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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • #2582
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Speaking of Cruz I'm seeing some outrage in the Twitter machine about him hopping a flight to Cancun while regular Texans are freezing without power still.

    Let them eat frozen cake.


  • #2583
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,890 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    I think the reason people like to think there must be something is because it is more conforming to think that he is doing this under duress that admit that this is simply the type of man he is.

    I think the same level of thinking is used for Melania. She must be under duress, imprisoned in a gilded cage, forced to stay with Trump out of duty for her son, and the country.

    But there is no evidence that any of that is true. Melania seems more than happy to be where she is, more than happy to continue to offer support and seems happy with the choices she has made.

    People are sometimes just complete d1c3s. Awful, amoral people that simply don't care about anyone but themselves.

    She knows she only has a few more years (maybe less) of him around and then she is set for life.


  • #2584
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    She knows she only has a few more years (maybe less) of him around and then she is set for life.

    She has been with him for what, 20 years? She is set for life regardless.

    But even that tells you all you need to know. SHe is quite happy to stand with Trump because she will be better off. No different than Graham really.


  • #2585
    joseywhales
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    This is the joe biden thread right? Graham, cruz, melania, Trump, the republicans are really living in your heads rent free. I'm seeing very little on joe biden.


  • #2586
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,258 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    joseywhales wrote: »
    This is the joe biden thread right? Graham, cruz, melania, Trump, the republicans are really living in your heads rent free. I'm seeing very little on joe biden.

    The floor is yours.....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • #2587
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,718 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    joseywhales wrote: »
    This is the joe biden thread right? Graham, cruz, melania, Trump, the republicans are really living in your heads rent free. I'm seeing very little on joe biden.

    Because your right, there’s very little on Joe Biden.


  • #2588
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,870 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    joseywhales wrote:
    This is the joe biden thread right? Graham, cruz, melania, Trump, the republicans are really living in your heads rent free. I'm seeing very little on joe biden.
    Well said, there's a thread for Trump.


  • #2589
    joseywhales
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    everlast75 wrote: »
    The floor is yours.....

    I'm just tired of the gossip politics. I suppose we could talk about the differences in policies on student loan forgiveness but it's pretty boring. I don't see biden being swayed by schumer, warren. It's one of those things that makes you look good when arguing from the sidelines for those too but biden would actually have to do it.


  • #2590
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    You Trump supporters are hilarious. You actively defended or simply ignored the egregious behaviour of Trump while in office, but are suddenly very very keen for scrutiny. Comical behaviour!

    Also why are you saying Biden is "your guy"? You see, unlike Trump supporters, most of us on here are balanced and aren't completely absorbed in a cult of personality. Very few, if any, posters on here see Biden as "their guy" in the same way Trump supporters idolised Trump. Your projection here is fooling nobody.

    Trump is brought up again in a Biden thread how much longer will that flute sing a tune.

    Balanced you say? Do me a favour.

    You all have hundreds if not thousand of posts scrutinising trump on the trump threads for over 4 years.

    I can assure you I will be doing the same here.

    Would you like to comment on why Joe you think Joe Biden made a half a billion people mistake on his retired v working people in China?

    Is it that he knows nothing of the economy of China?

    Or he does but is lying is trying to play them down as a threat to usa?

    Or is it trumps fault?


  • #2591
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Trump is brought up again in a Biden thread how much longer will that flute sing a tune.

    Balanced you say? Do me a favour.

    You all have hundreds if not thousand of posts scrutinising trump on the trump threads for over 4 years.

    I can assure you I will be doing the same here.

    Would you like to comment on why Joe you think Joe Biden made a half a billion people mistake on his retired v working people in China?

    Is it that he knows nothing of the economy of China?

    Or he does but is lying is trying to play them down as a threat to usa?

    Or is it trumps fault?
    extra gravy wrote: »
    Can you link to your posts where you scrutinised and/or criticised Trump? I don't remember this kind of eagerness for scrutiny from you then.

    You're avoiding questions again


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  • #2592
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,514 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Trump is brought up again in a Biden thread how much longer will that flute sing a tune.

    Balanced you say? Do me a favour.

    You all have hundreds if not thousand of posts scrutinising trump on the trump threads for over 4 years.

    I can assure you I will be doing the same here.

    Would you like to comment on why Joe you think Joe Biden made a half a billion people mistake on his retired v working people in China?

    Is it that he knows nothing of the economy of China?

    Or he does but is lying is trying to play them down as a threat to usa?

    Or is it trumps fault?

    He made a mistake and the fact check corrected it. And it was a statistical mistake at that. If this is the stuff you are going to be getting up in arms over, it's going to be absolutely hilarious to watch.

    And you will continually be called out for your seemingly new found interest in scrutiny, when you didn't give a hoot about it prior to January 20th.


