The Olympic Games WILL be going ahead

Chivito550 · 12-02-2021 9:07pm #1

Cathal talking pure sense in a world gone mad with hysteria.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/othersport/arid-40223543.html?type=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Ceepo · 12-02-2021 9:24pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

Cathal talking pure sense in a world gone mad with hysteria.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/othersport/arid-40223543.html?type=amp&__twitter_impression=true

I read the article yesterday and made complete sense. Spot on, on his assessment and lets hope he is right

Nuttzz · 12-02-2021 9:28pm

Public opinion in Japan seems very much against it going ahead

https://apnews.com/article/tokyo-sports-asia-2020-tokyo-olympics-japan-olympic-games-010ed6aa2fe427cf7d36a8549f9d79a7

Chivito550 · 12-02-2021 9:51pm

Nuttzz wrote: »

Public opinion in Japan seems very much against it going ahead

https://apnews.com/article/tokyo-sports-asia-2020-tokyo-olympics-japan-olympic-games-010ed6aa2fe427cf7d36a8549f9d79a7

Guarantee you, another poll taken 2 weeks before the Games in the middle of summer with next to no Covid, you will see 80% in favour of it.

The public don't decide whether the Games go ahead.

ultrapercy · 13-02-2021 12:55am

Chivito550 wrote: »

Cathal talking pure sense in a world gone mad with hysteria.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/othersport/arid-40223543.html?type=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Hysteria? 3 million people have died and its only just started.

Chivito550 · 13-02-2021 1:17am

ultrapercy wrote: »

Hysteria? 3 million people have died and its only just started.

I was referring to hysteria around Olympics going ahead, when other sports events are happening.

But seen as you bring it up, at the time deaths were at 1.2 million, the WHOs best estimate was that 10% of the world's population (approx 760 million) had already had Covid. A death rate of 0.16%.

P. S. 2.38 million have died with Covid, not 3 million.

ultrapercy · 13-02-2021 1:41am

Chivito550 wrote: »

I was referring to hysteria around Olympics going ahead, when other sports events are happening.

But seen as you bring it up, at the time deaths were at 1.2 million, the WHOs best estimate was that 10% of the world's population (approx 760 million) had already had Covid. A death rate of 0.16%.

P. S. 2.38 million have died with Covid, not 3 million.

you're adopting the Stalinist viewpoint that the death of one person is a tragedy, the death of a million people sorry 2.38 million is a statistic? I paraphrased him a little but he's also dead.....and he was a ****.

Chivito550 · 13-02-2021 2:25am

ultrapercy wrote: »

you're adopting the Stalinist viewpoint that the death of one person is a tragedy, the death of a million people sorry 2.38 million is a statistic? I paraphrased him a little but he's also dead.....and he was a ****.

No, I never insinuated anything of the kind. Please do not put words in my mouth and try make me out to be a heartless c?&t. You do not know me!

Pointing out that the death rate of a virus is much less than initially feared (and still assumed by many not willing to do a bit of digging) is not the same as the views of a brutal dictator who had no value on human life, and who was responsible for the deaths of 50 million people, and the suffering of many more.

Utterly shameful comment. What goes through peoples' heads to actually write comments like that.

13-02-2021 2:59am

Can't see it going ahead myself.

KSU · 13-02-2021 10:45am

Australian Open has shown how problematic large scale sporting events are even in countries of low case numbers.

Also I don’t believe Emperors Cup is a good comparison when you factor in international travel (from countries of varying health protocols in place)

I do agree IOC will try push on no matter what as $$$ is the be all and end all for them but I don’t believe it will be as big a factor for Japanese government as we have seen that the financial implications of things getting out of hand again can be just as costly

Chivito550 · 13-02-2021 12:06pm

KSU wrote: »

Australian Open has shown how problematic large scale sporting events are even in countries of low case numbers.

Also I don’t believe Emperors Cup is a good comparison when you factor in international travel (from countries of varying health protocols in place)

I do agree IOC will try push on no matter what as $$$ is the be all and end all for them but I don’t believe it will be as big a factor for Japanese government as we have seen that the financial implications of things getting out of hand again can be just as costly

Oh the Games won't be in any way enjoyable. The restrictions will make it a very unpleasant experience. It will be completely unrecognisable from what we know. But I do see them happening. Sport has found a way to get back up and running. This isn't March 2020. The Olympics will find a way too I suspect.

