Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings

Hellrazer · 09-02-2021 07:37PM

polesheep wrote: »

That thinking is why it will never happen.

That was a joke - I agree with you. The Irish populace has lost their will to question our leaders and will swallow anything that Nphet or the government advises them.

growleaves · 09-02-2021 07:41PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

That was a joke - I agree with you. The Irish populace has lost their will to question our leaders and will swallow anything that Nphet or the government advises them.

If people think it is a legitimate function of government that you can be barred from seeing your own family for months or years at a time, there are no words.

A medieval king or Roman emperor who tried that would have just been laughed at.

A few white coats and some blather-words like 'consensus' are all it takes apparently.

retro:electro · 09-02-2021 07:43PM

The next few months are going to be extremely mentally taxing.

polesheep · 09-02-2021 07:45PM

retro:electro wrote: »

The next few months are going to be extremely mentally taxing.

And the next ten years are going to be extremely financially taxing.

polesheep · 09-02-2021 07:46PM

growleaves wrote: »

If people think it is a legitimate function of government that you can be barred from seeing your own family for months or years at a time, there are no words.

A medieval king or Roman emperor who tried that would have just been laughed at.

A few white coats and some blather-words like 'consensus' are all it takes apparently.

Are people really adhering to this? I know I'm not and from what I can see neither are my neighbours.

SnuggyBear · 09-02-2021 07:48PM

Could we get a bloody number on where case and vaccinations need to be for certain things to open up. Is that too much to ask after a year?

Morries Wigs · 09-02-2021 07:51PM

polesheep wrote: »

Are people really adhering to this? I know I'm not and from what I can see neither are my neighbours.

after cases went nuts in january I can tell you most people are going along with it from what ive seen and know-people have been conditioned into it the pavlov dog experiment springs to mind

SnuggyBear · 09-02-2021 07:53PM

Morries Wigs wrote: »

after cases went nuts in january I can tell you most people are going along with it from what ive seen and know-people have been conditioned into it the pavlov dog experiment springs to mind

Everyone I know is seeing family just not having big gatherings.

Morries Wigs · 09-02-2021 07:56PM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Everyone I know is seeing family just not having big gatherings.

maybe thats why we are where we are just a thought

SnuggyBear · 09-02-2021 07:59PM

Morries Wigs wrote: »

maybe thats why we are where we are just a thought

You are not going to stop most people from seeing family. People will make their own risk assessment.

Hellrazer · 09-02-2021 07:59PM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Could we get a bloody number on where case and vaccinations need to be for certain things to open up. Is that too much to ask after a year?

When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius

That's when we are opening back up again.

showpony1 · 09-02-2021 07:59PM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Could we get a bloody number on where case and vaccinations need to be for certain things to open up. Is that too much to ask after a year?

no because once we get to low cases we can't let our work go to waste and remain vigilant.

AlekSmart · 09-02-2021 08:00PM

kieran26 wrote: »

Interesting,

I was stopped by a Garda at a checkpoint on Saturday evening and was told i couldn't go to get a takeaway in the town 10km from our village because getting a takeaway wasn't essential.
I questioned him on it and said surely getting food is esential he insisted it wasn't and that i should turn around. I wouldn't mind if i was taking the piss but i think i was being reasonable.
I have questioned it with the Superintendent but haven't received a response yet.

Seems to me Guardi don't all know what they are enforcing and a heavy handered ham fisted approach will only lead to resentment an lead to more lack of compliance.

You may have hit the bullseye here for sure !

It does appear that Gardaí are widely variant in their attitude to questioning ?

Perhaps you could send the Superintendent this clip and ask for his comments on Garda policy in cases such as yours...If it matters ?

https://www.facebook.com/100787891843724/videos/431422881384022

Morries Wigs · 09-02-2021 08:01PM

SnuggyBear wrote: »

You are not going to stop most people from seeing family. People will make their own risk assessment.

you are if some of the family live in different locations over 5km or in different parts of ireland

SnuggyBear · 09-02-2021 08:01PM

showpony1 wrote: »

no because once we get to low cases we can't let our work go to waste and remain vigilant.

I've been vigilant for nearly a year. I want to know when I can work again. Seriously is that too much to ask?

Hellrazer · 09-02-2021 08:04PM

showpony1 wrote: »

no because once we get to low cases we can't let our work go to waste and remain vigilant.

And on and on and on and on - there will always be some excuse to keep us compliant.

Even if the vaccine brings cases to zero and there are zero infections this lot are so cautious that they will keep us in lockdown "just in case" there is a new variant or some other bull**** like that and you know something? Us idiots will go along with it.

