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Scotland vs Wales 6n 2021

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    #152
    DellyBelly
    Registered Users Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Great try.. 3 tries in the second half for Wales.. That's an incredible coneback


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    #153
    gally74
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭gally74


    fitz wrote: »
    Balls.
    Wheels on him, though...

    Youth to the fore, speedy looks good too


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    #154
    clsmooth
    Registered Users Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Jacob Stockdalesque


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    #155
    aloooof
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Last week the player didn't move, was pinned at the time and O'Mahony put his whole shoulder and elbow flat into the hit. It lacked the characteristics of a clear out and looked much more like he was putting a marker down.

    Fagerson's red looked like he tried to get under and lift the player and got it wrong.

    I think he definitely wanted to put down a marker. I don’t think he deliberately hit him in the head tho.

    Anyways, off topic. This is turnout out to be a cracking game.


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    #156
    tanko
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    Always nice to see Hogg get burned.


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    #157
    prawnsambo
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    Fun game to watch this.


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    #158
    eclipsechaser
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    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    A red card in rugby means that you lost the game. It’s almost impossible to win a match with 14 men.

    That's the point. Don't want to cost your team the match? Don't shoulder anyone to the head.

    It might take a bit of time but players will figure it out eventually. If we get some short term pain for a safer game, it will be worth it.


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    #159
    pickarooney
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    Sabre0001 wrote: »
    So how does the breakdown get fixed? Rolling in earlier game led to serious injury, arriving at pace is resulting in these hits (even if they're trying to stay low)? You can see why teams are relying on kicking ball / keeping it super tight so players don't get isolated.

    Radical idea - the jackal who gets there first takes the ball. Clearing out is basically hitting a player in a vulnerable position without the ball. Let him take it and then tackle him legally?


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    #160
    Squidgy Black
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    That's a huge miss by Sheedy


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    #161
    razorblunt
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    Mad to think that LRZ is only in because of Adams’ cock up.
    Pivac’s luck is astonishing.


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    #162
    [Deleted User]
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    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    At some stage the punishment has to match the crime.

    Let's allow impacts against the head but only punish them when someone is knocked out.

    Do you think at all before you type?

    Head impacts need to stop, period.


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    #163
    clsmooth
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Let's allow impacts against the head but only punish them when someone is knocked out.

    Do you think at all before you type?

    Head impacts need to stop, period.

    Stop talking sense


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    #164
    almostover
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    Sabre0001 wrote: »
    So how does the breakdown get fixed? Rolling in earlier game led to serious injury, arriving at pace is resulting in these hits (even if they're trying to stay low)? You can see why teams are relying on kicking ball / keeping it super tight so players don't get isolated.

    Rugby would be better to watch with far fewer injuries if the jackal was removed from the game


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    #165
    clsmooth
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    Getting a huge sense of deja vu today.


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    #166
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    eclipsechaser wrote: »
    That's the point. Don't want to cost your team the match? Don't shoulder anyone to the head.

    Most players have figured that out.


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    #167
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,536 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Let's allow impacts against the head but only punish them when someone is knocked out.

    Do you think at all before you type?

    Head impacts need to stop, period.


    If the impact to the head is an issue because of player welfare then when a hit to the head is sufficiently bad that it warrants a red card in the name of safety it should warrant an automatic HIA for the player who got hit.

    It’s either about player safety or it’s not.

    You can’t have it both ways.



    When a player is tackled in the air how they land determines the sanction. Why not apply that rationale here.


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    #168
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users Posts: 8,536 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Most players have figured that out.

    Some players are unlucky because the game moves so fast.


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    #169
    A-Train
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    Shocking kick from Price. Lovely kick from Zammit


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    #170
    RugbyLover123
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    Zammit winning this for Wales. Great kick.


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    #171
    fitz
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    Wtf was Price thinking?


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    #172
    Bazzo
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    The idea was probably ok, there was space there.. terrible execution though


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    #173
    TomsOnTheRoof
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    Price should be shot for that.


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    #174
    Scratchly
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    How can a scrum half be so clueless about rugby?


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    #175
    [Deleted User]
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    That was the most utterly stupid kick I've seen.


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    #176
    cantwbr1
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    fitz wrote: »
    Wtf was Price thinking?
    Russel did the same a few minutes ago
    Brain dead


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    #177
    Squidgy Black
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    That's a fantastic touch finder.

    Russell and Price are both a liability when it comes to the crunch time.


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    #178
    almostover
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    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    If the impact to the head is an issue because of player welfare then when a hit to the head is sufficiently bad that it warrants a red card in the name of safety it should warrant an automatic HIA for the player who got hit.

    It’s either about player safety or it’s not.

    You can’t have it both ways.

    Allowing poaching in a ruck has caused far more injuries than it is worth to the game. I'm thinking of Paul O'Connell, Dan Leavy and today Jack Willis for England. It's a very vulnerable position. And you can't expect the opposition to leave you there and take the ball without trying to clear you out. There should be no hands on the ball once a tackle is completed and to win a turnover you should have to ruck past the ball.


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    #179
    bilston
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    That was the most utterly stupid kick I've seen.

    Unbelievable


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    #180
    [Deleted User]
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    Very entertaining game.

    Some actual rugby played.


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    #181
    Squidgy Black
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    Russell got lucky there. My god.


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