Was on a media briefing the other day. It's an absolute sh1tshow. Those of us who didn't secure official media accommodation (how were we to know!) and therefore don't have easy access to media bus network and the media restaurants are told we can't take public transport and can't eat in a regular restaurant or buy food in a normal shop. It's quite comical actually. But we are told to "understand". Food is a basic requirement to live on this planet!

Japan haven't started vaccinations yet which is a real puzzler.

ultrapercy · 13-02-2021 12:31pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

No, I never insinuated anything of the kind. Please do not put words in my mouth and try make me out to be a heartless c?&t. You do not know me!

Pointing out that the death rate of a virus is much less than initially feared (and still assumed by many not willing to do a bit of digging) is not the same as the views of a brutal dictator who had no value on human life, and who was responsible for the deaths of 50 million people, and the suffering of many more.

Utterly shameful comment. What goes through peoples' heads to actually write comments like that.

speaking of hysteriaðŸ€£ the lord save us.
This pandemic has exposed the selfishness and imaturity of a section of the community as much as it has highlighted the heroism of front lne workers. Whining about sports and hobbies while millions die is modern society defined. All that matters now is ME and thats the reason we're in the state we're in.

KSU · 13-02-2021 12:40pm

ultrapercy wrote: »

speaking of hysteria&#55356;&#56355; the lord save us.
This pandemic has exposed the selfishness and imaturity of a section of the community as much as it has highlighted the heroism of front lne workers. Whining about sports and hobbies while millions die is modern society defined. All that matters now is ME and thats the reason we're in the state we're in.

Bit off topic but I don't think it is confined to certain sections of our society sadly.

Everyone is lobbying, petitioning or advocating for there own particular niche as they feel entitled to be exempt. For me it shows a breakdown of communities by in large as there is no sense of pulling together in times of hardship everyone is looking to be exempt or blame someone for what they feel is there right.

Chivito550 · 13-02-2021 12:48pm

ultrapercy wrote: »

speaking of hysteriaðŸ€£ the lord save us.
This pandemic has exposed the selfishness and imaturity of a section of the community as much as it has highlighted the heroism of front lne workers. Whining about sports and hobbies while millions die is modern society defined. All that matters now is ME and thats the reason we're in the state we're in.

I've adhered to these restrictions, even though I disagree with a lot of them. I've seen my parents twice since July even though they are a 20 minute drive away. Most of my friends I haven't seen for a year. I've seen nobody but my fiancé since January!

You're quite the self-righteous one aren't you!

Chivito550 · 13-02-2021 12:50pm

KSU wrote: »

Bit off topic but I don't think it is confined to certain sections of our society sadly.

Everyone is lobbying, petitioning or advocating for there own particular niche as they feel entitled to be exempt. For me it shows a breakdown of communities by in large as there is no sense of pulling together in times of hardship everyone is looking to be exempt or blame someone for what they feel is there right.

Hard for people to pull together when some have had their livelihoods ruined while others are unaffected.

I, myself, am completely unaffected financially. I've been working from home and saved a stupid amount of money. But I'm not so selfish to cast judgements on those less fortunate.

KSU · 13-02-2021 1:01pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

Hard for people to pull together when some have had their livelihoods ruined while others are unaffected.

I, myself, am completely unaffected financially. I've been working from home and saved a stupid amount of money. But I'm not so selfish to cast judgements on those less fortunate.

That is my point though those unaffected tend to downplay the effects of this, those who are in the thick of it tend to be blinkered on the health risk side and others financially hit tend to feel that that supersedes the health side.

Everyone is pulling in their own direction with little regard for those outside of there bubble rather than rallying together as communities supporting each other in order to keep people safe (both from a health and financial perspective)

It's a symptom of a bigger issue in modern day but still sorry to see

Chivito550 · 13-02-2021 1:20pm

KSU wrote: »

That is my point though those unaffected tend to downplay the effects of this, those who are in the thick of it tend to be blinkered on the health risk side and others financially hit tend to feel that that supersedes the health side.

Everyone is pulling in their own direction with little regard for those outside of there bubble rather than rallying together as communities supporting each other in order to keep people safe (both from a health and financial perspective)

It's a symptom of a bigger issue in modern day but still sorry to see

Hasn't that always been the case though? How many times have you walked last a homeless person and done nothing?

