Clarice - CBS - US Pace (**Spoilers**)

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Starts February 11th

First look at Clarice

“Clarice” is a deep dive into the untold personal story of FBI Agent Clarice Starling as she returns to the field in 1993, one year after the events of “The Silence of the Lambs.” Brilliant and vulnerable, Clarice’s bravery gives her an inner light that draws monsters and madmen to her. However, her complex psychological makeup that comes from a challenging childhood empowers her to begin to find her voice while working in a man’s world, as well as escape the family secrets that have haunted her throughout her life.

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https://twitter.com/ClariceCBS/status/1348452088859254785?s=20

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Youtube trailer

Basq

From Wikipedia:

Due to complicated rights issues of franchise characters between Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and Dino de Laurentiis Company, the series cannot feature or make reference to Hannibal Lecter.

G'luck! :eek:

CastorTroy

"The silence is over"? So she's hearing the lambs again? Or just whoever came up with that taking missed the point?

I'm assuming the scenes from Silence in that trailer are reshot, maybe as flashbacks.

ixoy

Due to the same complications, the excellent 'Hannibal' TV show couldn't feature Clarice.

Marcusm

ixoy wrote: »

Due to the same complications, the excellent 'Hannibal' TV show couldn't feature Clarice.

It was set well befofe her time in any event o it didn't need her.

ixoy

Marcusm wrote: »

It was set well befofe her time in any event o it didn't need her.

S4 would have planned as being the events of 'Silence of the Lambs' given they covered 'Red Dragon'.

Agent Coulson

First reviews are saying its very bland.

gmisk

Agent Coulson wrote: »

First reviews are saying its very bland.

Looks a bit mixed yeah but some positive ones including in Variety.
Looks worth watching
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/clarice/s01

Agent Coulson

Very average pilot episode for me.

Well it's set in 1993 so it's set about two years after the film.

Mad that they can't say the name Lecter due to copyright since Lecter is so important in creating Clarice and making her the investigator she is.

The accent is annoying.

I need some quid pro quo for my continued viewing like a better interesting script and not a paint by numbers one.

Everlong1

I WANT I WANT I WANT ! Who do I have to f*ck to be able to see this?

corkie

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Very average pilot episode for me.

Well it's set in 1993 so it's set about two years after the film.


The accent is annoying.

Hopefully the phase out the 'Jodie Foster ~ Clarice' accent/lisp in due course.

Edit 2: -

"There are some things about Clarice’s history that cannot be undone.

One is the character’s West Virginia dialect — something Dr. Lecter notes in Lambs that she’s “tried so desperately to shed.” Breeds said she had no idea what it meant when her audition script had the note “with a hint of Appalachia,” and her husband, actor Luke Mitchell, originally advised her to skip it and just do an American accent."

Looks like it is scripted, so stuck with it?

We known who she is and the background of SOTL, so doesn't need this reinforcement

Creators Alex Kurtzman(creator) Jenny Lumet(creator)

Bad Robot production


Edit 1: -

"CBS did find room in its soul for the gleefully irreverent Evil. And if you're not aiming to be transgressively weird with a Silence of the Lambs sequel — well, why bother? Clarice's other co-creator is Alex Kurtzman, a practiced IP hack known for Transformers, various Star Treks, a failed Mummy, and the worst Spider-Man. That's a lot of money made off other people's originality. Can't we institute some kind of limit on this stuff, like maybe a person can only work in four pre-existing universes per decade? His participation makes Clarice feel even more like a dastardly act of franchise capitalism. I'd believe you if you told me Kurtzman was planning a Buffalo Bill prequel series, or a throwback procedural where Clarice Starling's dad solves '60s crime."


Clarice doesn't have any brains worth chewing: Review
The Silence of the Lambs becomes another bland procedural.

Frank Grimes

I thought that was quite weak, more like a generic police procedural with references to Silence of the Lambs. I'll give it another couple of episodes to see if it improves but I'm not hopeful.

JP Liz V1

I'm not keen on the lead actress

Everlong1

Lads how are you all able to watch this ? I tried signing up to the CBS streaming service but it's only available to U.S. residents.

corkie

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I'm not keen on the lead actress

Everlong1 wrote: »

Lads how are you all able to watch this ? I tried signing up to the CBS streaming service but it's only available to U.S. residents.

By non legitimate means, that can't be discussed on Boards.

CastorTroy

Watching now. The lead actress reminds me of Robin Tunney

Everlong1

corkie wrote: »

By non legitimate means, that can't be discussed on Boards.

Woe is poor old law abiding me. :mad: I'll just have to wait till it turns up on Netflix.

fritzelly

Decent enough pilot (considering some of the atrocities coming out recently) but if its just gonna be murder of the week then no thanks - they are a dime a dozen at the mo

Not sure if the theme of the season is this headache company...?

CastorTroy

Yeah the whole thing about Clarice being this great BAU agent after solving 1 case is going to be annoying. And the creepy serial killers have been done in Criminal Minds

Agent Coulson

It’s basically another slick CBS crime show that fits into there family of cop, action, detective, court shows.