FintanMcluskey · 09-02-2021 08:07PM

copeyhagen wrote: »

serious question, wtf happens when all these vulnerable people are dead. not being a prick, but is it possible that could happen?

It is possible .

85 is 5 years beyond the life expectancy for a gentleman in Ireland

St.Spodo · 09-02-2021 08:10PM

We have spent so much time debating the zero covid strategy, because its proponents are relatively transparent about its benefits, the level of sacrifice it would take to get there, the medium term cost (international travel) and so on. One thing I have found frustrating is that there has been no critical assessment of whatever alternative the government is proposing and there has been little political urgency to demand that they explain clearly the costs, benefits and ultimate objectives of their plan to deal with covid-19. This would allow us to weigh what we are doing against the alternative strategies.

allaboutt · 09-02-2021 08:15PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

And on and on and on and on - there will always be some excuse to keep us compliant.

Even if the vaccine brings cases to zero and there are zero infections this lot are so cautious that they will keep us in lockdown "just in case" there is a new variant or some other bull**** like that and you know something? Us idiots will go along with it.

fair play to yeah. summed it up brillant..

absolute nonsense now.

robbiezero · 09-02-2021 08:17PM

polesheep wrote: »

Are people really adhering to this? I know I'm not and from what I can see neither are my neighbours.

I'm not anyway and know quite a few that aren't either.

normanoffside · 09-02-2021 08:26PM

Unbelievable, with the country going broke the Department of health is hiring yet more big wig managers breaking their own pay caps.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1359182387712839688

walus · 09-02-2021 08:27PM

polesheep wrote: »

And the next ten years are going to be extremely financially taxing.

Make it twenty I’d say.

Multipass · 09-02-2021 08:33PM

polesheep wrote: »

Are people really adhering to this? I know I'm not and from what I can see neither are my neighbours.

Nope, life’s too short

AlekSmart · 09-02-2021 08:46PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

In Germany there is a story running in Die Welt about spring last year and how the home office (Innenmninsterium) worked with the RKI and other institutes and scientists to produce a 'shock model' which was then communicated to the general population through the leading media.

Die Welt has 200 pages of internal communication between high ranking home office staff and those institutes that suggest a certain outcome of those models were desired as they were planning to prepare the population logistically and mentally for repressive measures.

Leading to a worst case shock scenario in which 57 million Germans get infected in a short space of time and 1 million would die.

In other words those worst case models weren't the best thing they knew at the time. And it was understandable that we needed to be careful. And what choice did the poor politicians have? No those worst case models were actually ordered by the government.

Couldnt make it up. Wasn't quite sure if I was allowed to post this here or of I should go to the CT forum.

The distinction between CT and Reality has long since been blurred.....:)

My choice is between....

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/29/business/elon-musk-nyt-podcast-covid-vaccine/index.html

or putting my money on Bill......N' Melinda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grv1RJkdyqI&ab_channel=Veritasium

So,forget your misgivings about posting.....if the New World Order can do it...so can YOU

!

AlekSmart · 09-02-2021 08:52PM

growleaves wrote: »

If people think it is a legitimate function of government that you can be barred from seeing your own family for months or years at a time, there are no words.

A medieval king or Roman emperor who tried that would have just been laughed at.

A few white coats and some blather-words like 'consensus' are all it takes apparently.

Them Germans have a term for it.....

Es zu Ihrer Sicherheit

Although it sounds much better in Hugo Boss mode.....:)

CalamariFritti · 09-02-2021 09:04PM

From the Guardian

Covid travel rule-breakers could face 10-year jail terms, says Hancock
Health secretary sets out new measures as Scottish government announces even stricter plans

Looks like across the water they're determined to go full mental.

walus · 09-02-2021 09:12PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

From the Guardian

Looks like across the water they're determined to go full mental.

Wait until they borrow those ideas here.

uli84 · 09-02-2021 09:18PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

From the Guardian

Looks like across the water they're determined to go full mental.

Wow, soon we will witness the return of capital punishment

Silentcorner · 09-02-2021 09:20PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

From the Guardian

Looks like across the water they're determined to go full mental.

I'd be very slow to believe anything published in The Guardian, their standards have fallen off a cliff in recent years, they are in the gutter with the tabloids, this could well be a good example!!

The Brits won't stand for this kind of police state...the government parties would be wiped out after a ton of riots/protests.

We have enough people here in Ireland that would encourage this kind of policy however, so I hope it doesn't gain traction.

suicide_circus · 09-02-2021 09:56PM

retro:electro wrote: »

The next few months are going to be extremely mentally taxing.

polesheep wrote: »

And the next ten years are going to be extremely financially taxing.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings