Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

12gauge dave

Water John wrote: »

When you start by referencing emergency generators in Texas, you've lost any rational argument.

Have you anything to say about the rest of the post?

Or is it a case of we slate what we don't like in this forum.

The floor is yours to counter argue my post.

I'm willing to listen and take any counter argument on board that you present.

That is what boards is for no?

12gauge dave

12gauge dave wrote: »

If you would like to explain why it's such a bad argument and counter with some points of your own and defend the Paris climate agreement
i would be happy to read them?

Oh I would be glad to!

Once you go back and address those dozens of similar messages over the past few months from other people that you ignored I will gladly pay you the same favour. You can start here if you like.

12gauge dave

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh I would be glad to!

Once you go back and address those dozens of similar messages over the past few months from other people that you ignored I will gladly pay you the same favour. You can start here if you like.

Yet your normally so quick to pick my posts apart and remind me of how dimwitted and stupid I am.

If you don't want to counter argue that's fine.

But if that's the case then don't just slate it and brush it off because you don't like me and my political beliefs.

Timberrrrrrrr

12gauge dave wrote: »

Yet your normally so quick to pick my posts apart and remind me of how dimwitted and stupid I am.

If you don't want to counter argue that's fine.

But if that's the case then don't just slate it and brush it off because you don't like me and my political beliefs.

Why not? That's exactly what you do every time, someone refutes your argument and you just ignore it and brush it off, someone asks you a question and you ignore it and brush it off. If you don't like being ignored and having your comments/questions ignored/brushed off then maybe lead by example, maybe answer some questions and debate in good faith.

Munstersrebel

stefanovich wrote: »

Will Biden’s popularity be damaged now that it is proved that the democrats doctored evidence in the trump impeachment trial?

Dude they showed CCTV and publicly available video images from news crews... faked? I think you are the head of QAnon Ireland

12gauge dave

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Why not? That's exactly what you do every time, someone refutes your argument and you just ignore it and brush it off, someone asks you a question and you ignore it and brush it off. If you don't like being ignored and having your comments/questions ignored/brushed off then maybe lead by example, maybe answer some questions and debate in good faith.

Yet your all so quick to reply when I post a dodgy link or a dodgy twitter post and belittle me.

Munstersrebel

Leroy42 wrote: »

So why did Trump gave such a strop about the Paris accord?

Because understanding why it was important required more than the 10-second attention span he has

12gauge dave

12gauge dave wrote: »

Yet your normally so quick to pick my posts apart and remind me of how dimwitted and stupid I am.

If you don't want to counter argue that's fine.

But if that's the case then don't just slate it and brush it off because you don't like me and my political beliefs.

I will slate your request. You have asked me to reply to six articles, which will take a significant amount of my time, and for what purpose?

Every time I have taken my personal time to reply to you in great detail, it has been for no benefit. You have been shown to be wrong time and time again, and yet it clearly has had not had the slightest effect on your beliefs. Not once has it made you stop and consider that you may be on the wrong side of history. Not once have you gone "huh, I've been wrong 23 times in a row now, maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about? Maybe the other guys are right, or maybe at least I should remain impartial?"

So tell me, what is the benefit of me or someone else taking the time to explain to you why you are wrong for the 24th time in a row? Who would that response be for exactly? Certainly not for you, as you'll come back a day or two later with your 25th "bombshell" and act like the previous 24 "bombshells" were not debunked with flying colours.

Timberrrrrrrr

12gauge dave wrote: »

Yet your all so quick to reply when I post a dodgy link or a dodgy twitter post and belittle me.

Post one or two and that's fine, but you post them.every single day, it get boring refuting them, so why should anyone take time on a Friday night to trawl through all.that and refute it when it will just do no good, you will be back later or tomorrow doing exactly the same thing!

12gauge dave

You guys are good ill give ye that your not fooling me though.

I'll be here as long as the good mods allow.

Put me on ignore list if you want but I'll be here.

Cody montana

12gauge dave wrote: »

Yet your all so quick to reply when I post a dodgy link or a dodgy twitter post and belittle me.

Welcome to the internet.
Maybe don’t post dodgy links?
Fact-check what you post.

Timberrrrrrrr

12gauge dave wrote: »

You guys are good ill give ye that your not fooling me though.

I'll be here as long as the good mods allow.

Put me on ignore list if you want but I'll be here.

You're welcome to post whatever and whenever you want, just don't get upset when you're sometimes ridiculous posts get torn apart and you are shown to be wrong time and time again.

