alliance...

    I guess if you are in favour of any restrictions however light you are pro permanent lockdown. If you want no restrictions on spreading Covid or any restrictions on driving cars or landing planes on motorways then you are pro Covid.


  • #3574
    ujjjjjjjjj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    mcsean2163 wrote: »
    Blowjobs.

    Are they currently banned ?


  • #3575
    mcsean2163
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭mcsean2163


    ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »
    Are they currently banned ?

    They're allowed from a socially distant distance of 2 metres.

    Miming is just not the same.


  • #3576
    ujjjjjjjjj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    beauf wrote: »
    I guess if you are in favour of any restrictions however light you are pro permanent lockdown. If you want no restrictions on spreading Covid or any restrictions on driving cars or landing planes on motorways then you are pro Covid.

    What if you are happy about having restrictions as to where planes can land but anti covid restrictions?


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  • #3577
    ujjjjjjjjj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    mcsean2163 wrote: »
    They're allowed from a socially distant distance of 2 metres.

    Miming is just not the same.

    Interesting concept......


  • #3578
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »
    Never said it was the flu. I have made a mistake though.

    The save our health service argument is not the only defence method for the lockdown zealots, when challenged they resort to the 'so you think it's a flu' as a final attempt to avoid having a safe discussion.

    Can I ask you one question ?

    What exact criteria would you require for all restrictions and I mean all restrictions to be lifted ?

    Skynet to become sentient.

    I answered your question. So answer mine. What infectious illnesses do you want medical staff to continue to work with and not go home.


  • #3579
    ujjjjjjjjj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    beauf wrote: »
    Skynet to become sentient.

    I answered your question. So answer mine. What infectious illnesses do you want medical staff to continue to work with and not go home.

    It"s getting close to Skynet.

    Exactly the same ones that they did before Covid arrived in our hysterical minds.


  • #3580
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    mcsean2163 wrote: »
    They're allowed from a socially distant distance of 2 metres.

    Miming is just not the same.

    Good luck getting anyone to measure that accurately.


  • #3581
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »
    It"s getting close to Skynet.

    Exactly the same ones that they did before Covid arrived in our hysterical minds.

    So if Covid is no worse than the flu and I assume they don't work when they have the flu I assume you don't want them working if they have Covid.


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  • #3582
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »
    What if you are happy about having restrictions as to where planes can land but anti covid restrictions?

    See it's black and white. It's in favour of any restrictions or none. No middle ground.


  • #3583
    ujjjjjjjjj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    beauf wrote: »
    So if Covid is no worse than the flu and I assume they don't work when they have the flu I assume you don't want them working if they have Covid.

    I am sure many medical staff have gone to work with the flu......and many with covid.....


  • #3584
    ujjjjjjjjj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    beauf wrote: »
    See it's black and white. It's in favour of any restrictions or none. No middle ground.

    Life I find is kinda grey.....


  • #3585
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »
    I am sure many medical staff have gone to work with the flu......and many with covid.....

    So back to you want medical staff to work when sick. Because it's only a flu.


  • #3586
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »
    Life I find is kinda grey.....

    Not on this thread .

    Nothing is open, lockdown is forever etc..


  • #3587
    Glebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,200 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Another Sunday night, another nothing week ahead.


  • #3588
    ujjjjjjjjj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    beauf wrote: »
    So back to you want medical staff to work when sick. Because it's only a flu.

    Medical staff work all the time when somewhat sick just like the entire population does....be it the flu or covid or a cold or many other things.....


  • #3589
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,727 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Nervy wait for the new plan but as we all know certain people in power cant keep their mouths shut and plans will be leaked in dribs and drabs


  • #3590
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »
    Medical staff work all the time when somewhat sick just like the entire population does....be it the flu or covid or a cold or many other things.....

    Well I guess if Covid is just like a cold. We need even less precautions then the flu.

    You have to wonder why the world is making such a fuss about a cold like illness


  • #3591
    ujjjjjjjjj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    beauf wrote: »
    Well I guess if Covid is just like a cold. We need even less precautions then the flu.

    You have to wonder why the world is making such a fuss about a cold like illness

    Didn't say that but as usual rather than answering any questions you deflect.

