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Clarice - CBS - US Pace (**Spoilers**)

  • 08-12-2020 7:18pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭


    Starts February 11th

    First look at Clarice
    “Clarice” is a deep dive into the untold personal story of FBI Agent Clarice Starling as she returns to the field in 1993, one year after the events of “The Silence of the Lambs.” Brilliant and vulnerable, Clarice’s bravery gives her an inner light that draws monsters and madmen to her. However, her complex psychological makeup that comes from a challenging childhood empowers her to begin to find her voice while working in a man’s world, as well as escape the family secrets that have haunted her throughout her life.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Youtube trailer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,028 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    From Wikipedia:
    Due to complicated rights issues of franchise characters between Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and Dino de Laurentiis Company, the series cannot feature or make reference to Hannibal Lecter.
    G'luck! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    "The silence is over"? So she's hearing the lambs again? Or just whoever came up with that taking missed the point?

    I'm assuming the scenes from Silence in that trailer are reshot, maybe as flashbacks.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Due to the same complications, the excellent 'Hannibal' TV show couldn't feature Clarice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,427 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    ixoy wrote: »
    Due to the same complications, the excellent 'Hannibal' TV show couldn't feature Clarice.

    It was set well befofe her time in any event o it didn't need her.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Marcusm wrote: »
    It was set well befofe her time in any event o it didn't need her.
    S4 would have planned as being the events of 'Silence of the Lambs' given they covered 'Red Dragon'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    First reviews are saying its very bland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,302 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    First reviews are saying its very bland.
    Looks a bit mixed yeah but some positive ones including in Variety.
    Looks worth watching
    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/clarice/s01


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Very average pilot episode for me.

    Well it's set in 1993 so it's set about two years after the film.

    Mad that they can't say the name Lecter due to copyright since Lecter is so important in creating Clarice and making her the investigator she is.

    The accent is annoying.

    I need some quid pro quo for my continued viewing like a better interesting script and not a paint by numbers one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    I WANT I WANT I WANT ! Who do I have to f*ck to be able to see this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭corkie


    Very average pilot episode for me.

    Well it's set in 1993 so it's set about two years after the film.


    The accent is annoying.

    Hopefully the phase out the 'Jodie Foster ~ Clarice' accent/lisp in due course.

    Edit 2: -

    "There are some things about Clarice’s history that cannot be undone.

    One is the character’s West Virginia dialect — something Dr. Lecter notes in Lambs that she’s “tried so desperately to shed.” Breeds said she had no idea what it meant when her audition script had the note “with a hint of Appalachia,” and her husband, actor Luke Mitchell, originally advised her to skip it and just do an American accent."


    Looks like it is scripted, so stuck with it?

    We known who she is and the background of SOTL, so doesn't need this reinforcement

    Creators Alex Kurtzman(creator) Jenny Lumet(creator)

    Bad Robot production


    Edit 1: -

    "CBS did find room in its soul for the gleefully irreverent Evil. And if you're not aiming to be transgressively weird with a Silence of the Lambs sequel — well, why bother? Clarice's other co-creator is Alex Kurtzman, a practiced IP hack known for Transformers, various Star Treks, a failed Mummy, and the worst Spider-Man. That's a lot of money made off other people's originality. Can't we institute some kind of limit on this stuff, like maybe a person can only work in four pre-existing universes per decade? His participation makes Clarice feel even more like a dastardly act of franchise capitalism. I'd believe you if you told me Kurtzman was planning a Buffalo Bill prequel series, or a throwback procedural where Clarice Starling's dad solves '60s crime."


    Clarice doesn't have any brains worth chewing: Review
    The Silence of the Lambs becomes another bland procedural.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes


    I thought that was quite weak, more like a generic police procedural with references to Silence of the Lambs. I'll give it another couple of episodes to see if it improves but I'm not hopeful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I'm not keen on the lead actress


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    Lads how are you all able to watch this ? I tried signing up to the CBS streaming service but it's only available to U.S. residents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭corkie


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I'm not keen on the lead actress




    Everlong1 wrote: »
    Lads how are you all able to watch this ? I tried signing up to the CBS streaming service but it's only available to U.S. residents.

    By non legitimate means, that can't be discussed on Boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Watching now. The lead actress reminds me of Robin Tunney


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 923 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    corkie wrote: »






    By non legitimate means, that can't be discussed on Boards.

    Woe is poor old law abiding me. :mad: I'll just have to wait till it turns up on Netflix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,669 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Decent enough pilot (considering some of the atrocities coming out recently) but if its just gonna be murder of the week then no thanks - they are a dime a dozen at the mo

    Not sure if the theme of the season is this headache company...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Yeah the whole thing about Clarice being this great BAU agent after solving 1 case is going to be annoying. And the creepy serial killers have been done in Criminal Minds


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    It’s basically another slick CBS crime show that fits into there family of cop, action, detective, court shows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,533 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I liked this actually. I did feel like Rebecca Breeds was doing a Jodie Foster impersonation, but I'm OK with that.

