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When will it all end?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭tommyombomb


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    Instead of continuing at Level 5 for another 9 weeks what I would prefer to happen is have real draconian restrictions for 3 to 4 weeks instead. Like the French did have a letter where you can only go out for 1 hour a day for excersie or go to a shop..curfew at 9pm. Can only travel 2km like the initial lockdown. Then you should see the numbers drop and then maybe open it up in mid April at lever 3/4. Waiting until mid May or beyond at level 5 is cruel...

    This would be a great strategy. Feel though if went full on, there would need to be a two week slught easing to mentally prep the country. Not major opening but just a few weeks where can visit people outside. Problem though is if this happens, some people will go wild and be house parties everywhere 😭


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,802 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    JMNolan wrote: »
    My son has a few buddies over today and he's heading off tonight for a house party. He's thrilled and I'm thrilled for him.

    Your son should be (and hopefully is) arrested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Your son should be (and hopefully is) arrested.

    I doubt he will though ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭Pigeon Chaser


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Your son should be (and hopefully is) arrested.

    His son is 100% right.

    I hope he has a great night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭E mac


    His son is 100% right.

    I hope he has a great night.

    Can you ask him can I come too....I'll bring a case of Coors and a bottle of captain Morgan.


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  • Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've learned the Guitar and several pieces on the Harp if they are looking for music


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,384 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Edz87 wrote: »
    I've learned the Guitar and several pieces on the Harp if they are looking for music

    D'ya know wonderwall?






    On the Harp like.....


  • Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    D'ya know wonderwall?






    On the Harp like.....


    Yes. AND Wagon Wheel. I'm unreal so I am :cool::D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    We've enough here to organise our own houseparty, leave the youngster have their own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,939 ✭✭✭Hooked


    His son is 100% right.

    I hope he has a great night.


    YOU'RE WRONG!!!!

    His son is 110% right...


    Go enjoy your life. This lockdown is utter bóllöcks!

    12 people under 35 have died "WITH" covid - in almost a YEAR!!!



    Sure, lock up the over 75's and the very sick...
    but it's beyond a joke now to lock up the rest of us...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,714 ✭✭✭✭josip


    E mac wrote: »
    Can you ask him can I come too....I'll bring a case of Coors and a bottle of captain Morgan.


    Ah, Captain Morgan, you'll be popular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭E mac


    Miss those texts. Saturday evening round 7 when there's a flurry of texts, "going out"? "Pints"? "What are you doing tonight"? "What time"? "Sound!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭E mac


    josip wrote: »
    Ah, Captain Morgan, you'll be popular.

    jaysus...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    CONSI wrote: »
    What I find frustrating is that originally we had an R Rate that we had to get below, then it was cases, then it was hospitalisations. The message doesnt remain consistent. Places like Kerry or some other counties have been trending below 10 cases a day for a while and still cant reopen or extend their 5km movement (not in Kerry myself but it was one county I remember from the report I saw). People can take 9 more weeks of this when the vaccine roll out plan is such a shambles and no end in sight

    Exactly, keep shifting goal posts.

    Just wait till we are 100% vaccinated and hospitals empty when they still say level 5 lockdown to continue to October 2023 .... even the masochists loving this ****e will be marching


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Originally it was three weeks to flatten the curve. 12 months on we are no closer to getting out of this.

    There are only two possibilities.

    1. This was the plan all along and an evil plot is afoot to destroy the world as we know it.

    2. Our leaders are utterly incompetent and are making this up as they go along with no clue how we get out of this and are only interested in clinging to power whatever the cost.

    It believe option 2 is the reality.

    Nobody thinking person can take this pandemic seriously anymore.

    Each one of us must ask themselves right now:

    "What are you prepared to do?"

    Ok...What are you prepared to do?

    What's your solution to it all?

    Open everything up? We saw what happened at Xmas when there was only a very slight relaxation of restrictions when numbers were similar to what we have now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭the kelt


    A young fella going out to have a few drinks in a friends house should be arrested!

    And

    Opening up schools to educate our children is "throwing the populace a bone"

    Jesus Christ what have we become???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    the kelt wrote: »
    A young fella going out to have a few drinks in a friends house should be arrested!

    And

    Opening up schools to educate our children is "throwing the populace a bone"

    Jesus Christ what have we become???

    Funny thing is they ll ask you now "whats your proposed solution??"

    and when you do answer they ll say "well you are not an expert though" :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭antgal23


    aido79 wrote: »
    Ok...What are you prepared to do?