12gauge dave

Deleted User wrote: »

Awww I feel bad that you copy pasted so much and yet still made such a terrible argument.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You're welcome to post whatever and whenever you want, just don't get upset when you're sometimes ridiculous posts get torn apart and you are shown to be wrong time and time again.

Do me a favour:pac:

There's a whole gang of ye all well versed in politics over many years and ye love picking my posts apart.

Theres only one dimwitted stupid Trump supporter in here I'm sure ye can can come up with a counter argument over the weekend between ye all.
Ye seem to be on boards alot of the time I have seen.

I look forward to your counter argument to my earlier post.

ohnonotgmail

12gauge dave wrote: »

Do me a favour:pac:

There's a whole gang of ye all well versed in politics over many years and ye love picking my posts apart.

Theres only one dimwitted stupid Trump supporter in here I'm sure ye can can come up with a counter argument over the weekend between ye all.
Ye seem to be on boards alot of the time I have seen.

I look forward to your counter argument to my earlier post.

But why? To what end? you will just be back tomorrow or the day after with more nonsense you don't understand or that is just plain wrong.

Tell me how

12gauge dave wrote: »

Do me a favour:pac:

There's a whole gang of ye all well versed in politics over many years and ye love picking my posts apart.

Theres only one dimwitted stupid Trump supporter in here I'm sure ye can can come up with a counter argument over the weekend between ye all.
Ye seem to be on boards alot of the time I have seen.

I look forward to your counter argument to my earlier post.

I'm happy enough my response to yours countered it sufficiently.

extra gravy

12gauge dave wrote: »

Do me a favour:pac:

There's a whole gang of ye all well versed in politics over many years and ye love picking my posts apart.

Theres only one dimwitted stupid Trump supporter in here I'm sure ye can can come up with a counter argument over the weekend between ye all.
Ye seem to be on boards alot of the time I have seen.

I look forward to your counter argument to my earlier post.

It's not even your post or argument though, it's a copy and paste job. It's one thing citing sources to back up your opinion but if you can't formulate your own opinions independently then why would you expect anyone else to go to the trouble of responding in their own words?

12gauge dave

Tell me how wrote: »

I'm happy enough my response to yours countered it sufficiently.

While I disagree I thankyou for your response and have taken your advice on learning more about passing legislation on board and will try and learn more on the matter.

Tell me how

12gauge dave wrote: »

While I disagree I thankyou for your response and have taken your advice on learning more about passing legislation on board and will try and learn more on the matter.

What do you disagree with?

y0ssar1an22

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i'll concede the point and say thats its a minor thing - just vaccinate people is the end goal.

but i will say, he needs to be more clear with his words. ask any bystander what the following means:

we came into office, there (were) only 50 million doses that were available.

there was nothing in the refrigerator, figuratively and literally speaking, and there were 10 million doses a day that were available.

when you and I talked last, we talked about — it’s one thing to have the clap, which we didn’t have when we came into office, but a vaccinator — how do you get the vaccine into someone’s arm? So you need the paraphernalia. You need the needle, and you need mechanisms to be able to get it in. You have to have people who can inject it into people’s arms."


i changed that. now reading that, does it read like we had the clap or not? it sounds/reads to me like we didnt have the clap.

Deleted User wrote: »

No he doesn't, not even a little bit. It makes perfect sense what he is saying in context.

What actually has to happen is people need to stop taking things out of context to try and make a "gotcha!" moment. God forbid someone asks Biden "are the vaccines going out to 18-35 year olds yet?" and he responds "no the vaccines aren't going out yet" and you or someone similar posts "did you hear that Biden said that vaccines haven't even gone out yet?! he's completely lost it!" The man is allowed to talk casually.

And I can tell from your example above that you did not listen to the town hall Q&A but have only read this article about it. Perhaps have a listen of it rather just reading what was said and see, based on the flow of the discussion, if you still think he needs to be more careful. (Hint: he doesn't.)

sorry to bring this up after todays developments. the part you quoted from me is in bold.

a Washington post fact checker....

https://twitter.com/glennkesslerwp/status/1361879261691396104

a verbal stumble. but apparently he doesnt need to be more clear with his words?

eagle eye

So it looks like Neera Tanden won't get nominated by the Senate.
Joe Manchin definitely voting against her and Bernie Sanders might too.
I'm surprised they haven't pulled her yet

12gauge dave

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

sorry to bring this up after todays developments. the part you quoted from me is in bold.

a Washington post fact checker....

https://twitter.com/glennkesslerwp/status/1361879261691396104

a verbal stumble. but apparently he doesnt need to be more clear with his words?

He definitely says "which we didn't have when we came into office".

I deserve an apology from alot of people in here If that's the case.

y0ssar1an22

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

sorry to bring this up after todays developments. the part you quoted from me is in bold.

a Washington post fact checker....

https://twitter.com/glennkesslerwp/status/1361879261691396104

a verbal stumble. but apparently he doesnt need to be more clear with his words?

What is literally the point of this discussion? Yes, people who are clear with their words can also make verbal stumbles, if this can even be considered one. The man has been giving speeches for decades and you are focusing on the fact that he said vaccines instead of vaccine reserves as if you've made some sort of breakthrough about his character or mental state or something.

If you want to claim that he is not clear with his words, pick out someone who believe is clear with their words and compare their speeches to Biden's over their respective political careers and see who on average makes more "verbal stumbles" per speech. Pointing to one minor stumble, if it even is one, is just completely meaningless. The majority of politicians have made at least one bigger stumble during a casual Q&A session.

12gauge dave

12gauge dave wrote: »

He definitely says "which we didn't have when we came into office".

I deserve an apology from alot of people in here If that's the case.

And you have further emphasised why no one should bother spending their time replying to you. You seem to be completely incapable of independent thinking.

12gauge dave

Deleted User wrote: »

And you have further emphasised why no one should bother spending their time replying to you. You seem to be completely incapable of independent thinking.

You've shown your colours tonight but it's okay I don't want an apology.

y0ssar1an22

eagle eye wrote: »

So it looks like Neera Tanden won't get nominated by the Senate.
Joe Manchin definitely voting against her and Bernie Sanders might too.
I'm surprised they haven't pulled her yet

she should have never been nominated.

more senators need to be like joe manchin, and john mccain. partisan fine, but their ultimate allegiance is to america.

as an aside, i see on wiki that bernie is down as an independent. when did that happen?

12gauge dave

12gauge dave wrote: »

You've shown your colours tonight but it's okay I don't want an apology.

You (incorrectly) said you wanted an apology from many people literally in your very last post. This conversation is cringe inducing.

y0ssar1an22

Deleted User wrote: »

What is literally the point of this discussion? Yes, people who are clear with their words can also make verbal stumbles, if this can even be considered one. The man has been giving speeches for decades and you are focusing on the fact that he said vaccines instead of vaccine reserves as if you've made some sort of breakthrough about his character or mental state or something.

If you want to claim that he is not clear with his words, pick out someone who believe is clear with their words and compare their speeches to Biden's over their respective political careers and see who on average makes more "verbal stumbles" per speech. Pointing to one minor stumble, if it even is one, is just completely meaningless. The majority of politicians have made at least one bigger stumble during a casual Q&A session.

we'll leave it there so. a tall tale or a cognitive stumble, its largely irrelevant. once people get their shots, its happy days.

now, in relation to iran...i know f all. whats going on there?

12gauge dave

Deleted User wrote: »

You (incorrectly) said you wanted an apology from many people literally in your very last post. This conversation is cringe inducing.

He clearly says in video

Its one thing to have the vaccine.

Which we didn't have when we came into office.

Does he say that in the video or not?


Kayleigh McEnany (@kayleighmcenany) Tweeted:
Biden says there was no vaccine when he came into office.

That is abjectly FALSE. President Trump brought about the fastest vaccine for a novel pathogen in history.

How does Joe get away with this? https://t.co/OcFeVbQ3At https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany/status/1361868170894704643?s=20

The Floyd p

Tanden was a stupid nominee, completely out of her depth. Hopefully she doesn't end up squeaking through.

Overall the Biden administration has been desperate for doing anything meaningful, like not doing away ICE's policies despite promising reform, clearing student debt, and obviously the debacle with the relief cheques.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss and all that...

12gauge dave

12gauge dave wrote: »

He clearly says in video

Its one thing to have the vaccine.

Which we didn't have when we came into office.

Does he say that in the video or not?


Kayleigh McEnany (@kayleighmcenany) Tweeted:
Biden says there was no vaccine when he came into office.

That is abjectly FALSE. President Trump brought about the fastest vaccine for a novel pathogen in history.

How does Joe get away with this? https://t.co/OcFeVbQ3At https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany/status/1361868170894704643?s=20

Wow, you must literally not even read our responses. That's the only thing I can think of. There's no way you could possibly filter out all of the responses that have already been made to that question from your head.