    I thought it was stylish enough too. A cut above the usual procedurals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    Everlong1 wrote: »
    I WANT I WANT I WANT ! Who do I have to f*ck to be able to see this?

    A US iTunes account

    I just watched the first episode.

    It was good. I’m not “hooked” yet but I want to see more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    Very average pilot episode for me.

    Well it's set in 1993 so it's set about two years after the film.

    Mad that they can't say the name Lecter due to copyright since Lecter is so important in creating Clarice and making her the investigator she is.

    The accent is annoying.

    I need some quid pro quo for my continued viewing like a better interesting script and not a paint by numbers one.

    What is annoying about the accent?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Need a Username


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Decent enough pilot (considering some of the atrocities coming out recently) but if its just gonna be murder of the week then no thanks - they are a dime a dozen at the mo

    Not sure if the theme of the season is this headache company...?

    The final few minutes did seem to be setting up the investigation into the pharmaceutical company as being the primary story arc but the purpose of the VICAP task force is catching violent crimes and serial killers.

    Unless the company repeatedly hires killers to murder people that investigation is out of Clarice’s hands.

    I’m interested in seeing more of Catherine go even more bat**** crazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Ok episode 2 was better than the pilot and there is enough there for me to go back for episode 3 however she needs to drop the accent.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    What is annoying about the accent?
    It's really grating for being forced.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    It’s basically another slick CBS crime show that fits into there family of cop, action, detective, court shows.

    You say that like you think it's a bad thing ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,669 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Episode 2 was definitely better - will keep watching, thought there was a touch of trying the stylistic approach of Hannibal in the episode


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,551 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    it's no Hannibal and it can't have a killer of the week plotline, we need an arc
    but it has promise and I'll give the requisite number of episodes before scrapping it before it gets ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Starting to find it's feet now and the season arc moving along at a good pace.

    Also doing a nice job at showing the PTSD effects from the Buffalo Bill case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Another enjoyable episode this will.



    I wasn't expecting Rodney McKay to show up I don't think I've seen him in anything since Stargate Atlantis ended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭corkie


    Another enjoyable episode this will.



    I wasn't expecting Rodney McKay to show up I don't think I've seen him in anything since Stargate Atlantis ended.

    He was also in 'Dark Matter'. Only watch 15mins of episode, need to watch the rest latter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    As soon as she said she was a twin, I expected the switch

    I forgot this was set in 1993.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭corkie


    Taking a break now until 6th May.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Diceicle


    I've alway thought this to be an alright show. Like a grittier 'Special Victims Unit', but its not The Wire by any means.
    Like alot of modern mid-level US shows, they've flirted with racial / wokishness, but for the most part I thought they were managing to resist their urges to shoehorn those topics into the story (ala The Good Fight).

    Well, whoever was keeping the writers in line must have taken the week off as we went full-woke this week.

    It seems every non-white officer in the FBI is being discriminated against (its a wonder they got the job at all in that case). :rolleyes:
    And now we have a trans character -
    giving Clarice grief for solving the Buffalo Bill murder... wtf? :rolleyes:

    Not sure if its a show I'll retrun to next week if this is the direction they're taking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Not sure what happened with Kal Penn's character. He seems to only turn up occasionally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,283 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    38 posts the whole season.

    While it did feel a wee bit rushed compared to the pacing of previous episodes, it was a good (series?) finale.

    The lack of any real cliffhanger is good as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,533 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I thought the finale was very good. Decent season overall, but not fantastic.

    Glad it's a self contained story because it's not likely to come back. It was the lowest rated show on CBS this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,349 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes


    I thought it ended well, but the season as a whole was a bit of a chore to get through at times for me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Overall a weak enough show that was handcuffed from the beginning with not being able to mention Lecter.

    You can have a Lecter show without mentioning Starling, However Starling the FBI agent was influenced so much by Lecter that not being able to mention him at all hurts the character growth of Starling in the series.


    Also her accent was just so off putting I just couldn't get past it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,015 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Looks like it won't be returning for season 2
    https://www.slashfilm.com/clarice-ending-one-season-cbs/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,669 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Looks like it won't be returning for season 2
    https://www.slashfilm.com/clarice-ending-one-season-cbs/

    It was ok for one season and no cliffhangers but it wasn't a Hannibal and likely people would have compared it to that
    It just fizzled as it went on and is anybody that interested in what Clarice is up to


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    It starts on UKTV’s Alibi channel on Monday December 27th at 9pm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭corkie


    ^^^ Bump that is next Monday.



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