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Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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  • #8912
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,171 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Mckonkey in the radio telling us covid may evade the vaccines and not to get excited.

    Absolutely Disgraceful.


  • #8913
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Mckonkey in the radio telling us covid may evade the vaccines and not to get excited.

    Absolutely Disgraceful.

    He knows his time in the limelight is nearing an end, hopefully!

    How he can say this after the news out of Israel last few days is just sad.


  • #8914
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭harr


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Mckonkey in the radio telling us covid may evade the vaccines and not to get excited.

    Absolutely Disgraceful.

    McKonkey,s a doom merchant and has been all through this and has been proven wrong a number of times .
    He just can’t help himself when ever a microphone is put in front of him. Why the media still interview him I don’t know .


  • #8915
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,083 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Mckonkey in the radio telling us covid may evade the vaccines and not to get excited.

    Absolutely Disgraceful.

    Good ole Sam

    Optimistic as usual :rolleyes:


  • #8916
    StevenToast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Mckonkey in the radio telling us covid may evade the vaccines and not to get excited.

    Absolutely Disgraceful.

    I stopped listening to the likes of him and luke oneill about a month or so into the start of this sh1t....

    I have no respect for their opinion....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



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  • #8917
    Flowergirl201
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Flowergirl201


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Mckonkey in the radio telling us covid may evade the vaccines and not to get excited.

    Absolutely Disgraceful.

    At this stage it feels like the next thing they will say is there is just no hope, just give up. We need some kind of positivity. Every day it seems there's a new expert on the news with bad news. Yesterday there was a random doctor saying don't tell the kids they are going back to school. Today the vacation doesn't work against the Brazilian strain. What next?


  • #8918
    Azatadine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,606 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Mckonkey in the radio telling us covid may evade the vaccines and not to get excited.

    Absolutely Disgraceful.

    All of these guys like McConkey, Staines, Ryan, Killeen etc. make me wonder how good our educational institutions are when these lads hold high level positions such as Professor. Whatever their initial stances were at the start of this thing, when it was an unknown, its very concerning that they seem to refuse to acknowledge the science and data.


  • #8919
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    He knows his time in the limelight is nearing an end, hopefully!

    For ages I couldn't put my finger on what it was that annoyed me so much about McConkey. Unlike others here I have no problem listening to the likes of Tomas Ryan or Gerry Kileen and the like so it was puzzling me what I had against McConkey. Then someone on twitter hit the nail on the head. He catastrophises everything. He's not saying we need further restrictions or this will go on longer than we might want or any of the normal stuff. It's always the most disastrous thing possible. What he hopes to achieve by essentially telling people to abandon all hope I don't really know.


  • #8920
    UDAWINNER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭UDAWINNER


    ninebeanrows wrote: »
    Airports open!? Anybody arriving in has to have had a negative PCR and self-isolate for 14 days.

    Sealing the borders does not equal opening up society - you do realise that?
    do you really believe they are, probably in work the next day or going to relatives house. What do they do if they live in a house share. Its like when we start having tourists coming back, do you think they'll self isolate, will they fcuk


  • #8921
    Patches oHoulihan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭Patches oHoulihan


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Mckonkey in the radio telling us covid may evade the vaccines and not to get excited.

    Absolutely Disgraceful.

    Sure we have the vaccines getting rolled out and we are getting gloomier.
    People like him should be gagged. Doomiest man around.

    Open the ****ing country and lets get our lives back.


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  • #8922
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    The RCSI should ask McConkey what research is he basing his remarks that the Brazil variant evades vaccines on?

    If he can't provide it he should retract the statement. On the face of it, it appeared a grossly irresponsible statement to make.


  • #8923
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,345 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    On a slightly lighter note,

    UK plan is due tomorrow
    Irish revised plan Tuesday.

    Anybody think it's going to be a "can I copy your homework." "Yeah just change a few things so nobody notices"

    Michael desperately trying to change dates to look like it's his idea.


  • #8924
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Mckonkey in the radio telling us covid may evade the vaccines and not to get excited.

    Absolutely Disgraceful.

    He’s an absolute donkey. I’ve no doubt the vaccines will work and when it comes to my turn I will certainly be getting it, but if you were in between two minds about getting it the narrative out of these people lately would not endear you to it. Restrictions still needed after it, masks still needed after it, no social gatherings, Christmas possibly off the cards and now we’re being told they may not even work. So if you were in any way undecided then why would you bother?


  • #8925
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Mcdonkey still at it I see.
    Why he's still getting airtime is baffling.


  • #8926
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Interesting that in the Zero Covid utopia of Melbourne today the crowd booed and jeered the Government during the final cup presentation...looks like mandatory quarantine plus totalitarian state laws keeping them locked down for months on end didn’t go down too well.
    Funny how none of the Zero Covid misinformation givers here reference Victoria or Melbourne with promoting it.


  • #8927
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Australians disagree with their government for more reasons than they disagree. Covid actually has very little to do with it.


  • #8928
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,769 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Mckonkey in the radio telling us covid may evade the vaccines and not to get excited.

    Absolutely Disgraceful.

    Is he basing that on any evidence?

    Because that's the bare minimum I'd expect from a medical and scientific professional.


  • #8929
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Australians disagree with their government for more reasons than they disagree. Covid actually has very little to do with it.

    I think being locked down for 4 months under draconian rules might have something to do with it. Do you remember crowds booing at the Australian final previously?


  • #8930
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Is he basing that on any evidence?

