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WandaVision - Disney+ (***Spoilers***)

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  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I'm sure it was pointed out already but Agnes was just credited as "Agnes"

    And this is an example of why being weekly is actually not all bad. Would this thread be nearly 600 posts long if not for all the theories and discussion? If all episodes were released at once, people would be scared to come in here until they watch it, make a few comments, then mostly move on.

    At the moment, I find looking forward to a TV show each week is the most I have going on. :D


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    What happens to the frozen people? When Pietro asks where she was hiding the kids, he says he assumes they were just lying peacefully in their beds until now. Surely they need to eat and drink, piss and shít. Is that what the ad with the kid not being able to eat food was about? Are these people who are frozen dying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,901 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    What happens to the frozen people? When Pietro asks where she was hiding the kids, he says he assumes they were just lying peacefully in their beds until now. Surely they need to eat and drink, piss and shít. Is that what the ad with the kid not being able to eat food was about? Are these people who are frozen dying?

    Oooooooohhhhhhh that is a great, and effing dark, shout!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,547 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Was the kids he referred to not the twins and the fact they seemed to come from nowhere as 10 year olds, or whatever age they are.

    Fr the frozen people, I was wondering how they were all dressed for Halloween. It was like they were all put into position to move when told.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,979 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    That scientist/hacker one is very annoying and one dimensional. She adds nothing to the show


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  • Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    iguana wrote: »
    Something occurred to me while watching this episode. In the initial episodes Vision was totally innocent but as the decades have kept moving on he has become more aware and more open about his increasing awareness. It struck me that is also true of the tv shows of each era. In the 50s and 60s the shows were very innocent and depicted more wholesome/perfect lives. In the late 60s/70s they were becoming slightly more nuanced and the stories and jokes gave little nudge, nudge, wink, wink references to reality. By the 80s, shows were socially aware, open about sex and drugs but certainly lectured their audience to be good. By the Malcolm in the Middle era tv sitcoms presented much harsher sides of family life. Vision's realisation that something was wrong and his willingness to confront it, matches the way tv sitcoms presented family life in each era to some degree.

    Good call. Remember in episode 2 the two single beds merged into one? That was also an example of a very slight increase in raunchiness, which happened in the late 60s, and although not self aware Vision was playing a “drunk”, and the action was more natural.

    Why is Wanda doing this this way though? These are actually what is being transmitted so she is in control of what is being seen within the hex and broadcast. There may be no in universe explanation for that.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Was the kids he referred to not the twins and the fact they seemed to come from nowhere as 10 year olds, or whatever age they are.

    Fr the frozen people, I was wondering how they were all dressed for Halloween. It was like they were all put into position to move when told.

    No, he was talking about all the people. Mentions about her keeping the families together, personalities mostly the same. Plus a few episodes back Vision asks her why are there no kids about.

    It is just Wanda setting up the "episode". We're doing a Halloween special today so she just magics everyone into position and changes their clothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Alex Garland:
    The Movie: Annihilation
    Kevin Feige:
    Hold my Brewery!

    6: That was cool! I mean like.. not much more to say! Expecting
    Monica Rambeau's surprise contact is gonna be someone high enough level next episode!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    He does point out his reason for being there is to cause mayhem and drive up tension in the family (as the freeloading brother in-law sleeping on the couch) - and that is "what you (wanda) wanted". So his entire personality could simply be grounded in the tv trope rather than 'him'

    Yeah, I think he's acting that way because that's how he's supposed to act for the "show", but he's a bit of an anomaly in the same way Agnes and Norm are. They're more self aware than other characters. Perhaps it's because they're interacting more with Wanda (since the further away they are, the less people act until they stop moving), or maybe they're plants for and/or are a secondary influence.
    CastorTroy wrote:
    Wasn't Wanda just talking about her brother before he appeared? Similar to how Agnes just happened to call over with a doghouse last week. Was said earlier in that episode how she always turns up with just what they need.

    The doghouse I believe was directly Wanda, and it was implied she causes that. Her brother seemed a complete shock to her, and it doesn't seem that she actually had any (at least conscious) control over that.
    CastorTroy wrote:
    Fr the frozen people, I was wondering how they were all dressed for Halloween. It was like they were all put into position to move when told.

    Either because they were manifested like that, or because they, like Vision, weren't given anything else to wear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,536 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    So next episode we're probably getting the mockumentary style from Modern Family or can anyone think of a show that came out before that but after Malcom in the Middle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Varik wrote: »
    So next episode we're probably getting the mockumentary style from Modern Family or can anyone think of a show that came out before that but after Malcom in the Middle.

    I think this might be the end of the sitcom format. There's nowhere to really go with it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,579 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I think this might be the end of the sitcom format. There's nowhere to really go with it now.

    Hope so

    I'm enjoying it more now it's all out of the way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    I think this might be the end of the sitcom format. There's nowhere to really go with it now.

    Actually the modern family talking to the camera thing might drive a few things along.
    It would be a very handy way to break the 4th wall.


  • Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    salmocab wrote: »
    Actually the modern family talking to the camera thing might drive a few things along.
    It would be a very handy way to break the 4th wall.

    Yes, I agree. It’s also a fairly new style which defines the post Office age.