KSU · 13-02-2021 1:32pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

Hasn't that always been the case though? How many times have you walked last a homeless person and done nothing?

Previous generations would have seen community as paramount in times of crisis(how many got by in times of hardship through there family and neighbors over the years).

Anecdotally you are probably right I have done it in the past which probably makes me hypocritical in some senses sure, I would like to think the the pandemic has given me perspective with regards this and while you can't help everyone I think mitigating the damage done while still putting health at the forefront serves everyone more.

Call it self righteous if you will but downplaying the extent of the virus to suit a persons narrative and justify behavior is something I think has hamstrung public effort I feel personally.

Anyway kind of got off topic there will leave you to it was more just a comment on society as a whole based on UP's post

Murph_D · 13-02-2021 3:14pm

Dennehy's article seems to be more about news values than any real insight into whether the Games will go ahead. Hopefully they will find a way to stage them, safely. If media representatives are being discouraged from attending, it's hardly surprising. The current conditions would seem to justify pool reporting, for instance, rather than adding to the logistical problems with a larger than necessary influx of sports journalists and other media people. Totally agree that the main driver of staging the Games, if they happen, will be the money.

Chivito550 · 13-02-2021 3:31pm

Murph_D wrote: »

Dennehy's article seems to be more about news values than any real insight into whether the Games will go ahead. Hopefully they will find a way to stage them, safely. If media representatives are being discouraged from attending, it's hardly surprising. The current conditions would seem to justify pool reporting, for instance, rather than adding to the logistical problems with a larger than necessary influx of sports journalists and other media people. Totally agree that the main driver of staging the Games, if they happen, will be the money.

They aren't cutting the number of accredited press, but they are cutting capacity at each venue by 50%. So press will have to book into each event in advance as a result. It probably will put a good few off alright.

ultrapercy · 14-02-2021 3:46am

Chivito550 wrote: »

I've adhered to these restrictions, even though I disagree with a lot of them. I've seen my parents twice since July even though they are a 20 minute drive away. Most of my friends I haven't seen for a year. I've seen nobody but my fiancé since January!

You're quite the self-righteous one aren't you!

am I? As you'd say yourself, you don't know me.

average_runner · 14-02-2021 9:24am

Chivito550 wrote: »

I was referring to hysteria around Olympics going ahead, when other sports events are happening.

But seen as you bring it up, at the time deaths were at 1.2 million, the WHOs best estimate was that 10% of the world's population (approx 760 million) had already had Covid. A death rate of 0.16%.

P. S. 2.38 million have died with Covid, not 3 million.

What other sport event brings so many sports people together in one area ie the village?

If a virus outbreak happens in the village will athletes get sent home along with close contacts?

rom · 15-02-2021 1:06am

The first 21% vaccinated are the group where 98% of deaths occurred so that's why the UK is pushing for that. Now when Ireland gets to that place there may be an acceptance on people going to the olympics getting a vaccine priority due to the event "boosting mental health" etc but the real problem is that this will be an option here but there are many countries will have no vaccine program or be at a very early stage. A hard sell in those places. If it goes ahead it will be very negative for Olympics as it will highlight the lack of balance in global rollout of the vaccine.

Chivito550 · 15-02-2021 9:36am

rom wrote: »

The first 21% vaccinated are the group where 98% of deaths occurred so that's why the UK is pushing for that. Now when Ireland gets to that place there may be an acceptance on people going to the olympics getting a vaccine priority due to the event "boosting mental health" etc but the real problem is that this will be an option here but there are many countries will have no vaccine program or be at a very early stage. A hard sell in those places. If it goes ahead it will be very negative for Olympics as it will highlight the lack of balance in global rollout of the vaccine.

The IOC has stated that a vaccine isn't a requirement. In fact a vaccine is no benefit at all, as you still have to be tested regardless, and isolated if positive.

titan18 · 15-02-2021 9:48am

I don't see how it's possible. Usually there's a turnover of athletes in the Olympic village as some sports end and others begin, but if you need to add in quarantines period before hand like at the Australian Open, you're going to run out of room.

It will be up to governments and people to stop it anyway, the IOC won't give a crap, they just want the money it brings.

rom · 15-02-2021 9:58am

Chivito550 wrote: »

The IOC has stated that a vaccine isn't a requirement. In fact a vaccine is no benefit at all, as you still have to be tested regardless, and isolated if positive.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-vaccines-for-the-tokyo-olympics-have-become-a-political-issue-11613314814

average_runner · 15-02-2021 10:27am

They might just spread the olympics over a bigger time period.