Mr E

I liked this actually. I did feel like Rebecca Breeds was doing a Jodie Foster impersonation, but I'm OK with that.

I thought it was stylish enough too. A cut above the usual procedurals.

Need a Username

Everlong1 wrote: »

I WANT I WANT I WANT ! Who do I have to f*ck to be able to see this?

A US iTunes account

I just watched the first episode.

It was good. I’m not “hooked” yet but I want to see more.

Need a Username

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Very average pilot episode for me.

Well it's set in 1993 so it's set about two years after the film.

Mad that they can't say the name Lecter due to copyright since Lecter is so important in creating Clarice and making her the investigator she is.

The accent is annoying.

I need some quid pro quo for my continued viewing like a better interesting script and not a paint by numbers one.

What is annoying about the accent?

Need a Username

fritzelly wrote: »

Decent enough pilot (considering some of the atrocities coming out recently) but if its just gonna be murder of the week then no thanks - they are a dime a dozen at the mo

Not sure if the theme of the season is this headache company...?

The final few minutes did seem to be setting up the investigation into the pharmaceutical company as being the primary story arc but the purpose of the VICAP task force is catching violent crimes and serial killers.

Unless the company repeatedly hires killers to murder people that investigation is out of Clarice’s hands.

I’m interested in seeing more of Catherine go even more bat**** crazy.

Agent Coulson

Ok episode 2 was better than the pilot and there is enough there for me to go back for episode 3 however she needs to drop the accent.

Wibbs

Need a Username wrote: »

What is annoying about the accent?

It's really grating for being forced.

GerardKeating

Agent Coulson wrote: »

It’s basically another slick CBS crime show that fits into there family of cop, action, detective, court shows.

You say that like you think it's a bad thing

fritzelly

Episode 2 was definitely better - will keep watching, thought there was a touch of trying the stylistic approach of Hannibal in the episode

Skerries

it's no Hannibal and it can't have a killer of the week plotline, we need an arc
but it has promise and I'll give the requisite number of episodes before scrapping it before it gets ****

Agent Coulson

Starting to find it's feet now and the season arc moving along at a good pace.

Also doing a nice job at showing the PTSD effects from the Buffalo Bill case

Agent Coulson

Another enjoyable episode this will.



I wasn't expecting Rodney McKay to show up I don't think I've seen him in anything since Stargate Atlantis ended.

corkie

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Another enjoyable episode this will.



I wasn't expecting Rodney McKay to show up I don't think I've seen him in anything since Stargate Atlantis ended.

He was also in 'Dark Matter'. Only watch 15mins of episode, need to watch the rest latter.

CastorTroy

As soon as she said she was a twin, I expected the switch

I forgot this was set in 1993.

corkie

Taking a break now until 6th May.

Diceicle

I've alway thought this to be an alright show. Like a grittier 'Special Victims Unit', but its not The Wire by any means.
Like alot of modern mid-level US shows, they've flirted with racial / wokishness, but for the most part I thought they were managing to resist their urges to shoehorn those topics into the story (ala The Good Fight).

Well, whoever was keeping the writers in line must have taken the week off as we went full-woke this week.

It seems every non-white officer in the FBI is being discriminated against (its a wonder they got the job at all in that case). :rolleyes:
And now we have a trans character -

giving Clarice grief for solving the Buffalo Bill murder... wtf? :rolleyes:

Not sure if its a show I'll retrun to next week if this is the direction they're taking.

CastorTroy

Not sure what happened with Kal Penn's character. He seems to only turn up occasionally.

CastorTroy

38 posts the whole season.

While it did feel a wee bit rushed compared to the pacing of previous episodes, it was a good (series?) finale.

The lack of any real cliffhanger is good as well.

Mr E

I thought the finale was very good. Decent season overall, but not fantastic.

Glad it's a self contained story because it's not likely to come back. It was the lowest rated show on CBS this season.

Frank Grimes

I thought it ended well, but the season as a whole was a bit of a chore to get through at times for me.

Agent Coulson

Overall a weak enough show that was handcuffed from the beginning with not being able to mention Lecter.

You can have a Lecter show without mentioning Starling, However Starling the FBI agent was influenced so much by Lecter that not being able to mention him at all hurts the character growth of Starling in the series.


Also her accent was just so off putting I just couldn't get past it.

Snake Plisken

Looks like it won't be returning for season 2
https://www.slashfilm.com/clarice-ending-one-season-cbs/

fritzelly

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Looks like it won't be returning for season 2
https://www.slashfilm.com/clarice-ending-one-season-cbs/

It was ok for one season and no cliffhangers but it wasn't a Hannibal and likely people would have compared it to that
It just fizzled as it went on and is anybody that interested in what Clarice is up to

JP Liz V1

It starts on UKTV’s Alibi channel on Monday December 27th at 9pm

corkie

^^^ Bump that is next Monday.