Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings

RobitTV · 15-02-2021 10:37AM

Majorca in July here I come. I don't think I'm up for another Irish stay at home summer. I stayed in Ireland for the whole of 2020.

They want people to stay at home this summer for a staycation. But there will be so many restrictions on the nightlife and entertainment industry. It's not even worth paying a large amount of money to not enjoy yourself. Plus the weather is never guaranteed.

So many pubs don't even have outdoor space in Ireland. This is going to be interesting...

ypres5 · 15-02-2021 10:42AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Can you call it a “plan” if there are no dates or metrics involved?

Might as well just say that we hope cases will get really low and stay that way

the messaging here compared to the tone and optimism in the uk is absolutely atrocious.

Boggles · 15-02-2021 10:46AM

Deleted User wrote: »

She has a lot of opinions that are ridiculous. That doesn't mean that it is in any way rational to allow her to essentially steal one's own sense of reality. Many here would deny that the sky looks blue on a clear day, had Gemma O'Doherty gone on record to say it last week. It's a ridiculous amount of power and attention to give to someone whose goal seems to be power and attention.

And Gemma O'Doherty claiming ridiculous things in court last year does not change the fact that our government, by refusing to send a very clear message about the importance of vitamin D, both as preventative and as therapeutic treatments for Covid-19, has cost (and continues to cost) many, many lives.

We're not talking a small difference, either. We're talking about people with adequate levels of vitamin D being half as likely to die from Covid-19. Half.

I remain in anticipation of any of the anti-anti-lockdown crowd joining me in my condemnation of the government for that fact, being clear about whether they believe it's malice or incompetence (they really are the only options), and then explaining to me why they believe it is irrational to assume that that same malice or incompetence might carry over to other strategies the government is implementing.

If the argument is that I ought to fully trust a government and health advisory committee that have, by the omission of advice or information, knowingly allowed unnecessary deaths to occur for almost a year now from the same disease they are ostensibly attempting to save me from, then fine. Just say that. I'd disagree, but the honesty would at least be refreshing.

Is the Irish government alone in the world at keeping this miracle cure secret from it populous?

RobitTV · 15-02-2021 10:49AM

UK positivity:

- Plans to ease lockdown boosted by figures showing dramatic vaccine impact
- Prime Minister said number of new cases already dropped 'very considerably'
- It is thought this could mean the re-opening of High Street shops within weeks
- Ministers also considering plans to allow families to go on self-catered holidays this Easter
- It has led to growing hope that families will be able to meet outside by Easter
- UK hits 15 million jabs landmark and Hancock aims for 32m by April
- A travel industry campaign group, called Save Our Summer, has demanded international travel is allowed to resume from May 1

Hector Savage · 15-02-2021 11:06AM

Elessar wrote: »

Sadly you're probably right. But I hope the government comes under enormous pressure long before that, as the most vulnerable will have been vaccinated and the UK and countries in Europe mostly be free nations by then.

Most countries in europe are vaccinating at a snails pace, I am in Spain and at current rate we'll only have 40% vaccinated at the end of this year, so since the new goal is 100% vaccination this **** will go on for another 2 years minimum.

RobitTV · 15-02-2021 11:15AM

Looks like we will be sneaking into Northern Ireland for a haircut.

Penfailed · 15-02-2021 11:15AM

paw patrol wrote: »

your signature has a list of concerts - so I'll guess you like them a lot
how can your glass be even near half full?

Yeah. It's one of my favourite things to do. The last gig I was at was this time last year. I haven't had a year without at least one big gig since I started going in the early '90s. It's disappointing. I understand why they're not happening though. It's not a phenomenon that's isolated to Ireland. Bands just aren't touring anywhere. I've got the memories of so many excellent gigs to draw on and I can look forward to a future when they restart. Fúck knows when that will happen...but it will happen.

agoodpunt · 15-02-2021 11:23AM

Fining people with fresh haircuts just heard on that irish poxy media channel probably another primetime expose on the way

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-52623495

more evidence if needed to know we are the most restricted in europe

Russman · 15-02-2021 11:32AM

RobitTV wrote: »

UK positivity:
- A travel industry campaign group, called Save Our Summer, has demanded international travel is allowed to resume from May 1

Well as long as they've demanded it, it should be ok then

RobitTV · 15-02-2021 11:33AM

Sky News UK: Deputy chair of the COVID Recovery Group and Conservative MP Steve Baker has called on the government to remove all legal coronavirus restrictions by the end of April.

