Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

Tea drinker · 17-02-2021 04:20AM

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

Cool imaginary stories bro.:cool:

ha ha ha if it doesn't fit your narrative it's fake news. You seem to have no sympathy for people you haven't been told to have sympathy for

titan18 · 17-02-2021 09:04AM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Varadkar spoofing on Prime Time

We need people to spend savings

On what Leo?

You're keeping everything shut down for months on end

I'll spend my savings when there are some affordable houses to buy. Not buying stuff for the sake of it even when shops reopen.

FintanMcluskey · 17-02-2021 09:12AM

titan18 wrote: »

I'll spend my savings when there are some affordable houses to buy. Not buying stuff for the sake of it even when shops reopen.

The fact Ireland is the only country across the globe that decided construction was too dangerous to open in 2021 means you will be a while waiting for an affordable house.

Record low numbers of houses available for sale in January

8000 less homes built this year

titan18 · 17-02-2021 09:20AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The fact Ireland is the only country across the globe that decided construction was too dangerous to open in 2021 means you will be a while waiting for an affordable house.

Record low numbers of houses available for sale in January

8000 less homes built this year

Pretty much, hence I won't be spending my savings, other than maybe spending a slight bit of it on travelling.

MerlinSouthDub · 17-02-2021 10:40AM

aziz wrote: »

Isn’t the drop in us cases due to a change in how the pcr test is done

What change are you referring to? There is nothing to suggest that the PCR testing approach has changed in Ireland.

SheepsClothing · 17-02-2021 10:48AM

In the US, the virus spread to before unseen levels after the Thanksgiving, Christmas combo in November and December. It's likely just returning to a base level now.

timsey tiger · 17-02-2021 11:02AM

SheepsClothing wrote: »

In the US, the virus spread to before unseen levels after the Thanksgiving, Christmas combo in November and December. It's likely just returning to a base level now.

Seems reasonable

Gruffalux · 17-02-2021 11:06AM

Parachutes wrote: »

5 days turns into 2 weeks, 2 weeks into 2 months. We all know how it goes.

Just to follow up on this and reassure you and those who believed you, Melbourne and Auckland have lifted their short sharp circuit-breaker lockdowns as promised. Those crazy Antipodeans! Don't they know a dose of Covid makes you stronger?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0217/1197584-world-covid-19/

is_that_so · 17-02-2021 11:11AM

Gruffalux wrote: »

Just to follow up on this and reassure you and those who believed you, Melbourne and Auckland have lifted their short sharp circuit-breaker lockdowns as promised. Those crazy Antipodeans! Don't they know a dose of Covid makes you stronger?
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0217/1197584-world-covid-19/

A strategy which worked for an isolated land mass of 25 million people with almost no COVID cases. Not at all comparable to a region with nearly 10% of the world's population and 44 different countries.

Stateofyou · 17-02-2021 11:29AM

is_that_so wrote: »

A strategy which worked for an isolated land mass of 25 million people with almost no COVID cases. Not at all comparable to a region with nearly 10% of the world's population and 44 different countries.

Ireland isn't a region with nearly 10% of the world's population. Not sure what your point of comparing here is.

Gruffalux · 17-02-2021 11:34AM

is_that_so wrote: »

A strategy which worked for an isolated land mass of 25 million people with almost no COVID cases. Not at all comparable to a region with nearly 10% of the world's population and 44 different countries.

Can lots of people swim to Ireland? And about concentration of people Australia's cities are far more densely populated than ours. 1500 per sq km in Dublin, 22,000 per sq km in Melbourne.
I don't care what Europe does personally. That's up to them although Angela Merkel certainly agrees with the general gist of my opinion. Probably her being a scientist helps.

And the reason they have almost no covid cases...? :pac: It's like saying the reason that person is not fat is because they have no fat on them

eddie73 · 17-02-2021 11:35AM

We in Ireland can only aspire to these sort of levels.

We share a border with a uk jurisdiction.

17-02-2021 11:36AM

is_that_so wrote: »

A strategy which worked for an isolated land mass of 25 million people with almost no COVID cases. Not at all comparable to a region with nearly 10% of the world's population and 44 different countries.

Nz and oz have among highest % of their population living in an urban setting per capita in the world

The eu and irelands stragedy about this virus has been a utter shambles from day 1,

SheepsClothing · 17-02-2021 11:39AM

I think we should try to keep levels as low as possible. Mandatory quarantine and proper contact tracing would be a good start in achieving this.

Rebelbrowser · 17-02-2021 11:55AM

Ficheall wrote: »

Recommendations for where to buy from welcome - I need a new one and I generally get mine from Curry's (there's a store nearby and I like popping in to see the laptops in the flesh), but their customer service is absolutely abysmal and trying to return an item online is being made a herculean task.. wouldn't risk getting even a toaster from them now.

Just bought one from soundstore.ie . All very painless. Munster based shops but all Island online delivery etc

is_that_so · 17-02-2021 11:59AM

Stateofyou wrote: »

Ireland isn't a region with nearly 10% of the world's population. Not sure what your point of comparing here is.

Having 700m people on our doorstep is the point but you knew that.

Plumbthedepths · 17-02-2021 12:00PM

BlowHard wrote: »

Adapt and survive

Health is more important.

