Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

BiggJim wrote: »

Funny enough I've heard the total opposite. Also a once in a lifetime opportunity for many parents to spend quality time with their children during their formative years. I know if I had children I'd appreciate getting to spend so much time with them.

Hahaha. You're that guy in the room who has an image in his head of how he would like things to be and how he thinks things should be, but has completely forgotten to incorporate any amount of reality. Quality time. Hahaha. Disney has a lot to answer to here. Too many people like this in the world today, making good parents think they're inadequate.

Come back to us when you're changing pissy sheets for the 10th night in a row while your youngest has colic. Tell us all about the quality time you're looking forward to the following day. Hahaha

TP_CM wrote: »

Hahaha. You're that guy in the room who has an image in his head of how he would like things to be and how he thinks things should be, but has completely forgotten to incorporate any amount of reality. Quality time. Hahaha. Disney has a lot to answer to here. Too many people like this in the world today, making good parents think they're inadequate.

Come back to us when you're changing pissy sheets for the 10th night in a row while your youngest has colic. Tell us all about the quality time you're looking forward to the following day. Hahaha

Pay no attention, clearly completely clueless of the reality with airy fairy quality time nonsense comments.

Some days I consider it a job well done for making it through the day having achieved anything at all with everyone's wellbeing intact.

In your case it might be dry clean sheets, but I'll take whatever little wins we can!

Quality time comments from someone who probably has zero experience of parenting and thinks families are living in a fairytale, romanticising a period that most families would rather consign to history.

Warbeastrior wrote: »

Disagree. I know people that are absolutely loving having the children at home as they simply adore the quality time.
It doesn't mean that every parent feels that way and it doesn't mean you're not a good parent for feeling that way but it's simply incorrect to claim its nonsense.

They are probably stay at home parents, I can't say I know anyone who is trying to hold down a job, or going out to work all day and then homeschooling is enjoying it at all, quite the opposite.

Quality time is a fallacy for a lot of working parents right now.

But there are a few 'stay home stay safe' mantra folk who seem to relish the lockdown, any that I know haven't had a job in at least a decade and have no idea of what it's like to try to find a balance (never mind the fact that we can't all stay home).

That's just my observation, its ridiculous stress for people who are trying to balance it all. The very idea of quality time is nonsense for many families unfortunately.

Yes agree. It is far easier for a parent who was not working outside of the home, to embrace this time with their kids. Its extremely challenging where both parents are online working everyday in roles where their output is measured by key strokes on their laptops, and attendance on countless video calls.

My company are already seeing burnout, sick leave, longer term absence.

Everyone needs a break now including all teachers. But we don't need those 2 weeks in April for Easter if schools are back. The lack of agility on DES pisses me off.




quote="Locotastic;116239632"]They are probably stay at home parents, I can't say I know anyone who is trying to hold down a job, or going out to work all day and then homeschooling is enjoying it at all, quite the opposite.

Quality time is a fallacy for a lot of working parents right now.

But there are a few 'stay home stay safe' mantra folk who seem to relish the lockdown, any that I know haven't had a job in at least a decade and have no idea of what it's like to try to find a balance (never mind the fact that we can't all stay home).

That's just my observation, its ridiculous stress for people who are trying to balance it all. The very idea of quality time is nonsense for many families unfortunately.[/quote]

SusanC10 wrote: »

What are everyone's thoughts at the stage on a realistic timeframe for a return to in-person for all Students ?
After Easter Break - April 12th ?

I thought they are going back over a 'phased' 3 week period from start of March?

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Who knows. At this stage it is obvious that the government are aware of information which isn't the public domain such is the about turn since the start of the year. Remember those days when poor aul Norma had a headache such was her daily insistence that schools were "safe places".

I think that you must be right.
They will probably see how it goes with the Special Classes starting today.
Are they all on 50% attendance?

SusanC10 wrote: »

I think that you must be right.
They will probably see how it goes with the Special Classes starting today.
Are they all on 50% attendance?

Special schools are at 50% attendance, special classes in mainstream will be back at full attendance from 22nd February.

News on Leaving Cert next week and no foreign holidays for 2021 due to varients of concern according to Mícheál Martin on Morning Ireland.

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

The LC news has been coming "next week" for quite some time!!

Whatever is announced, there is gonna be a sizeable amount who will be giving out regardless. No win situation for all concerned.

They're certainly taking their time. Any news wud be welcome at this stage.

LCs in limbo regarding orals, practicals etc as they're just round the corner. Very unfair on them as they try to plan around their own study.


Edit. Easter holidays etc discussed here as part of return. Can't remember which poster keeps denying the varients have changed everything but MM mentions it here again

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

They're certainly taking their time. Any news wud be welcome at this stage.

LCs in limbo regarding orals, practicals etc as they're just round the corner. Very unfair on them as they try to plan around their own study.


Edit. Easter holidays etc discussed here as part of return. Can't remember which poster keeps denying the varients have changed everything but MM mentions it here again

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1359780664191692800?s=09

Think that poster has what could be described as a 'fringe' view of things.

MM and LV have both referred to variants changing things in interviews over the past number of days. Constant state of flux with regards to goalposts being moved.

Locotastic wrote: »

Basic virus behaviour, I'm sure there must be a biology teacher here somewhere who can confirm that this is normal for a virus.

Think everyone aware it's what a virus does.

What's being denied is it has changed the landscape in the covid story.

Locotastic wrote: »

How exactly is it a fringe view? Not everybody is running scared because of 'variants', this is what viruses do it's nothing sinister and should be expected.

Basic virus behaviour, I'm sure there must be a biology teacher here somewhere who can confirm that this is normal for a virus.

yes viruses change, it is "normal behaviour" and not inherently sinister, that doesn't make it safe and okay though, the virus could mutate and become far worse or the opposite, are you saying we should gamble on it doing the latter and "not run scared"

Lillyfae wrote: »

There are many more than 2 types on this thread. There are the ones who would give the vaccination to not at risk teachers ahead of frontline workers. There are the ones who attack anyone who says their children's teachers are not up to scratch. There are the ones who answer every issue with "WHAT CLASS". There are the ones who can't accept an apology from someone who has owned up to a mistake. There are the ones who refer to the constitution stating parents are the primary educators, and blaming parents themselves for having had children in the first place. There are the ones who refer to children "ruling the roost" and "gaming the system".

The optics of this thread are not great sometimes. You'd wonder why some became teachers at all when they don't seem to like children. Or principals. Or teaching.

You forgot those that live abroad but never miss an opportunity to knock Irish teachers. They claim to come from a family of teachers. Clearly they have little, or no, respect for the work their family members do.