  • #2593
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    He made a mistake and the fact check corrected it. And it was a statistical mistake at that. If this is the stuff you are going to be getting up in arms over, it's going to be absolutely hilarious to watch.

    And you will continually be called out for your seemingly new found interest in scrutiny, when you didn't give a hoot about it prior to January 20th.

    Thankyou for your opinion.

    Yes if the president doesn't know very much about the fiercest rival to the usa and its economy and where the majority of the unauthorised immigrants coming into the country he is president of are coming from.

    Then yes I agree it will be hilarious moving forward.


  • #2594
    extra gravy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,321 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Thankyou for your opinion.

    Yes if the president doesn't know very much about the fiercest rival to the usa and its economy and where the majority of the unauthorised immigrants coming into the country he is president of are coming from.

    Then yes I agree it will be hilarious moving forward.

    Trump's lack of knowledge on domestic and foreign affairs didn't bother you so why would you care about that now? Your posts are hypocritical and as a result, are not taken seriously.


  • #2595
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,496 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    What do his mistakes mean?
    They mean he has an alarmingly low level of knowledge on the Chinese economy for a US president.

    Yes I am aware the retirement age is younger in China life expectancy is also relatively young at 76.62 in 2020.

    I find it hard to see how he would make that mistake on China when there is over 500million people in the difference as you can see below.

    There were 253.88 million people who are 60 or older on the Chinese mainland in 2019, accounting for 18.1 percent of the country's population, according to data from the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS).8 Dec 2020

    In 2019, the workforce in China amounted to around 774.7 million people

    A rather large descripency as you can see and a poor mistake by a us president.

    It's great to see this (genuinely) as you've started looking up information, and being able to look at policy.

    The "gaffe" is just a gaffe, it's going to happen in every interview, it happens to everyone who's public speaking (including Bezos and Musk and Gates), what matters is what is the policy coming out of this, and what changes are going to be made.

    Continuing on with the "gotcha" style posting will get tired quickly as it really means nothing, what matters is the boring stuff, the policies being implemented, why they're being implemented. Joe Biden sits well to the right politically of most Irish people, so expect people to post around that (why not a $10,000 cheque, AOC is the future, Sanders should be president), but it's good to see actual debate.

    Will Joe get more numbers wrong? Yes, lots, every politician does. Will Joe double down on the wrong numbers as part of his policy, or get bored of them and wander off and stop responding, no, he's a competent politician who has been proving most of his doubters wrong, and seems to be dragging America through a proper response to the pandemic and reacted well to the Texas freeze (even if that is 99.99% the fault of the GOP lawmakers there). You can't ask more than that at the moment.


  • #2596
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Also a key thing about being president is that they don't necessarily know about every single thing in detail but they do follow the advice of advice of experts and have the right team around them. So an error around those retired or whatever simply isn't a big deal, it's also likely something he's being briefed by others on.


  • #2597
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Joe was something else last night. The ‘cultural’ differences' statement had to be one of the worst statements made by a US president in decades.
    Everybody knows I like kids better than people. - Joe Biden


  • #2598
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    astrofool wrote: »
    It's great to see this (genuinely) as you've started looking up information, and being able to look at policy.

    The "gaffe" is just a gaffe, it's going to happen in every interview, it happens to everyone who's public speaking (including Bezos and Musk and Gates), what matters is what is the policy coming out of this, and what changes are going to be made.

    Continuing on with the "gotcha" style posting will get tired quickly as it really means nothing, what matters is the boring stuff, the policies being implemented, why they're being implemented. Joe Biden sits well to the right politically of most Irish people, so expect people to post around that (why not a $10,000 cheque, AOC is the future, Sanders should be president), but it's good to see actual debate.

    Will Joe get more numbers wrong? Yes, lots, every politician does. Will Joe double down on the wrong numbers as part of his policy, or get bored of them and wander off and stop responding, no, he's a competent politician who has been proving most of his doubters wrong, and seems to be dragging America through a proper response to the pandemic and reacted well to the Texas freeze (even if that is 99.99% the fault of the GOP lawmakers there). You can't ask more than that at the moment.

    Thankyou i appreciated this post more than you know and a nice change from the me v you bickering.


  • #2599
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    Joe was something else last night. The ‘cultural’ differences' statement had to be one of the worst statements made by a US president in decades.

    The worst statements from a US president in decades... The one where he specifes that China will face consequences from the international community if they don't fall in line? It's pretty telling that the clip that's being shared around omits his entire statement on China.


  • #2600
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Thankyou for your opinion.

    Yes if the president doesn't know very much about the fiercest rival to the usa and its economy and where the majority of the unauthorised immigrants coming into the country he is president of are coming from.

    Then yes I agree it will be hilarious moving forward.