It may come as a shock but good health and a functioning economy are intertwined.

is_that_so · 17-02-2021 12:03PM

Gruffalux wrote: »

Can lots of people swim to Ireland? And about concentration of people Australia's cities are far more densely populated than ours. 1500 per sq km in Dublin, 22,000 per sq km in Melbourne.
I don't care what Europe does personally. That's up to them although Angela Merkel certainly agrees with the general gist of my opinion. Probably her being a scientist helps.

And the reason they have almost no covid cases...? :pac: It's like saying the reason that person is not fat is because they have no fat on them

And yet we have to care. You really can't ignore inconvenient facts because they don't suit your view of this.

is_that_so · 17-02-2021 12:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Nz and oz have among highest % of their population living in an urban setting per capita in the world

The eu and irelands strategy about this virus has been a utter shambles from day 1,

Why of course it has. Nothing they do is ever right.

mandrake04 · 17-02-2021 12:07PM

Gruffalux wrote: »

Just to follow up on this and reassure you and those who believed you, Melbourne and Auckland have lifted their short sharp circuit-breaker lockdowns as promised. Those crazy Antipodeans! Don't they know a dose of Covid makes you stronger?
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0217/1197584-world-covid-19/

Also they have a decent enough Vaccine plan.

Health Minister Greg Hunt has explained some specifics of the roll-out plan, and which vaccine will be used when.

Late-February 2021: Pfizer vaccine (80,000 doses per week available)

Early March 2021: AstraZeneca produced internationally (80,000 doses per week available)

Late March 2021: AstraZeneca produced domestically (1 million doses a week available)

TonyMaloney · 17-02-2021 12:09PM

I have a nagging feeling we're sort of stumbling into zero-covid.

As we get more and more of the population vaccinated, the pressure will grow on the government to protect the hard work we've done.
If we have or are nearing immunity to most or all known strains, then the idea of some new variant coming in and undoing everything will be too much to bare.
At that point ZC makes sense not just from a public health point of view, but also an economic one. The cost and risk of going back to the beginning will be too high.

And I can see similar happening in most Western nations

17-02-2021 12:11PM

BlowHard wrote: »

Adapt and survive

Health is more important.

Fanaticism is so passé.

hynesie08 wrote: »

Also nothing stopping them setting up a website and doing deliveries. plenty of businesses thrived doing just that.

The glib sneering by lockdown people about the destruction of Irish business really is appalling.

is_that_so · 17-02-2021 12:15PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I have a nagging feeling we're sort of stumbling into zero-covid.

As we get more and more of the population vaccinated, the pressure will grow on the government to protect the hard work we've done.
If we have or are nearing immunity to most or all known strains, then the idea of some new variant coming in and undoing everything will be too much to bare.
At that point ZC makes sense not just from a public health point of view, but also an economic one. The cost and risk of going back to the beginning will be too high.

And I can see similar happening in most Western nations

Well if vaccines work as expected they should have no need to. Let's not forget the primary aim of vaccines is to eliminate severe cases, hospitalisations and offer the body a level of immunity.

Marty Bird · 17-02-2021 12:17PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I have a nagging feeling we're sort of stumbling into zero-covid.

As we get more and more of the population vaccinated, the pressure will grow on the government to protect the hard work we've done.
If we have or are nearing immunity to most or all known strains, then the idea of some new variant coming in and undoing everything will be too much to bare.
At that point ZC makes sense not just from a public health point of view, but also an economic one. The cost and risk of going back to the beginning will be too high.

And I can see similar happening in most Western nations

Bang them a email Tony make sure those at the top know about those feelings.

Stateofyou · 17-02-2021 12:26PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Having 700m people on our doorstep is the point but you knew that.

A region has nothing to do with "on our doorstep," but you knew that.

Stateofyou · 17-02-2021 12:28PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Well if vaccines work as expected they should have no need to. Let's not forget the primary aim of vaccines is to eliminate severe cases, hospitalisations and offer the body a level of immunity.

The virus can mutate in a manner that escapes high success of vaccines. So the other poster has a valid opinion.

TonyMaloney · 17-02-2021 12:29PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Well if vaccines work as expected they should have no need to. Let's not forget the primary aim of vaccines is to eliminate severe cases, hospitalisations and offer the body a level of immunity.

That's a massive if.
And there's emerging evidence that some vaccines are far less effective than hoped on certain strains.

I mean that's a big part of the reason why they're not letting us off the leash once the most vulnerable are juiced up.
One fear is the hospitals filling up with younger people if we open up at that stage. The other is mutations occurring in the unvaccinated population, and setting us back to square one.

That fear doesn't go away, even at full immunity, if you have open borders

Plumbthedepths · 17-02-2021 12:32PM

b0nk1e wrote: »

Fanaticism is so passé.

The glib sneering by lockdown people about the destruction of Irish business really is appalling.

There was a poster here only a few days ago suggesting only the non productive sectors are closed. Obviously clueless as to what the hospitality sector contributes to state coffers and the employment the sector generates.

is_that_so · 17-02-2021 12:33PM

Stateofyou wrote: »

The virus can mutate in a manner that escapes high success of vaccines. So the other poster has a valid opinion.

No they don't, not yet. They are still effective.

Akabusi · 17-02-2021 12:34PM

Stateofyou wrote: »

The virus can mutate in a manner that escapes high success of vaccines. So the other poster has a valid opinion.

Can it?

Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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