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WandaVision - Disney+ (***Spoilers***)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,547 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    When Darcy first saw Monica in the show it was a clip from an episode we hadn't seen before.

    Did she not see her in the second episode we saw when they were at the garden committee meeting, or whatever it was?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Did she not see her in the second episode we saw when they were at the garden committee meeting, or whatever it was?

    Nope it was a scene with Monica sitting on a bench the foreground while Wanda talked with Agnes in the background. Then she saw them at the committee and remarked that she'd be upgraded to a speaking part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,547 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Would've been funny if, for the 90's sitcom, they chose to do That 70's Show. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 paulie1983


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Would've been funny if, for the 90's sitcom, they chose to do That 70's Show. :)

    They skipped the 90s sitcom but a Full House skit would have been nice with Quicksilver doing an Uncle Jesse bit with the kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,785 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    A little disappointed with this weeks episode but things are ticking along nicely


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    paulie1983 wrote: »
    They skipped the 90s sitcom but a Full House skit would have been nice with Quicksilver doing an Uncle Jesse bit with the kids.

    The beginning of the latest episode was Malcolm in the Middle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 paulie1983


    The beginning of the latest episode was Malcolm in the Middle

    I know are you saying Malcom In The Middle was a 90s show ? Its a 00s show it never aired in the 90s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    The beginning of the latest episode was Malcolm in the Middle

    Technically MitM first aired in 2000 but it was clearly a product of the 90s. It's not like there is a cut off where culture automatically stops and evolves over night.

    For the record it didn't bother me that WandaVisiom "skipped" the 90s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,812 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    paulie1983 wrote: »
    I know are you saying Malcom In The Middle was a 90s show ? Its a 00s show it never aired in the 90s.

    It was filmed in the 90s and showed 90s life... We all understand. But to drive it home, maybe its more like Clarissa Explains It All, if that's what you want to hear :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,557 ✭✭✭madalig12


    If they dont do 'friends' im gonna be pissed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    How I met your mother could be a good one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    Going off the promo below, from a few weeks ago, it looks very much like they are doing Modern Family next



  • Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Don’t see the evidence in that clip. They can’t do how I met your mother, friends, etc. as it has to be a family show.

    I’ve never seen Malcolm in the Middle but it’s a likely candidate if it dies the mockumentary style.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭shawki


    Sitcoms I would have liked to see:

    Home Improvement
    Married with Children
    Happy Days
    The Middle
    Animated series like Flintstones/Jetsons
    Boy meets World


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,536 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Don’t see the evidence in that clip. They can’t do how I met your mother, friends, etc. as it has to be a family show.

    I’ve never seen Malcolm in the Middle but it’s a likely candidate if it dies the mockumentary style.

    45 seconds in they have Wanda doing the speaking to the camera mockumentary bit, and her lines are delivered a lot like Phil did in Modern family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,265 ✭✭✭paulbok


    I think this might be the end of the sitcom format. There's nowhere to really go with it now.

    I'm surprised they didn't go for a Friends style 90's intro. Starting at the 50's there were 9 decades to reference for 9 episodes.
    Maybe next week has a flashback or Wanda tries to reset everything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,979 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Their take On Malcolm In The Middle didn't really work at all. It didn't capture any of the humour of MITM at all


  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    siblers wrote: »
    Their take On Malcolm In The Middle didn't really work at all. It didn't capture any of the humour of MITM at all


    They spent a lot less time on the sitcom element, and apart from the opening credits not sure there was much intent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,685 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    siblers wrote: »
    Their take On Malcolm In The Middle didn't really work at all. It didn't capture any of the humour of MITM at all

    I don't think at this stage it's really meant to. The sitcom aspect is being truncated more and more because Wanda is trying to replicate an idyllic American family life for her and Vision (and now the kids) using sitcom styles as a sort of framing device, but now she's losing control over it all so it's just becoming an intro to the style and time period of world she's trying to create.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    siblers wrote: »
    Their take On Malcolm In The Middle didn't really work at all. It didn't capture any of the humour of MITM at all

    It worked as much as the others for me, but it’s the period that seemed off. The title sequence, particularly the font, were 90s... but then you’d a single cam, wall breaking setup that was really the 00s?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,301 ✭✭✭✭klose


    I'm surprised they didn't do a friend's themed episode, probably the most famous sitcom of all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    I think it says a lot for the quality of this episode when most comments are about what decade the comedy was aping..