    I assune your were similarly vocal when Trump suggested injecting disinfectant to cure coronavirus, that the death rate was much higher than in the US and failed to name the correct winner of an American Presidential Election?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #2601
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,514 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    Joe was something else last night. The ‘cultural’ differences' statement had to be one of the worst statements made by a US president in decades.

    Stuff like this is why Trump supporters just cannot be taken seriously.


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  • #2602
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    Joe was something else last night. The ‘cultural’ differences' statement had to be one of the worst statements made by a US president in decades.

    Only in your twisted mind.


  • #2603
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,890 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Stuff like this is why Trump supporters just cannot be taken seriously.

    Must have ran out of memes to post in the other thread.

    Great laugh seeing the Trumpeteers having a hiss fit over the tiniest things just so they can get a dig in at Biden.

    The same posters who would either defend everything Trump said/did or (even worse) would run away from threads when asked about things got difficult only to reappear a day or two later when the conversation had moved on :pac:


  • #2604
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Must have ran out of memes to post in the other thread.

    Great laugh seeing the Trumpeteers having a hiss fit over the tiniest things just so they can get a dig in at Biden.

    The same posters who would either defend everything Trump said/did or (even worse) would run away from threads when asked about things got difficult only to reappear a day or two later when the conversation had moved on :pac:

    I’m pretty sure someone asked about injecting disinfectant on live television recently?
    And it was on every major media outlet worldwide.

    First I’ve heard about the Biden comment and it was from yesterday.
    And it’s not on any news channel?


  • #2605
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    Joe was something else last night. The ‘cultural’ differences' statement had to be one of the worst statements made by a US president in decades.

    Worse than a POTUS picking a foreign politicians word over his own security services evidence?

    Worse than a POTUS saying people dying from Covid 'it is what it is'?

    Worse than a POTUS saying that he loves people that were attacking the Capital?


  • #2606
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,142 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    Joe was something else last night. The ‘cultural’ differences' statement had to be one of the worst statements made by a US president in decades.

    From the transcript of the townhall, can you please post the exact statement you think qualifies it as the worst statements made by a president in decades.

    Biden Town Hall Transcript


  • #2607
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Given that both senators Ted Cruz (who appears to have fecked off to Cancun while his constituents freeze) and Cornyn voted against federal aid for new York after Hurricane Sandy, and the people of Texas still happily voted them back in, is it fair to assume that Texans don't want federal help right now and should just be left to fend for themselves?


  • #2608
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Carfacemandog wrote: »
    Given that both senators Ted Cruz (who appears to have fecked off to Cancun while his constituents freeze) and Cornyn voted against federal aid for new York after Hurricane Sandy, and the people of Texas still happily voted them back in, is it fair to assume that Texans don't want federal help right now and should just be left to fend for themselves?

    Well - Rick Perry seems to think so..
    “Texans would be without electricity for longer than three days to keep the federal government out of their business,” Perry is quoted as saying. “Try not to let whatever the crisis of the day is take your eye off of having a resilient grid that keeps America safe personally, economically, and strategically.”

    Quite what potentially freezing to death has to do with "having a resilient grid that keeps America safe personally, economically, and strategically.” or how de-regulation and a lack of federal oversight helps there either is unclear to me.

    And this from the man that was responsible for Federal Energy policy in the Trump administration.


  • #2609
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,142 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Well - Rick Perry seems to think so..



    Quite what potentially freezing to death has to do with "having a resilient grid that keeps America safe personally, economically, and strategically.” or how de-regulation and a lack of federal oversight helps there either is unclear to me.

    And this from the man that was responsible for Federal Energy policy in the Trump administration.

    They're like Farage going to work as an MEP aren't they.

    They are not going to help, they are going to inhibit.


  • #2610
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Carfacemandog wrote: »
    Given that both senators Ted Cruz (who appears to have fecked off to Cancun while his constituents freeze) and Cornyn voted against federal aid for new York after Hurricane Sandy, and the people of Texas still happily voted them back in, is it fair to assume that Texans don't want federal help right now and should just be left to fend for themselves?

    And while Cruz has fecked off, Beto O'Rourke is organising wellness checks for seniors

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/967589/beto-orourke-organizing-wellness-checks-seniors-during-texas-blackouts-ted-cruz-cancun


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  • #2611
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    duploelabs wrote: »
    And while Cruz has fecked off, Beto O'Rourke is organising wellness checks for seniors

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/967589/beto-orourke-organizing-wellness-checks-seniors-during-texas-blackouts-ted-cruz-cancun

    And many of those seniors next tiem up will March right ahead and again vote for Cruz, solely because of the letter in brackets next to his name. Cruz might well be the single biggest example of that dedication to a letter in the alphabet in the whole senate.


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