    They might get rid of it in a few episodes though. As a causal watcher of Marvel movies or enjoyed the cleverness of the sitcoms. The other world building doesn’t really interest me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭pah


    I'm pretty I've read all the posts here and no mention of the play on words that is the shows title?

    Good episode again this week, moving things along at a nice pace. I'm looking forward to each weeks episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭The Phantom Pain


    pah wrote: »
    I'm pretty I've read all the posts here and no mention of the play on words that is the shows title?

    What, you mean the idea that we're seeing the world through "Wanda's vision" or that it shares the same acronym with 'West View'? Likely nobody mentioned it because that's fairly obvious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    i'll be furious if it is.

    If they wanted a different looking QS, or Aaron Taylor Johnson simply wasnt available then cast someone else. ANYONE ELSE.

    To cast Fox version QS in the role, after Disney bought Fox, with people wondering how and when we will see X-Men in MCU - and for it to mean nothing... would be absolute BS.

    If it isn't linked to the Fox movies, there is litterarly no good reason for it to have been done. It would just be utterly mean-spirited.

    I think it would be brilliant tbh but I think they will reference it even if he isn't going to be the X QS.

    Another great episode, I'm still not sure what think about what's going on and who's controlling everything. I really hope it's not Wanda because they'll have a fair old time trying to redeem her after all this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,886 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    I'll be honest, I reckon a decent editor could make a coherent motion picture out of what we have seen so far without reshoots. This has been made into a series for the sake of getting 2 months worth of Disney+ subscriptions out of Marvel fans.
    I'm enjoying it, but I don't think it has rewatch value in this format.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,618 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Was the kids he referred to not the twins and the fact they seemed to come from nowhere as 10 year olds, or whatever age they are.

    Fr the frozen people, I was wondering how they were all dressed for Halloween. It was like they were all put into position to move when told.

    That was my take, that the characters are in stasis when they are not needed for the "scene". Wanda had set up an elaborate trick or treat route, but visions "neighbourhood watch" meant the scene never happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,657 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    flazio wrote: »
    I'll be honest, I reckon a decent editor could make a coherent motion picture out of what we have seen so far without reshoots. This has been made into a series for the sake of getting 2 months worth of Disney+ subscriptions out of Marvel fans.
    I'm enjoying it, but I don't think it has rewatch value in this format.

    I dunno, I could see some hardcore marvel fans giving the show a rewatch in years to come as the next stage of the MCU films and tv progresses.

    Spoilering the below because it's movie theorising, just in case.
    Not sure how much of an MCU fan you are, but if you remember in the lead-up to Endgame there were countless recommendations on previous movies to watch and focus on, like Thor Dark World, Winter Soldier, etc. I can see similar happen down the line when Phase 4 or higher progresses and we head towards the next big Endgame moment, as this is really what will probably kick everything off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,547 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I'm wondering what happens between the sitcom episodes. Like is there a marathon on and we only see 1 episode of each decade? Or does it go on repeat? Does it just go off air?
    Darcy tuned in to the first episode we saw. What was happening in there before that?


  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I'm wondering what happens between the sitcom episodes. Like is there a marathon on and we only see 1 episode of each decade? Or does it go on repeat? Does it just go off air?
    Darcy tuned in to the first episode we saw. What was happening in there before that?

    Ya it really wouldn't be bad explaining that although I'm not sure if all of this may be happening in rapid succession. Are we actually sure multiple days have passed? It anyways seems to be night in the real world iirc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,301 ✭✭✭✭klose


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I'm wondering what happens between the sitcom episodes. Like is there a marathon on and we only see 1 episode of each decade? Or does it go on repeat? Does it just go off air?
    Darcy tuned in to the first episode we saw. What was happening in there before that?

    Think it was said they people monitoring the show watch it the whole time and there's multiple episodes we aren't seeing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    klose wrote: »
    Think it was said they people monitoring the show watch it the whole time and there's multiple episodes we aren't seeing?

    When Darcy first saw Monica in the show it was a clip from an episode we hadn't seen before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,886 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Is it likely that the people on the outskirts of Westville are starving to death because they can't move to feed themselves?

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Any ideas what the Yo-Magic ad is going to reference going forward as I can't place it from anything already inside the the MCU world like the previous ads.

    Edit: I'm guessing it is to do with the people inside the bubble not eating.

    Nicely dark if it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    flazio wrote: »
    Is it likely that the people on the outskirts of Westville are starving to death because they can't move to feed themselves?

    thats a bit too grim for Disney


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,657 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    thats a bit too grim for Disney

    Especially when you consider where all the other kids were before Halloween :eek:

    Were they all just stuck in stasis somewhere, or in their beds like Peter suggested the whole time? I can't imagine she manufactured them all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    flazio wrote: »
    Is it likely that the people on the outskirts of Westville are starving to death because they can't move to feed themselves?

    I had to go back and rewind because I wasn’t sure if this was the real skeleton of a child who had died and decayed or a costume. I actually think it’s just a decoration because I don’t think even if someone had died they would have decayed that quickly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Any ideas what the Yo-Magic ad is going to reference going forward as I can't place it from anything already inside the the MCU world like the previous ads.

    Edit: I'm guessing it is to do with the people inside the bubble not eating.

    Nicely dark if it is.

    I took the yomagic thing as the kid couldn't break the seal so he died , so the people inside can't break the seal so they're going to die


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