    What's your solution to it all?

    Open everything up? We saw what happened at Xmas when there was only a very slight relaxation of restrictions when numbers were similar to what we have now.

    1/ 4 week total lockdown, followed by a level 4 working down approach

    2/ Regional lockdowns for places with high cases


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,802 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    antgal23 wrote: »
    1/ 4 week total lockdown, followed by a level 4 working down approach

    2/ Regional lockdowns for places with high cases

    So people are going to houseparties in level 5 and you expect that to change if suddenly we call it a "total lockdown"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    Hooked wrote: »
    YOU'RE WRONG!!!!

    His son is 110% right...


    Go enjoy your life. This lockdown is utter bóllöcks!

    12 people under 35 have died "WITH" covid - in almost a YEAR!!!



    Sure, lock up the over 75's and the very sick...
    but it's beyond a joke now to lock up the rest of us...

    Deaths are only part of the picture. We seen from each wave so far that cases rise exponentially before lockdowns start to have an effect. If cases were allowed to rise it will naturally result in more people being hospitalised.
    You're right in saying the number of younger people dying has been low but do you have any proof that most people under say 65 who require medical treatment for covid would survive if that medical treatment wasn't available to them as there was no doctor or nurse available to treat them?


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  • Posts: 338 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Funny thing is they ll ask you now "whats your proposed solution??"

    and when you do answer they ll say "well you are not an expert though" :D

    They are gaslighting people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭antgal23


    Quazzie wrote: »
    So people are going to houseparties in level 5 and you expect that to change if suddenly we call it a "total lockdown"?

    I would expect more things to be closed and fewer people travelling from A to B


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    antgal23 wrote: »
    1/ 4 week total lockdown, followed by a level 4 working down approach

    2/ Regional lockdowns for places with high cases

    What do you mean by total lockdown? We've had level 5 for well over 4 weeks and the cases are only just dropping below 1000 a day now.

    I'd agree with the regional lockdowns in theory but they're impossible to police in reality because there's still alot of people travelling for work and other essential activities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Might be sooner than we think:

    "But the consistent and rapid decline in daily cases since Jan. 8 can be explained only by natural immunity. Behavior didn’t suddenly improve over the holidays; Americans traveled more over Christmas than they had since March. Vaccines also don’t explain the steep decline in January. Vaccination rates were low and they take weeks to kick in."


    https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731

    The interesting thing about that article is the assertion that scientists are now afraid of using the term Herd Immunity for PR reasons


    Trust the science and that.


  • Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JMNolan wrote: »
    My son has a few buddies over today and he's heading off tonight for a house party. He's thrilled and I'm thrilled for him.

    Sorry but no, thats ridiculous carry on. Thats spreading at a stupid level and part of the reason we get stuck in continued level 5.

    I get people are pissed off but house parties with dozens of people crammed in aint going to resolve this issue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭mcsean2163


    antgal23 wrote: »
    It's probably been highlighted here already but I have a question

    If 2/3 s of new cases are under 45 ( not going to die) and numbers are falling why persist with Level 5?

    There are many people out there terrified that they will lose the Pandemic Unemployment Payment or no longer be allowed to work from home.

    This is sizable population and a defined voting block. It's extremely important to retain their support by borrowing enormous sums of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,170 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Except they're throwing a bone to people who want schools open. So they're not throwing bones, other than the ones they're throwing to some people.

    Yeah and it doesn’t make people happy. Throwing bones doesn’t make people happy. Better to stick to the plan. If opening schools is factored into the plan then fine. If they’re just doing it to appease parents of school age children then it’s not as good.

    People are saying they want to be thrown bones. But they don’t. They want the place reopened. And that’s not happening for a little while yet.


  • Posts: 389 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would be willing to bet if they started charging people for covid tests, say €300 and stopped giving €350 a week to isolate you'll see cases disappear to absolutely nothing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    mcsean2163 wrote: »
    There are many people out there terrified that they will lose the Pandemic Unemployment Payment or no longer be allowed to work from home.

    I'd say that number pales in comparison to the people itching to get back to work to earn a decent wage and the people who can't wait to get back to the office so they don't have to work from their kitchen table sitting on an uncomfortable chair and home schooling a couple of kids at the same time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭aido79


    tommybrees wrote: »
    I would be willing to bet if they started charging people for covid tests, say €300 and stopped giving €350 a week to isolate you'll see cases disappear to absolutely nothing

    Yeah and if they stopped x-raying people cases of broken bones will go down too.


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