When will it all end?

The Big Easy · 21-02-2021 02:11PM

I emailed the following to the two sitting ministers in my constituency. It's great to vent on here but if we really want to start living again, we have to exert pressure on our representatives. They are our representatives, not our rulers.

If everyone on here who is disgruntled was to email their government TDs at least they would get an idea of the shifting will and resolve of the people.

'As a new arrival to your constituency, I implore you to please allow the decent people of Ireland to begin living their lives once more.

These ongoing restrictions have overstepped their legitimacy and our now more damaging than that they purport to protect us from.

I consider myself a constituent of the reasonable right-minded majority in Ireland. My family and those close to me are being pushed beyond the point of reasonableness.

I fear for the social fabric of this country should we be pushed any further. I despair of our elected officials at this juncture. You are our representatives, not our rulers.

I don't know if this fact has escaped you and your cabinet colleagues as you discuss our fate with careless abandon. Every careless throwaway comment is deeply damaging to our mental health. All the conjecture and mixed messaging is playing with our wellbeing.

Please represent me and those like me, stop condescending us with talk of poor behaviour and compliance. We have done all we can, by our own choice and regard for our fellow citizens. However, the time has come to accept risk and live once more with the uncertainty of life, that has been present since the beginning of time.'

Ginger n Lemon · 21-02-2021 02:15PM

beauf wrote: »

You must never buy insurance for things that have never happened to you so.

That is MAYO hospital DURING the last 2 months.

When "hospitals" are supposedly "overwhelmed".

When will you open your eyes??

beauf · 21-02-2021 02:21PM

the kelt wrote: »

No you’re trying to make out that it’s worse elsewhere cos they have a curfew without actually realising what that curfew is versus what we have and making yourself look foolish by still trying to say “it’s worse in other countries because they have a curfew”

So Holland or here curfew versus 5k restriction? Still think curfew is worse like you’ve been claiming since your 11.37am post?

I said not all countries have the same curfew rules. You've cherry picked one of the less restrictive ones, because it suits you.

This is their rules on beaches..

"....The beach and parks
Especially when the weather is good, in the weekends and outside of regular working hours, parks and the beach tend to get too busy. Because of that, people will no longer be able to keep the minimum distance of 1,5 meters to others. Therefore, the Government strongly advices to avoid visiting the parks and beach during these busy moments and avoid crowds altogether. When it becomes to busy on the beach or in parks, the Municipality has the option of closing the area...."

pjohnson · 21-02-2021 02:22PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

That is MAYO hospital DURING the last 2 months.

When "hospitals" are supposedly "overwhelmed".

When will you open your eyes??

Its almost like theres different departments in a hospital or something? Mysterious alright.

beauf · 21-02-2021 02:27PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

That is MAYO hospital DURING the last 2 months.

When "hospitals" are supposedly "overwhelmed".

When will you open your eyes??

If you only see negativity on the media people complain its excessive scare mongering. If they they try to lighten the mood people complain about that also there is no pandemic. Can't win really can they.

the kelt · 21-02-2021 02:29PM

beauf wrote: »

I said not all countries have the same curfew rules. You've cherry picked one of the less restrictive ones, because it suits you.

This is their rules on beaches..

"....The beach and parks
Especially when the weather is good, in the weekends and outside of regular working hours, parks and the beach tend to get too busy. Because of that, people will no longer be able to keep the minimum distance of 1,5 meters to others. Therefore, the Government strongly advices to avoid visiting the parks and beach during these busy moments and avoid crowds altogether. When it becomes to busy on the beach or in parks, the Municipality has the option of closing the area...."

Oh my god I didn’t realise they wanted people to still keep their social distance which is actually bloody less restrictive than our social distance of 2m and may close them if they become busy!

That changes everything!!

Are you trying to make your own original point deliberately less relevant?

I mean we had 2 frontline doctors who saved a family’s pet up a mountain a few weeks ago, good news story, nice happy ending, 2 doctors put hiking away from everyone and carried the dog 10k down a snowy mountain

Who are now being investigated for being outside their 5k but it could be worse, we could have a curfew!

Honestly!

Parachutes · 21-02-2021 02:31PM

"Enough with the pretence, you're in lockdown forever" says NPHET

beauf · 21-02-2021 02:33PM

GazzaL wrote: »

Twitter.....

https://twitter.com/DrZeroCraic/status/1363432154974281728

https://twitter.com/drvkeating/status/1363406697688137728

Well I'm convinced let's just repeat the Xmas again.