Go with the swimming first, then clean the village and start with the next group. Probably the most sensible approach.

No opening ceremony or closing ceremony with athletes present.

Chivito550 · 15-02-2021 11:38am

rom wrote: »

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-vaccines-for-the-tokyo-olympics-have-become-a-political-issue-11613314814

Well I was in a media briefing with the IOC last week so I will go by that. Unless they have changed their minds since.

demfad · 15-02-2021 12:50pm

ultrapercy wrote: »

speaking of hysteria&#55356;&#56355; the lord save us.
This pandemic has exposed the selfishness and imaturity of a section of the community as much as it has highlighted the heroism of front lne workers. Whining about sports and hobbies while millions die is modern society defined. All that matters now is ME and thats the reason we're in the state we're in.

Agree with this.

I also think actual physical activity is massively great for individuals and the larger community to get mental release during these tough times and protect them as much as possible physically should they be unlucky enough to get infected.

The masses of money spent by nations on Olympics would be better spent on local physical exercise participation.

Also, the astronomical money that surrounds the Olympics probably enough to go towards vaccinating world if there was a serious cooperative global response. Priorities etc.

average_runner · 15-02-2021 12:59pm

demfad wrote: »

Agree with this.

I also think actual physical activity is massively great for individuals and the larger community to get mental release during these tough times and protect them as much as possible physically should they be unlucky enough to get infected.

The masses of money spent by nations on Olympics would be better spent on local physical exercise participation.

Also, the astronomical money that surrounds the Olympics probably enough to go towards vaccinating world if there was a serious cooperative global response. Priorities etc.

Olympics has a purpose also, it gives people something to look forward to.
What the olympics needs to do is tone down the event on the money side.

It rarely adds anything to the community after it finishes up. Brazil is a perfect example of a bad olympics. Olympic park is closed due to safety issues, media centre just a demolished building. The rest is even worst.

The people of Brazil suffered badly due to the Olympics.

API · 15-02-2021 1:29pm

average_runner wrote: »

Olympics has a purpose also, it gives people something to look forward to.
What the olympics needs to do is tone down the event on the money side.

It rarely adds anything to the community after it finishes up. Brazil is a perfect example of a bad olympics. Olympic park is closed due to safety issues, media centre just a demolished building. The rest is even worst.

The people of Brazil suffered badly due to the Olympics.

Anywhere poor suffers badly when the Olympics comes to towns, sweeping away the poor to make room for the shiny stadiums and temporary show of wealth to the world.

I think Tokyo would be a bit better, like London and other first world cities, they already have a good infrastructure in place and are building on top of it. They always have sports events on so will use the facilities afterwards.

MrMusician18 · 15-02-2021 1:40pm

titan18 wrote: »

I don't see how it's possible. Usually there's a turnover of athletes in the Olympic village as some sports end and others begin, but if you need to add in quarantines period before hand like at the Australian Open, you're going to run out of room.

It will be up to governments and people to stop it anyway, the IOC won't give a crap, they just want the money it brings.

I can't see how it can go ahead since a large number of athletes haven't even qualified for the event.

The IOC really needs this to go ahead more than anyone else. The Olympics has really been damaged by the corruption and demands placed on the host cities by the IOC, and the sports themselves by endemic doping. We have to remember that the next two host cities were chosen because there were no other realistic contenders interested in having it.

The losses faced by the IOC if Tokyo isn't staged could be cataclysmic for them and it couldn't happen to nicer people tbh.

demfad · 15-02-2021 2:18pm

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I can't see how it can go ahead since a large number of athletes haven't even qualified for the event.

The IOC really needs this to go ahead more than anyone else. The Olympics has really been damaged by the corruption and demands placed on the host cities by the IOC, and the sports themselves by endemic doping. We have to remember that the next two host cities were chosen because there were no other realistic contenders interested in having it.

The losses faced by the IOC if Tokyo isn't staged could be cataclysmic for them and it couldn't happen to nicer people tbh.

In the future: a different city/country per event or event group might be the way to go.

E.G Separate gymnastics, sailing, rowing, track sprint, track distance, field, cycling, Basket, Volley etc etc.

