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Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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  • #7562
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Can you not already meet your family if you want to?

    Most seem to be doing it anyway.

    Yeh but they need to allow it . Lots are not and suffering the effects


  • #7563
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    I regurgitate the news wrote: »
    So fcuk anyone working in hospitality trying to pay their mortgage and provide for their family?

    It's absolutely shocking the lack of empathy for the plight of others.


  • #7564
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,435 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Yeh but they need to allow it . Lots are not and suffering the effects

    True but I wish this lot would make the decision for themselves. If they are miserable and missing family members, then bloody meet them.


  • #7565
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,057 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    I regurgitate the news wrote: »
    So fcuk anyone working in hospitality trying to pay their mortgage and provide for their family?

    No, but that's an actual large risk in regards covid spread. The others are not imo


  • #7566
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Level 5 from October 2020 - May 2021 so with a three week reprieve in December. Septic stuff

    (I’m in Cork and I’ve been through 25 checkpoints this week. They are still there)


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  • #7567
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    True but I wish this lot would make the decision for themselves. If they are miserable and missing family members, then bloody meet them.

    Exactly


  • #7568
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Whats the alternative open up and hospitals in an even worse position than early January? Compliance is waning as it is so Ro unlikely to stay below 1 with current restrictions. Their seems to be no real answers at the moment which is the problem.


  • #7569
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,314 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Yes that's possible

    It's also possible that such a strategy will lose the compliance of a lot of people along the way

    That's 5 months minimum of not seeing friends, family, partners within counties not to mind in other counties

    The restrictions might not have changed but a lot of people won't comply for that long imo

    But the Catch 22 of the situation is if people don't comply then cases increase and restrictions just go on and on and on indefinitely. People here seem to totally to not take into account that less compliance and more mixing only prolongs the situation by increasing the incidence rate of the virus in the community. Some people on here are in total denial about reality. The situation won't be improved by more people picking the virus up.

    It’s not about the government trying to "give something back" - they tried that in December and look where we ended up.

    People were sick of restrictions then, but it made no difference, the virus still spread like crazy and we had to shut down all over again with even greater strictness.

    "Ah people need to stop complying" - I read that again and again. And what will that prove? All that will happen is more cases, hospitalisations and deaths and further delays to the vaccination programme and a ultimately longer and more damaging period of strict restrictions. It's totally counterproductive.


  • #7570
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    New plan with no defined opening dates in correlation to numbers

    Won't end well


  • #7571
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    At this point it’s surely worth just dealing with the fine.

    9 more weeks, This isn’t workable


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  • #7572
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,314 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    New plan with no defined opening dates in correlation to numbers

    Won't end well

    Things are being floated in the media.

    We haven't seen any plan yet.


  • #7573
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Numbers were going up in December. They're going down now. So why the talk of keeping level 5 restrictions until May?

    I have no idea. Does not make sense.


  • #7574
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,355 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Arghus wrote: »
    But the Catch 22 of the situation is if people don't comply then cases increase and restrictions just go on and on and on indefinitely. People here seem to totally to not take into account that less compliance and more mixing only prolongs the situation by increasing the incidence rate of the virus in the community. Some people on here are in total denial about reality. The situation won't be improved by more people picking the virus up.

    It’s not about the government trying to "give something back" - they tried that in December and look where we ended up.

    People were sick of restrictions then, but it made no difference, the virus still spread like crazy and we had to shut down all over again with even greater strictness.

    "Ah people need to stop complying" - I read that again and again. And what will that prove? All that will happen is more cases, hospitalisations and deaths and further delays to the vaccination programme and a ultimately longer and more damaging period of strict restrictions. It's totally counterproductive.

    After 4 months of level 5 (with a 3 week break that I didnt take) I'm beginning to get numbed. I feel terrible saying it but I'm not sure I'm far away from the point where I just dont care anymore.


  • #7575
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    At this point it’s surely worth just dealing with the fine.

    9 more weeks, This isn’t workable

    Its more than 9 weeks surely?


  • #7576
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Luke O'Neill acting like its Christmas on Prime Time


  • #7577
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Maybe. But if compliance is dropping in any sort of meaningful way, it's among people who don't have smartphones.

    Those that do are being remarkably compliant.

    You've asked in in the past for icu admissions, discharges, deaths etc.

    goes back to dec 1st. Deaths per month run into other months so overall total is at top, same with other totals.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uxf1qxEMa0Hl5iQOrqvj6nTCOXp919Ysht0tkKCkiSc/edit?usp=sharing


  • #7578
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Maybe. But if compliance is dropping in any sort of meaningful way, it's among people who don't have smartphones.

    Those that do are being remarkably compliant.

    Tony and his mobility data

    544166.jpg


  • #7579
    I regurgitate the news
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭I regurgitate the news


    titan18 wrote: »
    No, but that's an actual large risk in regards covid spread. The others are not imo


    Yeah but what if people actually don't care anymore? Like they care maybe more about their mortgage payments than Covid deaths?


  • #7580
    Real Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Luke O'Neill acting like its Christmas on Prime Time



  • #7581
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,072 ✭✭✭jackboy


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Whats the alternative open up and hospitals in an even worse position than early January? Compliance is waning as it is so Ro unlikely to stay below 1 with current restrictions. Their seems to be no real answers at the moment which is the problem.