    Because that's the bare minimum I'd expect from a medical and scientific professional.

    Ah come on he predicted 80,000 to 120,000 deaths yet he still gets airtime. I believe at this stage RTE is deliberately trolling the public.


  • #8931
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 232 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    SeaMermaid wrote: »
    The population needs to be on board with that otherwise its just bound to fail from the start.

    How do you get the population on board if they're being repeatedly lied to and treated with absolute contempt?

    The publication of the What Tony Will Let Us Do plan this week is the Government's last chance to convince an increasingly angry public that it's acting in good faith.

    I anticipate compliance will collapse in March.


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  • #8932
    Kha1993
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭Kha1993


    GeorgeBailey wrote: »
    For ages I couldn't put my finger on what it was that annoyed me so much about McConkey. Unlike others here I have no problem listening to the likes of Tomas Ryan or Gerry Kileen and the like so it was puzzling me what I had against McConkey. Then someone on twitter hit the nail on the head. He catastrophises everything. He's not saying we need further restrictions or this will go on longer than we might want or any of the normal stuff. It's always the most disastrous thing possible. What he hopes to achieve by essentially telling people to abandon all hope I don't really know.

    Spot on. Even Ryan, I can tolerate, he generally backs it up with a plan, even if you don’t agree. With McConkey everything is doomed. I know some people have reservations whether vaccines will 100% work. But with McConkey, I get the feeling he wants them not to work. Like it would be great on a scientific and research basis for him if it doesn’t work and it goes on and on. He’s the only person I get this from.


  • #8933
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,264 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I find it hilarious that they tell us constantly they cant predict what next week will bring and they must wait for numbers and cases etc . But suddenly they can predict what the summer will be like and how we can’t expect hospitality to open


  • #8934
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 232 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Any statement McConkey makes should include, in the headline, the phrase "Man who overestimated Covid deaths by 6250% makes new claim".


  • #8935
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I find it hilarious that they tell us constantly they cant predict what next week will bring and they must wait for numbers and cases etc . But suddenly they can predict what the summer will be like and how we can’t expect hospitality to open
    The government and NPHET have repeatedly said this week that they will not commit to dates for any easing, and that it would be irresponsible to put targets in place

    Nolan is the latest
    Prof Nolan suggested it would be inappropriate to set out timelines on what restrictions could be lifted if daily case numbers reached a particular level by a specific date.

    “It’s inappropriate almost to lay out timeline or numbers...at 100 cases a day we can do X and at 70 cases a day we can do Y...” he said.

    He said Nphet and the Government would have to observe the impact of increased social mixing associated with measures that may be taken to ease restrictions in the context of the B117 variant and to “see where we are at the point and then determine what the next step will be

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/new-covid-19-case-numbers-may-not-fall-below-100-per-day-until-april-prof-philip-nolan-predicts-1.4490890?mode=amp

    so is this so called plan they are publishing Tuesday going to be just a list of what opens in what order? With no timeframes or targets?


  • #8936
    D9Male
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭D9Male


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Ah come on he predicted 80,000 to 120,000 deaths yet he still gets airtime. I believe at this stage RTE is deliberately trolling the public.


    He didn't "predict" that. He gave that as a worst case scenario. His median prediction was 20k deaths, I seem to remember. And all of this was in the context of no restrictions, with the virus doing the rounds of the populations and no vaccine.

    At this stage I believe posts like yours are deliberately trolling the forum.


  • #8937
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,264 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Stheno wrote: »
    The government and NPHET have repeatedly said this week that they will not commit to dates for any easing, and that it would be irresponsible to put targets in place

    Nolan is the latest



    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/new-covid-19-case-numbers-may-not-fall-below-100-per-day-until-april-prof-philip-nolan-predicts-1.4490890?mode=amp

    so is this so called plan they are publishing Tuesday going to be just a list of what opens in what order? With no timeframes or targets?

    Its behind a paywall for me . But if they can’t predict then they need to stop guessing about the summer too in my opinion


  • #8938
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,143 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Stheno wrote: »
    The government and NPHET have repeatedly said this week that they will not commit to dates for any easing, and that it would be irresponsible to put targets in place

    Nolan is the latest



    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/new-covid-19-case-numbers-may-not-fall-below-100-per-day-until-april-prof-philip-nolan-predicts-1.4490890?mode=amp

    so is this so called plan they are publishing Tuesday going to be just a list of what opens in what order? With no timeframes or targets?
    It's been explained several times that putting dates and targets is self defeating. Compliance collapses as dates or targets approach so the targets are ultimately not achieved.

    The reality is we are looking at one week horizons for lifting of restrictions.


  • #8939
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,810 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    D9Male wrote: »
    He didn't "predict" that. He gave that as a worst case scenario. His median prediction was 20k deaths, I seem to remember. And all of this was in the context of no restrictions, with the virus doing the rounds of the populations and no vaccine.

    At this stage I believe posts like yours are deliberately trolling the forum.

    True but he did say in July, in the face of serious evidence to the contrary, that vaccines could take another 10 years.


  • #8940
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Its behind a paywall for me . But if they can’t predict then they need to stop guessing about the summer too in my opinion

    Yep, it's like they are talking out of both sides of their mouths


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  • #8941
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    It's been explained several times that putting dates and targets is self defeating. Compliance collapses as dates or targets approach so the targets are ultimately not achieved.

    The reality is we are looking at one week horizons for lifting of restrictions.

    Surely not putting dates just an indefinite lockdown would be worse re compliance ?


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