"By Easter, in seven weeks' time, we will have vaccinated two thirds of those in priority groups five-nine, that includes people under the age of 50 who are vulnerable.

"Easter is the time for pubs and hospitality venues, it is very important to their revenues and to us as we seek to rebuild our social lives.

"Then by the end of April one to nine priority groups will have been vaccinated, so we can remove restrictions because people have been protected, people who have accounted for 99% of deaths from coronavirus, so that's the moment to really get a spring in our step and, as the prime minister has said, reclaim our lives once and for all."

Sky News

TheDoctor · 15-02-2021 11:38AM

Going to be some laugh when the North opens up in April and it all falls apart down here.

Penfailed · 15-02-2021 11:41AM

TheDoctor wrote: »

Going to be some laugh when the North opens up in April and it all falls apart down here.

I wouldn't hold your breath on the north opening. They (along with Scotland and Wales) have consistently been stricter than England.

facehugger99 · 15-02-2021 11:43AM

Will be interesting to see the Covid clappy-seals turning themselves in knots to justify continuing L5 restrictions in Ireland when the UK is back to normal in April.

Penfailed · 15-02-2021 11:45AM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Will be interesting to see the Covid clappy-seals turning themselves in knots to justify continuing L5 restrictions in Ireland when the UK is back to normal in April.

The UK won't be 'back to normal' in April. Can you stop with the 'clappy-seals' shíte? It doesn't add anything to your argument.

Whiplash85 · 15-02-2021 11:46AM

The North will reopen and it will be hilarious to watch them enjoying their lives again properly since January/February last year. Meanwhile we will be stuck in purgatory down here, rudderless and still being painted doomsday scenarios. It will finish any calls for a United Ireland and to think our media were holding up NI as poster boys for how not to do it. Not so many comparisons with 7 day averages now.

paw patrol · 15-02-2021 11:51AM

Penfailed wrote: »

Yeah. It's one of my favourite things to do. The last gig I was at was this time last year. I haven't had a year without at least one big gig since I started going in the early '90s. It's disappointing. I understand why they're not happening though. It's not a phenomenon that's isolated to Ireland. Bands just aren't touring anywhere. I've got the memories of so many excellent gigs to draw on and I can look forward to a future when they restart. Fúck knows when that will happen...but it will happen.

you are more stoic than me tbh

SheepsClothing · 15-02-2021 11:55AM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Will be interesting to see the Covid clappy-seals turning themselves in knots to justify continuing L5 restrictions in Ireland when the UK is back to normal in April.

We are not in the UK.

ypres5 · 15-02-2021 11:57AM

SheepsClothing wrote: »

We are not in the UK.

he wasn't saying we were

SheepsClothing · 15-02-2021 11:59AM

ypres5 wrote: »

he wasn't saying we were

Then what's his point? They will be easing restrictions, because they'll have vaccinated a high proportion of their population, we won't have at that point. The justification for restrictions remaining in place here will be self explanatory.

ypres5 · 15-02-2021 12:01PM

SheepsClothing wrote: »

Then what's his point? They will be easing restrictions, because they'll have vaccinated a high proportion of their population, we won't have at that point. The justification for restrictions remaining in place here will be self explanatory.

i think his point is people in ireland were quick enough to go on about the uk when things were going against them and now that they're opening up for good those people won't be so quick to do that now

15-02-2021 12:05PM

Boggles wrote: »

Is the Irish government alone in the world at keeping this miracle cure secret from it populous?

Still no answer Boggles? It's almost as though you're finding this uncomfortable.

Let's try a fourth time.

Why would the government not be strongly recommending, even providing, a cheap, safe and effective therapy that's been shown to stop people dying from Covid-19?

I'm not subject to the whims of the government of Botswana, nor likely to be fined or arrested by their police if I have the audacity to try to eat a picnic 5.5m from my home, so I don't give a fig what they're recommending or not.

RobitTV · 15-02-2021 12:06PM

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1361216543414181890

DulchieLaois · 15-02-2021 12:11PM

Overall , I think the Government has done an absolute shambles of a job.