    I will ask gain?

    Exactly what criteria do you want us to meet to entirely lift all restrictions?

    It is the same question I ask all lockdown people and I have yet to get an answer that makes any sense.

    Most just like you head off down some other line.....to deflect.


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  • #3592
    Samsonsmasher
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Samsonsmasher


    ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »
    Yes the irony hasn't been lost on me either. We suddenly seem to care about 80 and 90 year olds dieing whereas year after year they have just been a statistic. And by the way you are lucky to get a trolley normally, a chair is standard treatment procedure.

    There were plans afoot pre covid to bring in euthanasia.

    So the vaccine shot is supposed to keep the sick and very old alive so they can agree to be bumped off later with another jab?


  • #3593
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Samsonsmasher wrote: »
    There were plans afoot pre covid to bring in euthanasia.

    So the vaccine shot is supposed to keep the sick and very old alive so they can agree to be bumped off later with another jab?

    FFS
    Educate yourself on euthanasia will you.


  • #3594
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »
    Didn't say that but as usual rather than answering any questions you deflect.

    I will ask gain?

    Exactly what criteria do you want us to meet to entirely lift all restrictions?

    It is the same question I ask all lockdown people and I have yet to get an answer that makes any sense.

    Most just like you head off down some other line.....to deflect.

    Just curious, what's your criteria?


  • #3595
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,180 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    Just curious, what's your criteria?

    Just curious.....what's your Quest?


  • #3596
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    tara2k wrote: »
    Well, they are going to get their wish. The vaccine isn't a magic bullet, and the country is still going to have to live with Covid, when the rollout is complete. Lockdowns are a cheap and effective way of protecting the hospitals right now. That might change when the cheap money dries up, but that is the strategy that they've decided to run with, and it's a good one from the perspective of the HSE and government. They are probably going to destroy your economy, and force a generation to move abroad, but that appears to be an afterthought.

    Nope, no one is going to get their wish. This will end…….


  • #3597
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Just curious.....what's your Quest?

    To understand.


  • #3598
    ujjjjjjjjj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    Just curious, what's your criteria?

    Well quite simple really. Vaccinate all those over 65 and the medically vulnerable and then open up entirely and fully and get on with it.

    Have never been in favour of any legal restrictions oe enforced closures but accept people have been so terrified into submission that isn't where we are or have been.


  • #3599
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »
    Well quite simple really. Vaccinate all those over 65 and the medically vulnerable and then open up entirely and fully and get on with it.

    Have never been in favour of any legal restrictions oe enforced closures but accept people have been so terrified into submission that isn't where we are or have been.

    It will take a while to achieve that. But I agree when ALL vulnerable parts of society are vaccinated, we should ease up restrictions.

    That second part of your post.. well I'm sorry, people are not terrified, people chose to be careful.


  • #3600
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »
    Didn't say that but as usual rather than answering any questions you deflect.

    I will ask gain?

    Exactly what criteria do you want us to meet to entirely lift all restrictions?

    It is the same question I ask all lockdown people and I have yet to get an answer that makes any sense.

    Most just like you head off down some other line.....to deflect.

    Well you deflected my question. Like for like seems fair.

    I can't answer that as a "lockdown person" whatever that is, as I'm not pro a permanent lock down.
    But I suspect most people ProCovid people aren't looking for answers. Since when you look up most of their facts they are mostly untrue. Which tells its own story.

    If you look at the stats and the pattern, on the face of it, I guess you'd pick the most successful time as a benchmark to guide us going forward.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107064/coronavirus-cases-development-ireland/

    However we aren't dealing with the same situation as we were back then. We are in a worse position.


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  • #3601
    HBC08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,925 ✭✭✭HBC08


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    You said people went nuts at christmas, and thats emotive nonsense designed to spread a narrative.

    "Went nuts", as if it was the last days of sodom and gomorrah, as if the Irish public were let loose like a bunch of toddlers at break time. As if the pubs were actually open and as if the country in December wasn't still under a level of restriction unseen in our lifetimes.

    The ****ing Irish public didn't go nuts, they just went home.

    And that was enough.


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