Chivito550 · 15-02-2021 2:38pm

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I can't see how it can go ahead since a large number of athletes haven't even qualified for the event.

The IOC really needs this to go ahead more than anyone else. The Olympics has really been damaged by the corruption and demands placed on the host cities by the IOC, and the sports themselves by endemic doping. We have to remember that the next two host cities were chosen because there were no other realistic contenders interested in having it.

The losses faced by the IOC if Tokyo isn't staged could be cataclysmic for them and it couldn't happen to nicer people tbh.

Yes, but if the IOC suffers, so do all the individual federations, and those sports collapse. Do you want this to happen?

Chivito550 · 15-02-2021 2:40pm

demfad wrote: »

In the future: a different city/country per event or event group might be the way to go.

E.G Separate gymnastics, sailing, rowing, track sprint, track distance, field, cycling, Basket, Volley etc etc.

So essentially a World Championships for each sport?

We already have those!

Nobody is forcing a city to bid for the Olympics by the way. Its shocking decision making to go for it if you can't support it. Rio should never have bid for it.

average_runner · 15-02-2021 3:00pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

So essentially a World Championships for each sport?

We already have those!

Nobody is forcing a city to bid for the Olympics by the way. Its shocking decision making to go for it if you can't support it. Rio should never have bid for it.

Well the amount of cities wanting it are dropping now. Hence they really only had two options for 2024 and 2028.

The sport side of it is fantastic. Sports don't get that much financial aid out of it also.

Would love to see a breakdown of the funds to sports from the olympics?

3DataModem · 15-02-2021 3:09pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

when other sports events are happening.

There's nothing comparable to the olympics happening.

15000 volunteers, 15000 paid staff, 20000 contractors, and 10000 athletes coming from all over the globe... and that excludes families and spectators.

JustAThought · 15-02-2021 3:25pm

I guess most of the athletes will be careful - but lets face it - why collect your best and finest and put them into a goldfish bowl of international germs.

The pity is that for most this is their lifelong goal they have worked and made sacrifices towards to achieve. Its not as thou you can just decide to come back the following year.

If it goes ahead they will attend and compete. And Japan will hardly call it off - too much money riding on it, sadly. Its all about profit.

Re Zika there are aprox 7,000 dirextly tracable Zika babies in Brazil with unknown children with acute lifelong developmental delays caused by it. A further 120+ in the US and a further seven thousand in the US being monitored for profound behavioural and lifelong disabilities including inability to see, feeding, cognition etc. Pretty high price to pay for a mosquito bite & holiday.

Article in New York Times - paywall.

Chivito550 · 15-02-2021 3:40pm

JustAThought wrote: »

I guess most of the athletes will be careful - but lets face it - why collect your best and finest and put them into a goldfish bowl of international germs.

The pity is that for most this is their lifelong goal they have worked and made sacrifices towards to achieve. Its not as thou you can just decide to come back the following year.

If it goes ahead they will attend and compete. And Japan will hardly call it off - too much money riding on it, sadly. Its all about profit.

Re Zika there are aprox 7,000 dirextly tracable Zika babies in Brazil with unknown children with acute lifelong developmental delays caused by it. A further 120+ in the US and a further seven thousand in the US being monitored for profound behavioural and lifelong disabilities including inability to see, feeding, cognition etc. Pretty high price to pay for a mosquito bite & holiday.

Article in New York Times - paywall.

Zika was a non issue in Rio during their winter though. Humidity levels are low. I honestly didn't see a single mosquito when I was there.

No doubt summer in Rio is a different issue, but the Olympics were not taking place in their summer. It was a complete non story as far as the Olympics were concerned. But the media latched onto it.

MrMusician18 · 15-02-2021 3:49pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

Yes, but if the IOC suffers, so do all the individual federations, and those sports collapse. Do you want this to happen?

Of course I don't want that to happen. Who would want to see the federations collapse and athletes that have put massive efforts and sacrifice in for it to come to naught? I do think the federations need to get real though and actually tackle corruption within their own ranks and force change within the IOC. And that's before we get to doping. Maybe a cancelled games and the resulting clear out could be the catalyst to make that happen.

It really is bonkers that in order to have a well run games, host cities are looking at expenditures in the order of €12bn. Is it any wonder the world is now starting to call the IOC nonsense out.