They had many opportunities at the beginning to shut down the airports and country and police the borders between NI and ROI, fine anyone the 2k euros that is being down at the Airports.

They were well aware of the UK strain as far back as Sept/Oct and yet they still allow people into the country, utter madness.

They constantly find some group to blame, Communions, shoppers, GAA, Bulgarian fruit works, everyone bar themselves and the most worrying thing is that the most cases at present are all medical related staff in Nursing Homes, Home carers and Hospital staff, yet everyone has to suffer as a result of their failings.

They don’t want to be questioned on anything and leave everything to NPHET cause it saves them a lot of hard questions and let the blame upon NPHET and Tony the poor crater still trying to make everyone responsible, yet they have none.

The whole system is a joke.

Why we not protesting, cause they are giving out PUP payments to everyone to keep them quiet.

TheDoctor · 15-02-2021 12:13PM

The protests will only start when people start getting hit in their pockets. Like that water charges last time round.

TheDoctor · 15-02-2021 12:15PM

ypres5 wrote: »

i think his point is people in ireland were quick enough to go on about the uk when things were going against them and now that they're opening up for good those people won't be so quick to do that now

Exactly. People here were happy to do the, "well things are bad but look at the UK" for months and months. The tables are turning fast and memories are short.

RobitTV · 15-02-2021 12:15PM

Germany has announced it will be reopen hairdressers and barbers on the 1st of March.

Happydays2020 · 15-02-2021 12:16PM

DulchieLaois wrote: »

Overall , I think the Government has done an absolute shambles of a job.

They had many opportunities at the beginning to shut down the airports and country and police the borders between NI and ROI, fine anyone the 2k euros that is being down at the Airports.

They were well aware of the UK strain as far back as Sept/Oct and yet they still allow people into the country, utter madness.

They constantly find some group to blame, Communions, shoppers, GAA, Bulgarian fruit works, everyone bar themselves and the most worrying thing is that the most cases at present are all medical related staff in Nursing Homes, Home carers and Hospital staff, yet everyone has to suffer as a result of their failings.

They don’t want to be questioned on anything and leave everything to NPHET cause it saves them a lot of hard questions and let the blame upon NPHET and Tony the poor crater still trying to make everyone responsible, yet they have none.

The whole system is a joke.

Why we not protesting, cause they are giving out PUP payments to everyone to keep them quiet.

A lot of revisionism in that post.

Penfailed · 15-02-2021 12:18PM

Whiplash85 wrote: »

The North will reopen and it will be hilarious to watch them enjoying their lives again properly since January/February last year. Meanwhile we will be stuck in purgatory down here, rudderless and still being painted doomsday scenarios. It will finish any calls for a United Ireland and to think our media were holding up NI as poster boys for how not to do it. Not so many comparisons with 7 day averages now.

We'll reopen too. The CMO and the health minister in the north have both stated that there will probably be some restrictions in place until next year. What will be hilarious about watching them enjoying their lives?

Happydays2020 · 15-02-2021 12:21PM

RobitTV wrote: »

Germany has announced it will be reopen hairdressers and barbers on the 1st of March.

The reality is that things will open up everywhere. There will be controls on most risky activities including in households and hospitality but livelihood issues will start to get air time (the lunatic lock down forever view is still dominating though)

We are locked down for 7 weeks (level 5 plus) at this point with advanced restrictions (back to Level 5 normal) for at least another 7 weeks (post Easter).

Boggles · 15-02-2021 12:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Still no answer Boggles? It's almost as though you're finding this uncomfortable.

Let's try a fourth time.

Why would the government not be strongly recommending, even providing, a cheap, safe and effective therapy that's been shown to stop people dying from Covid-19?

There is no need I all ready answered your question.

Boggles wrote: »

I have no idea why the government would be killing people on purpose.

I do know that exact same "point" was argued in the high court though.

Ms O'Doherty said what the State did was "absolutely disgusting"...There was a cure for the virus, she claimed, from hydroxychloroquine, vitamin C and zinc, but hospitals were putting people into intensive care and "bringing about their deaths".

The judge had a similar reaction to me.

Now if you could answer my question below I would appreciate it.

Boggles wrote: »

Is the Irish government alone in the world at keeping this miracle cure secret from it populous?

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