It's amazing how in one post medical experts are fools and should be ignored. The next post they are back to being experts. It's great they have a hive mind and all think and act the same.

beauf · 21-02-2021 02:33PM

Parachutes wrote: »

"Enough with the pretence, you're in lockdown forever" says NPHET

Maybe its only true if it's said on Twitter though ..

beauf · 21-02-2021 02:35PM

the kelt wrote: »

Oh my god I didn’t realise they wanted people to still keep their social distance which is actually bloody less restrictive than our social distance of 2m and may close them if they become busy!

That changes everything!!

Are you trying to make your own original point deliberately less relevant?

So you want the curfew even if it means the beach maybe be closed. Makes sense.

beauf · 21-02-2021 02:37PM

the kelt wrote: »

....

I mean we had 2 frontline doctors who saved a family’s pet up a mountain a few weeks ago, good news story, nice happy ending, 2 doctors put hiking away from everyone and carried the dog 10k down a snowy mountain

Who are now being investigated for being outside their 5k but it could be worse, we could have a curfew!

Honestly!

This is no different than complaining about those dancing medical staff. Irony.

the kelt · 21-02-2021 02:39PM

beauf wrote: »

So you want the curfew even if it means the beach maybe be closed. Makes sense.

Let’s see. Option to go to beach, it might be closed then maybe go somewhere else in the country, anywhere else in the country for the day

Versus

5k restriction from my house!

Are you genuinely arguing which is better?

Ginger n Lemon · 21-02-2021 02:39PM

beauf wrote: »

If you only see negativity on the media people complain its excessive scare mongering. If they they try to lighten the mood people complain about that also there is no pandemic. Can't win really can they.

Are you serious?

We have an
1) Empty hospital in Ireland
2) At least 20 + nurses in such with very little to no work
3) They are dancing to occupy their time
4) HSE's Reid lad tells us that hospitals are at full capacity close to being overwhelmed

And all you see is some nurses trying to lighten the mood of a country that has 25% unemployment.

I ask again, are you serious with this rubbish post of yours? How are dancing nurses in an empty Mayo hospital suppose to lighten the mood of unemployed people who have been sitting at home for months on end, fearing their job is lost due to restrictions imposed for the very purpose not to "overwhelm" the empty hospitals?

What you are posting today is disgraceful - know this.

beauf · 21-02-2021 02:42PM

the kelt wrote: »

Let’s see. Option to go to beach, it might be closed then maybe go somewhere else in the country, anywhere else in the country for the day

Versus

5k restriction from my house!

Are you genuinely asking which is better?

Guess we'd better plan to slavishly copy the Dutch so, if you prefer it.

the kelt · 21-02-2021 02:43PM

beauf wrote: »

Guess we'd better plan to slavishly copy the Dutch so, if you prefer it.

So your prefer the 5k restriction so?

beauf · 21-02-2021 02:44PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Are you serious?

We have an
1) Empty hospital in Ireland
2) At least 20 + nurses in such with very little to no work
3) They are dancing to occupy their time
4) HSE's Reid lad tells us that hospitals are at full capacity close to being overwhelmed

And all you see is some nurses trying to lighten the mood of a country that has 25% unemployment.

I ask again, are you serious with this rubbish post of yours? How are dancing nurses in an empty Mayo hospital suppose to lighten the mood of unemployed people who have been sitting at home for months on end, fearing their job is lost due to restrictions imposed for the very purpose not to "overwhelm" the empty hospitals?

What you are posting today is disgraceful - know this.

You might want to contact the media and let them know the hospital is empty. ..

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/2021/01/10/covid-pressures-continue-to-escalate-at-mayo-university-hospital/

Better not go for walk with a dog either. They should be working 24/7.

Ginger n Lemon · 21-02-2021 02:47PM

beauf wrote: »

You might want to contact the media and let them know the hospital is empty. ..

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/2021/01/10/covid-pressures-continue-to-escalate-at-mayo-university-hospital/

Better not go for walk with a dog either. They should be working 24/7.

That article is 5 weeks old.

Are you just posting rubbish now for the sake of posting rubbish or you genuinely have nothing to say?

In fairness I dont expect a big outrage from you about empty Mayo hospital or dancing nurses in it, you think that 6 weeks of level 5 lockdown is not that long afterall. After country already has spent 5 out of 9 months before Jan 2021 in a level 5 lockdown.

beauf · 21-02-2021 02:49PM

the kelt wrote: »

So your prefer the 5k restriction so?

Well since I can cherry pick anywhere. I can pick somewhere with no restrictions at all. That would be my preference. Though I'd also pick a place with no Covid. So pick somewhere that has lifted restrictions because there numbers are so low or zero.

