Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

caveat emptor wrote: »

Don't be such a doom monger raind. Due to the strictest Lockdown in the world ever there were only 2066 cases of Gonorrhoea (the clap) in 2020. That's down 27% vs 2019 (2812)

It's not all bad news. You've less chance of the clap this year which is great news. :pac:

That's an outrageous number. Yuck. We should have gone into lockdown years ago.

May the 23 people who died rest in peace

caveat emptor wrote: »

This can only be a good news story and an unintended upside of the public health measures.

It looks as though STDs are really in retreat due to covid. The only winner unfortunately is the covid really. STDs could be on the way out if lockdown continues on too long.

I thought we were shot of dengue fever a long time ago.

I've never been more fervently in favour of harsh lockdowns.
We can do it lads!

Clap for the clap!

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Personally, I think Holohan and Co. are engaged in antiviral extremism.

By all means, be vigilant and sensible, but there comes a point when this tips over into the realm of antiviral extremism. Where every action is pointed toward one single goal - namely, reduction of viral transmission.

European countries demonstrated last summer that you can ease restrictions, be reasonably responsible, and get on with things. Ireland proved that even with summer restrictions, you can still end up with a winter wave - often far worse.

Antiviral extremism must be countered head on.

We cannot let ourselves enter Summer 2021 under Level 5 or Level-5-light restrictions.

Enough is enough.

Look, I'll give you another chance. Rewrite this again, but instead of using the phrase "Antiviral extremism", use literally anything else instead because that would be better.

I promise I'll give it another go, but at the moment I keep snorting every time I read Antiviral extremism

They way I see it is the longer and harsher the restrictions the more people will burst forth and go mad once liftedl. If this goes on until April people will be so eager to meet it will lead to disaster

They need to to this in a measured fashion so that people are not wound up in tension
Drop the 5 km nonsense and all own county travel or at least 20 kms

First click and collect , then retail that are not in shopping centres and have an on street door . Then cafes with outdoor seating .
Allow people meet outdoors in parks etc
Then allow meet in gardens . Allow two families or friends to form a bubble and meet up .
Then restaurants with on street doors and not in shopping centres .
Slowely , steadily giving people a little at a time so we can look forward and stay careful

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I'm pretty sure woodies opened in June, Niall.

I hope you weren't sitting there all summer, idle, without any paint and completely misinformed.

Summer starts in May though Tony. I'm not sure do you know this or not. Woodies was not open the start of summer.

jackboy wrote: »

The things you mention here do not significantly cause the virus to spread. The spike at Christmas was mainly down to house parties and other organised piss ups. We could reduce the numbers just as quick and sustain it with far less restrictions if we just enforce a small few key ones.

Yes and they happened because we went from lockdown to opening retail and restaurants and meeting family all in one fell swoop . It needs to be done in a measured slow way so to release tension and not make people go wild

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that's close enough to the plan.

The problem is that they're struggling to give timelines because we haven't dealt with this new variant before. I think they're right too, within this "living with the virus" framework.

We have to drive it down to a really manageable level or we risk our summer and the effectiveness of the vaccination program.

It's dreadful

Is this new variant actually proven to be more transmissible? I've heard all these claims in the media numerous times but what study did the figure of up to 70% come from?

TonyMaloney wrote: »

That's a very pedantic point, Niall.

Irish summer typically starts in mid June and ends by early July.
Don't say it doesn't. It does.

May was a belter last year, it was roasting.

niallo27 wrote: »

May was a belter last year, it was roasting.

May was glorious last year . If only May behaved like that every year we could look forward to it

iamwhoiam wrote: »

But how do we know its pretty close to the plan ? They tell us nothing except it will last till April or May and wind people up no end with the lack of some sort of of plan

We don't. Not in that sort of detail.
We know they're planning a "gradual reopening of the economy". And what you outlined previously sounded like a very plausible priority list.
We just have no idea of when any of it might happen.

Other than schools and construction of course. We're dipping our toes in the water with those two first. If they go well, then things could move a bit faster than what we're all currently trying to come to terms with.

I have to say I'm very worried about how it will go, but then I'm a bit like that. You?

TonyMaloney wrote: »

We don't. Not in that sort of detail.
We know they're planning a "gradual reopening of the economy". And what you outlined previously sounded like a very plausible priority list.
We just have no idea of when any of it might happen.

Other than schools and construction of course. We're dipping our toes in the water with those two first. If they go well, then things could move a bit faster than what we're all currently trying to come to terms with.

I have to say I'm very worried about how it will go, but then I'm a bit like that. You?

I am more worried that they keep people lockdowned for too long and it will be like a pressure cooker exploding . They made that mistake at Christmas and am worried they will do it again
Personally speaking I have done everything right since last March and tried my absolute best to stay within restrictions . But if the 5kms is not lifted by March the 5th I am throwing in that towel and going beyond it to the beach