    The alternative is to lift the restrictions that have no impact on the virus spread. Instead of being banned, outdoor activities should be encouraged. Click and collect should be allowed obviously. The restrictions should be applied with a bit of cop on.


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  • #7582
    I regurgitate the news
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭I regurgitate the news


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Luke O'Neill acting like its Christmas on Prime Time

    To be fair, he looks like he's done well since this kicked off.

    All the people telling you when you can and can't work have not lost a days pay since this kicked off


  • #7583
    manniot2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    No doubt an opinion poll soon saying 70% support lockdown until May. What a sick country.


  • #7584
    manofwisdom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    Is this a tactic of telling the media that we'll have strict level 5 restrictions in place until May and then next Tuesday win the crowd over by easing restrictions by April? The original plan of level 4 restrictions for March will be forgotten about in that situation..


  • #7585
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭maebee


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    They are losing the people now . I see it all around me , people wont comply until May . They just have had enough

    I agree. We have all "had enough". The problem is the virus hasn't "had enough".
    People not complying just spreads the virus. End of.

    We all want this nightmare to end. We have to comply. I'm sure that no government in the world wants to impose these horrendous restrictions on its peoples but they have no choice, imo.


  • #7586
    I regurgitate the news
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭I regurgitate the news


    manniot2 wrote: »
    No doubt an opinion poll soon saying 70% support lockdown until May. What a sick country.

    The majority will be affected a lot more by the financial consequences when we move into a worse depression than The Great Depression of the 1930s than they ever would have been by a virus


  • #7587
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    At this point it’s surely worth just dealing with the fine.

    9 more weeks, This isn’t workable

    If you're visiting family, you just have to say support bubble.

    If your just going for a walk or a hike somewhere, and you are unlucky enough to get stopped and want to avoid the fine, just turn around and go home and try a different way or place the next day.

    Or just say you are heading to a support bubble again and have an address in the
    direction where you are headed.


  • #7588
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    spookwoman wrote: »
    You've asked in in the past for icu admissions, discharges, deaths etc.

    goes back to dec 1st. Deaths per month run into other months so overall total is at top, same with other totals.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uxf1qxEMa0Hl5iQOrqvj6nTCOXp919Ysht0tkKCkiSc/edit?usp=sharing

    wow, thanks

    I may have a couple of questions though


  • #7589
    peasant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    A friend of mine posted a quote on his feed today. I think it is honest and apt.
    'We are not all in this together, we are in the same storm together that's all. Some have yachts, some have kayaks others are drowning'.

    I consider myself lucky my job is the same now as it was 1 year ago, two years ago and will be the same two years from now. The same cannot be said for 1000's of my fellow citizens and they have my sympathy.

    Honestly, I think for this to work we need to try a different approach.

    The truth seems to be that we really need lockdown to continue until everybody is vaccinated and until it is sure that the vaccination actually works with all the variants that are emerging.

    So we're in this for the long haul, like it or not.

    I'm sure some creative solutions could be found to extend the bubble system to keep us mentally semi-sane and for us to buy some knickers by click and collect or whatever, if we must.

    What's not so easily solved is the problem of those drowning financially.
    I'm afraid we might have to go a bit "communist" for that one and go above and beyond just sympathy

    To stick with the quote from above...
    I'm one of those who has a kayak, I'll get through this.
    I'm not going on holidays, I'm not eating out, I don't need new fashionable clothes...I would actually be prepared to put some money that I'm not spending there into a covid-together fund for those that have lost their jobs due to this.
    I'm sure plenty of the "kayakers" would do the same.

    But, to be fair I'd only agree to this if those in the yachts do the same. Big corporations will have to pay a together tax, big property owners will have to cut rents or forgo them altogether for those that can't afford them due to covid. ETC...you can think of more, I'm sure

    Get the yachting set on board (see what I did there?) and I'll happily paddle along...


  • #7590
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,057 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    I regurgitate the news wrote: »
    Yeah but what if people actually don't care anymore? Like they care maybe more about their mortgage payments than Covid deaths?

    I'd personally disagree with reopening hospitality ATM. I think sub 150ish cases on a 5 day average and we can look at reopening outdoor hospitality.

    I'd want hairdressers, gyms, non essential retail and the 5k travel restriction to go to county wide when we're sub averaging 500 cases, and maybe inter county travel after 300 cases.

    To me that would be a good balance between reopening and preventing covid spread.


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  • #7591
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Interview with MM in the Mirror this evening

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/nine-more-weeks-severe-lockdown-23526450

    From the article
    The Taoiseach would not be drawn on when personal services such as when hairdressers would reopen but indicated that the industry could possibly be closed for an extended period after April.

    He said: “We’ve got to take it in phases, we can not project the full year out, it would be dishonest to try and do that with Covid-19.

    “That said, we understand where personal services come in as a sector and that’s something we’d like to be looking at some stage but we do want to get vaccinations done.

    “So I think we’ll be looking at all that sometime towards the end of the second quarter, if not before it.”

    When put to him that would be the end of June, he added: “No, I’m not going to put that date. Ronan Glynn (Deputy Chief Medical Officer) and ourselves discussed beyond April you can’t really predict.”


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