SnuggyBear · 21-02-2021 02:51PM

the kelt wrote: »

So your prefer the 5k restriction so?

I dunno why your wasting your time and energy on him.

beauf · 21-02-2021 02:52PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

That article is 5 weeks old.

Are you just posting rubbish now for the sake of posting rubbish or you genuinely have nothing to say?

In fairness I dont expect a big outrage from you about empty Mayo hospital or dancing nurses in it, you think that 6 weeks of level 5 lockdown is not that long afterall. After country already has spent 5 out of 9 months before Jan 2021 in a level 5 lockdown.

We started from a point of this is going to last forever and everything is closed and we are not able to do anything.

Seems none of that is true from what you are saying.

beauf · 21-02-2021 02:55PM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

I dunno why your wasting your time and energy on him.

Wasn't the point that people can't do anything. So it's either this or nothing. Unless you actually can do other things and would prefer to do that than this.

the kelt · 21-02-2021 02:57PM

beauf wrote: »

Well since I can cherry pick anywhere. I can pick somewhere with no restrictions at all. That would be my preference. Though I'd also pick a place with no Covid. So pick somewhere that has lifted restrictions because there numbers are so low or zero.

I have to give ye credit mind, you’re the first poster who actually went out of their way to argue down their own original point in subsequent posts without even realising it.

Ginger n Lemon · 21-02-2021 02:58PM

beauf wrote: »

We started from a point of this is going to last forever and everything is closed and we are not able to do anything.

Seems none of that is true from what you are saying.

I didnt start from that point.

Sorry this is just pointless to continue. welcome to the ignore list

21-02-2021 03:04PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

How are dancing nurses in an empty Mayo hospital suppose to lighten the mood.

Makes me happier then your Venice video that's for sure

Do we know when the video was shot?

end of the road · 21-02-2021 03:04PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Are you serious?

We have an
1) Empty hospital in Ireland
2) At least 20 + nurses in such with very little to no work
3) They are dancing to occupy their time
4) HSE's Reid lad tells us that hospitals are at full capacity close to being overwhelmed

And all you see is some nurses trying to lighten the mood of a country that has 25% unemployment.

I ask again, are you serious with this rubbish post of yours? How are dancing nurses in an empty Mayo hospital suppose to lighten the mood of unemployed people who have been sitting at home for months on end, fearing their job is lost due to restrictions imposed for the very purpose not to "overwhelm" the empty hospitals?

What you are posting today is disgraceful - know this.

the hospital wasn't empty, a specific department of it may have been on a very temporary basis.
what you post every day is disgraceful - know this.
it's also lies, misrepresentation and all else.

Ginger n Lemon · 21-02-2021 03:06PM

end of the road wrote: »

the hospital wasn't empty, a specific department of it may have been on a very temporary basis.
what you post every day is disgraceful - know this.
it's also lies, misrepresentation and all else.

Please dont. I dont know if you are aware or not but in Ireland, less people died in 2020 than in 2019.

Seriously today is not the day for your posts. it really isnt. Get courage - go outside. seriously

end of the road · 21-02-2021 03:07PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

That article is 5 weeks old.

Are you just posting rubbish now for the sake of posting rubbish or you genuinely have nothing to say?

In fairness I dont expect a big outrage from you about empty Mayo hospital or dancing nurses in it, you think that 6 weeks of level 5 lockdown is not that long afterall. After country already has spent 5 out of 9 months before Jan 2021 in a level 5 lockdown.

doesn't matter how old the article is, your lie that the hospital is empty is still a lie.

beauf · 21-02-2021 03:10PM

the kelt wrote: »

I have to give ye credit mind, you’re the first poster who actually went out of their way to argue down their own original point in subsequent posts without even realising it.

Well we were talking about Ireland then we switched to Venice and then France. So I was talking about Paris, but then we switched to Holland, so I don't see why I can't switch to new Zealand or the Isle of Man, or some tropical island.

This thread is about re-drawing an imaginary line in the sand to suit yourself. That works both ways.

end of the road · 21-02-2021 03:10PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I didnt start from that point.

Sorry this is just pointless to continue. welcome to the ignore list

it's exactly where you started from, it's been your whole complaint throughout this whole forum that we are unable to do anything.

beauf · 21-02-2021 03:13PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Please dont. I dont know if you are aware or not but in Ireland, less people died in 2020 than in 2019. ..

That seems like a good thing.

Will you be taking about people not living life next?

When will it all end?

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