When you think about the demands placed upon host cities by the IOC, besides massive stadia and infrastructure such as Olympic lanes and 5 star hotels for the blazers, there is little wonder there is pushback against holding it. Host cities take almost all of the risk while the IOC pockets the profit.

demfad · 24-02-2021 11:19am

Chivito550 wrote: »

So essentially a World Championships for each sport?

We already have those!

Nobody is forcing a city to bid for the Olympics by the way. Its shocking decision making to go for it if you can't support it. Rio should never have bid for it.

No. An Olympics with similar format to a world championships.
The cost to a city of supporting an Olympics is too high. Most cities will underestimate the fact that only a small amount of cities in a small amount of countries can afford this. You have to also look at the ethics of these mega events also. For example, 6500 migrants have already died constructing World Cup venues in Qatar. I haven't researched but I am assuming Beijing, Rio etc have caused live to be lost and/or destroyed. (I am not making claims against Tokyo/Japan BTW)

Interesting as analysis of elite performance is, the entire raison d'etre of the Olympics was to promote health and well being amongst young people.
Surely spreading it around brings it closer to the people it is supposed to influence?

What we see now is an abomination to make money for billionaires at human cost, posing as something else.

Chivito550 · 24-02-2021 12:59pm

demfad wrote: »

No. An Olympics with similar format to a world championships.
The cost to a city of supporting an Olympics is too high. Most cities will underestimate the fact that only a small amount of cities in a small amount of countries can afford this. You have to also look at the ethics of these mega events also. For example, 6500 migrants have already died constructing World Cup venues in Qatar. I haven't researched but I am assuming Beijing, Rio etc have caused live to be lost and/or destroyed. (I am not making claims against Tokyo/Japan BTW)

Interesting as analysis of elite performance is, the entire raison d'etre of the Olympics was to promote health and well being amongst young people.
Surely spreading it around brings it closer to the people it is supposed to influence?

What we see now is an abomination to make money for billionaires at human cost, posing as something else.

The logistics of having an Olympics spread over the world would be a disaster. Media and broadcasters wouldn't be able to cover multiple sports. This would drive up costs significantly. The organisation of it would be a total mess too. It would nearly be better just having a series of World Championships run by individual federations in that case.

I don't disagree re the costs of the Olympics. But again, nobody is forcing a city to bid for it. And in most countries that bid for a Games (there are exceptions of course), people aren't being forced to work in construction.

3DataModem · 25-02-2021 4:21pm

JustAThought wrote: »

I guess most of the athletes will be careful - but lets face it.

It is well known and well documented that the athletes do a lot of boning at the Olympics.

https://www.espn.com/olympics/summer/2012/story/_/id/8133052/athletes-spill-details-dirty-secrets-olympic-village-espn-magazine

API · 25-02-2021 5:50pm

3DataModem wrote: »

It is well known and well documented that the athletes do a lot of boning at the Olympics.

https://www.espn.com/olympics/summer/2012/story/_/id/8133052/athletes-spill-details-dirty-secrets-olympic-village-espn-magazine

Reminds me of the set-up for a music festival or something.

https://www.businessinsider.in/thelife/news/the-tokyo-olympics-say-theyre-going-to-hand-out-150000-free-condoms-and-require-athletes-to-keep-a-6-foot-distance-from-each-other-and-the-internet-is-having-a-field-day-over-the-contradiction/articleshow/80845213.cms#:~:text=An%20Olympic%20tradition,to%20athletes%20at%20the%20Olympics.&text=In%20Beijing%20in%202008%2C%20organizers,athlete%20to%20have%2042%20condoms.

Ceepo · 09-03-2021 9:02pm

Announced today that there will be NO over sea's spectators

Kyodo news agency says Japanese government has concluded that welcoming fans from abroad would not be possible; formal decision expected by end of month; Olympics set for July 23 to August 8; opening ceremony to be held behind closed doors; Paralympics run from August 24 to September 5

https://www-skysports-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.skysports.com/amp/olympics/news/15234/12240791/tokyo-2020-japan-to-stage-olympics-without-overseas-spectators-says-kyodo-news-agency?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16153199479130&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.skysports.com%2Folympics%2Fnews%2F15234%2F12240791%2Ftokyo-2020-japan-to-stage-olympics-without-overseas-spectators-says-kyodo-news-agency

Chivito550 · 20-03-2021 12:23pm

No foreign spectators. Officially confirmed.

Inevitable really.

The Olympic Games WILL be going ahead

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