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 26,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    klose wrote: »
    I'm surprised they didn't do a friend's themed episode, probably the most famous sitcom of all?

    They’re only parodying family sitcoms now.

    The lifeboat has set sail



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,265 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Loughc wrote: »
    They’re only parodying family sitcoms now.

    Maybe it's mirroring Wanda's changing circumstances, couple sitcom, family sitcom and when it all starts to unravel, Breaking Bad and then GOT when she goes full dragon queen. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,265 ✭✭✭paulbok


    It worked as much as the others for me, but it’s the period that seemed off. The title sequence, particularly the font, were 90s... but then you’d a single cam, wall breaking setup that was really the 00s?

    Malcolm often broke the 4th wall, like Deadpool.
    Just saying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    paulbok wrote: »
    Maybe it's mirroring Wanda's changing circumstances, couple sitcom, family sitcom and when it all starts to unravel, Breaking Bad and then GOT when she goes full dragon queen. :D

    Well I’d say your actually pretty right, it’s her current circumstances. She portraying the life she wants using reference points from tv for how her life would be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    It worked as much as the others for me, but it’s the period that seemed off. The title sequence, particularly the font, were 90s... but then you’d a single cam, wall breaking setup that was really the 00s?

    The homage was most clearly to Malcom in the Middle which started in 00. The credits and the boys talking to the camera was 100% Malcolm. Breaking the 4th wall in sitcoms was reasonably common in the 90s too. With Clarissa Explains it All, Saved by the Bell and occasionally Fresh Prince doing it. I feel the last two episodes have been blended decades. Last week the sitcoms portrayed in the credits were Family Ties (80s), Growing Pains (mid80s-early90s) and Full House (late80-mid90s). This week was more late90-early00s in feel.

    I was a little disappointed that we didn't get a more fully 90s centric episode with a Married With Children/Simpsons style episode. But realistically they just don't fit with Wanda's narrative. Al Bundy and Homer are not even slightly a representation of her vision of Vision.:P Al and Peg, especially, aren't great people and their marriage is toxic. While the Wilkerson family is chaotic, Hal is a great person who loves deeply and has a variety of random talents. All of the children, while unruly, are extremely intelligent or talented in some ways (Reese's cooking, Francis did a decent job on the ranch). Lois is controlling and displays anger but she is like a lioness who would destroy anyone who hurts her family. So while the fractiousness of the family represents Wanda's loss of control, it is still a family defined by it's constant, deep love.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Something I just realised, Hayward would have known that Wanda had stolen Vision's body before sending Monica to meet Woo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭dingledosser


    Watched Endgame again today, and noticed that Wanda, Falcon and Bucky are standing together in their own little group at the funeral. I will not be surprised if the boys show up in Wandavision.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    flazio wrote: »
    I'll be honest, I reckon a decent editor could make a coherent motion picture out of what we have seen so far without reshoots. This has been made into a series for the sake of getting 2 months worth of Disney+ subscriptions out of Marvel fans.
    I'm enjoying it, but I don't think it has rewatch value in this format.

    I'm confident those arguments could be made against nearly every single TV show.

    At a fundamental level every show exists to keep you watching - I'm not sure why it is an implied negative because it is on Disney+. Also, the first season of most shows (or even later seasons) could be made into a relatively tight movie. Sure at this point we've barely seen more than a long motion picture.

    If a person just wants to consume things as fast as possible they might as well just watch the 5 minute breakdown on YouTube or read the Wikipedia synopsis. I get the point that this show would work as a movie but it would lose so much of what people seem to be enjoying about it - the mystery, the character development.


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